Down shiffting from 6 to 5?
 

Hello you guys new and first time post.

Is anyone having any type of problems when down shifting from 6 to 5? every time I down shift, it grinds. So far I have just said screw it and just gone from 6 to 4, but of course not over reving. can anyone chime in on this.

Thoughts, words. Thanks :thanks:

Have you been rev matching? I experience no problems downshifting from 6th to 5th.

Try using the pedal that is furthest on the left.

Scott

yes on the rev matching. engee

I skip gears often. Unless I need a constant connection to the drive line or want to engine brake efficiently, I'll jump from 6 to 4 to 2. I'll also jump up from 3 to 5, 2 to 4 to 6, whatever. That's the nice thing about an H-shifter, you can just put it where you want it and not need to run through them like an auto or sequential. As long as I'm not bogging the car going up hill or something, this works well on flat ground and down hills for daily driving.

Well if it grinds everytime something's wrong. Go to the dealer and make them drive it and they should fix it.

With the clutch fully in it should NEVER grid 6th to 5th regardless of whether you are rev matching or not.

Something is definitely wrong and I'd have the dealer look at it if it's happening all the time.

If it's intermittently doing it, is harder because things always seem to clear up when you go to show someone haha

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There's been a lot of arguments about screwing up the syncros when shifting like that. Usually the proper method to do it is like:

4th gear
clutch in
put it in 5th gear
put it in 6th gear
clutch out.

And supposedly that'll save your syncros.

I'm not a mechanic or anything. I've just read this multiple times in different places.

Did it for 8 years in a tC, no issues with the transmission there. If it messes something up I haven't encountered it in nearly a decade.

This...

I'll often start in 1st and skip 2nd when driving like a grandma or start in 2nd when rolling and skip 3rd

But you did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

It seems like a majority of FRS owners are first time manual transmission drivers.

Only 5% of transmissions sold in the U.S. are manuals, so what do you expect?

I don't see why that matters. Everyone starts somewhere.

I do this downshift a bunch of times a day. I don't like to pass on the highway in 6th. Silky smooth.

I'm not sure I get what you're saying

it was joke .... a funny one unfortunately it was lost on you haha

I do this sometimes...esp the 3rd to 5th part. It depends on how the revs sound and feel AND my speed in a gear. If I know my revs will be sufficient and I know I'll be cruising in 5th, i'll just go to 5th...still engaging the clutch in between.

Don't rev match, you're not Jerry Reed.

Toke back to toyota, syncros was bad from 6 - 5. They replaced it I got a new transmission. End result I saved 6 thousand dollars. Wow this trans cost to made much.


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Definitely not normal. Should get it checked out. Does it grind only when you downshift? That's strange.

Yeah, I kinda got that too from some of the threads that pop up/responses I read.

I personally wouldn't buy a brand new car and learn manual on it but to each his own. I know when I first got my car and started learning manual I wouldn't wanna put my FRS through that.

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I found going from 6th to neutral then to 5th helps the smoothness. For me personally I found the amount my arm has to reach causes to much of a stress to get a reliably smooth one movement shift.

I say the opposite. Learn on a new car, so when you do break something(which 9 out of 10 people will), it's under warranty and free to fix.

I'm one of those people. I couldn't learn any other way as I had no other access to a manual car, and I didn't feel comfortable doing it on a test drive with a salesman in the passenger seat "showing me how" as they offered many times.

I taught 3 teenage daughters and a 40 y.o. wife to drive manual trannies...1 in a Midget, 2 in 914s, and my wife in a Fiat Strada. Never broke anything.

It would really be almost impossible to actually break or even seriously damage a modern synchro manual gearbox, or any other part of the drivetrain.

Over the years, I have BADLY abused some vehicles, and the worst I ever did was snap a U-joint.

Curious about the stress on the engine, tranny from the eventual engine stalls and slipping the clutch for all those learning the manual. I mean ... do you teach someone in a BRAND NEW CAR?

There is other reports of the 5th gear issue on the forum.

Check this thread out: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...5th+gear+grind

He must have check out in between posts.

I've down shifted from 6th to 5th going 70mph and going 50mph. Nothing here =/

I have this same problem with the tranny cold or warm, and about 50 seems to be the magic number. Above 50 and it grinds and below it seems to be fine. The dealer is in the process or ordering a new tranny for my car, unless of course they find a reason that this problem is my fault.

Yep. Had this exact problem, even when rev matching and making sure I was doing it when going under 65 mph. Toyota eventually ended up replacing my entire transmission, and it's been going strong for five months.

No clutches, throw out bearings, or anything?

As for the bolded section, I just can't believe that statement. I've personally destroyed synchros in 2 transmissions now. And don't even want to talk about clutches and TOBs.

^ You suck at driving or have engines that are too powerful for their transmissions....

I know saying "you suck" is harsh but I have owned 3 manuals, drove them all hard, all of them were running fine when I sold them off.

My family has had a few manual family cars, 4 kids learnt how to drive standard on them, they were shared, abused, etc etc. None of them had transmission issues. Ford, Hyundai, Toyota, etc,.

Glad your problem got resolved but um..... don't think that's legal in Georgia yet.