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FT-86 SpeedFactory 05-31-2013 01:11 AM

Greddy / TRUST CS GTS Ver.2 Catback - Photos - Review from FT-86 SpeedFactory
 
When we heard this very rare Greddy / TRUST CS GTS VER.2 Catback for the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ was headed to the USA we just had to snag one up. Greddy originally imported only 2 to the USA. One went to a member on this forum who already posted some photos, and the other to us. Someone spotted this on our website and emailed already so it's out the door to them now. ;)

This thing is ABSOLUTELY drop dead gorgeous. From the welds to the tips, this exhaust screams quality and craftsmanship. We had a very hard time of letting this back out the door. Greddy is letting us bring more into the USA (think July ;) ) and maybe then we'll get some videos but for now, it's time to drool over some photos.

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/10110731-1.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/10110731-2.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/10110731-3.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/10110731-4.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/10110731-5.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/10110731-6.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/10110731-7.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/10110731-8.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/10110731-9.JPG

Again think July, and only a few more being Imported to the USA. :)

boredom.is.me 05-31-2013 01:21 AM

What might the price tag be on this? I saw pictures on the Evo3 page, but thought they were just prototype/phantom pics.

CrazyWookiee 05-31-2013 01:26 AM

Holy, that's gorgeous. If I didn't upgrade already, this would be the one.

FT-86 SpeedFactory 05-31-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyWookiee (Post 971700)
Holy, that's gorgeous. If I didn't upgrade already, this would be the one.

I hear you, this thing is art!

FR-S Matt 05-31-2013 12:39 PM

Looks good. 2.5"?

RallySport Direct 05-31-2013 01:06 PM

Absolutely beautiful!!! :)

Thanks,
Rick

melon 05-31-2013 06:24 PM

:drool::drool::drool::drool:

euroshowoff 06-01-2013 12:11 AM

subscribed

Craig 06-01-2013 12:13 AM

O_________O

Jeff86 06-01-2013 08:57 AM

I saw one of these up close while on vacation last week at Super Autobacs in Tokyo (among a number of others). It was very beautiful.

http://home.comcast.net/~claudiia/SAuto1.JPG

jonbonazza 06-01-2013 10:45 AM

Can you not contact a japanese parts store and have them ship it?

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tokiokun717 06-01-2013 03:03 PM

Does this system drone like the Evo3?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 06-01-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbonazza (Post 974645)
Can you not contact a japanese parts store and have them ship it?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta


You could, but we've already put in an order to import a few more. ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by tokiokun717 (Post 975018)
Does this system drone like the Evo3?

Honestly, no idea. It's to rare for us to bolt up and test and then have to sell as used. :(

Ingen 06-01-2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 975428)
You could, but we've already put in an order to import a few more. ;)




Honestly, no idea. It's to rare for us to bolt up and test and then have to sell as used. :(

How much to buy it and run it to find out? :D

ZeeK 06-13-2013 05:50 PM

Bought one of the two coming in July 22!
 
I was lucky enough to order one of the only two shipments to US for July 22 2 days ago! I will post pictures and videos after the install. I know it's a rather new part for the US so I would appreciate it if you let me know what you guys think!:party0030:

ZeeK 06-13-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 971694)
What might the price tag be on this? I saw pictures on the Evo3 page, but thought they were just prototype/phantom pics.

$1549 and you can't get it anywhere other than FT86SpeedFactory!! So don't get scammed. These guys are on top of it! Bought some Perrin Parts too recently. I don't even look at other sites :D

turbosupra94 06-16-2013 04:05 AM

http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/x...RZ/photo31.jpg

sprintertrueno86 06-16-2013 11:15 AM

Potential purchase.

TRD_86 06-16-2013 12:18 PM

Can you post a video clip review like other exhausts that would be great?

TRD_07 06-16-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbosupra94 (Post 1004975)

I'm assuming you are the second person that bought this exhaust? Looks great dude! Any chance of a video? Thanks.

FR-S Matt 06-16-2013 07:32 PM

Very beautiful exhaust. Beauty comes with a price too, but damn this one looks really nice. Probably my favorite Greddy piece for this car. This is a great show car exhaust and I'm interested in hearing what it sounds like to whoever gets this.

SmsAlSuwaidi 06-16-2013 08:23 PM

I'm surprised nobody commented on how the pinkish purple looks a bit cheap :), nevertheless a beautiful piece

OICU812 06-17-2013 01:52 AM

Tips look 4.5" diameter or greater? Cool

Hawk77FT 06-17-2013 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1005849)
I'm surprised nobody commented on how the pinkish purple looks a bit cheap :), nevertheless a beautiful piece

Dude, that is NOT like the gold. ;-):-DB-)

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Chee-Hu 06-17-2013 11:43 AM

For those wanting to hear the exhaust notes or asking for videos, it was hard to find with the power of Google. Enjoy! It doesn't sound surprisingly loud at all.

http://www.greddy.com/products/jdm-s...er/frs-brz-86/

Possum 07-29-2013 09:51 PM

Hi Guys, Just to inform you all before spending so much on this exhaust, I to have purchased this same exhaust system and yes it does look pretty but only up on a hoist, as you only see a few inches of the rear out the back... Plus the sound quality is as quiet if not less than the standard exhaust. So basically a lot of cash for 2 inches in my opinion and wish I had purchased the M7 or Agency Power system... The Greddy company in Japan stated it was made for the Japanese market which I presume must have lower noise restrictions..
.http://www.ft86club.com/forums/<a hr...pg&quot;/></a>http://www.ft86club.com/forums/%3Ca%...22/%3E%3C/a%3E

Wes 07-29-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Possum (Post 1104996)
Hi Guys, Just to inform you all before spending so much on this exhaust, I to have purchased this same exhaust system and yes it does look pretty but only up on a hoist, as you only see a few inches of the rear out the back... Plus the sound quality is as quiet if not less than the standard exhaust. So basically a lot of cash for 2 inches in my opinion and wish I had purchased the M7 or Agency Power system... The Greddy company in Japan stated it was made for the Japanese market which I presume must have lower noise restrictions..
.http://www.ft86club.com/forums/<a hr...pg&quot;/></a>http://www.ft86club.com/forums/%3Ca%...22/%3E%3C/a%3E

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chee-Hu (Post 1006782)
For those wanting to hear the exhaust notes or asking for videos, it was hard to find with the power of Google. Enjoy! It doesn't sound surprisingly loud at all.

http://www.greddy.com/products/jdm-s...er/frs-brz-86/


It certainly is a beautiful piece, but I'm kinda disappointed in the sound, sounds probably tad bit louder than stock. M7 would be great for people looking for loud and that thing is beautiful as well but too loud for me hah.

Cyau 07-29-2013 10:39 PM

wow looks amazing! but I feel like it's a bit too much for me... too flashy?

wonder what's the gain on it though, it is a cat-back, so should give some gain.

FR-Sizzle 07-30-2013 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Possum (Post 1104996)
Hi Guys, Just to inform you all before spending so much on this exhaust, I to have purchased this same exhaust system and yes it does look pretty but only up on a hoist, as you only see a few inches of the rear out the back... Plus the sound quality is as quiet if not less than the standard exhaust. So basically a lot of cash for 2 inches in my opinion and wish I had purchased the M7 or Agency Power system... The Greddy company in Japan stated it was made for the Japanese market which I presume must have lower noise restrictions..
.http://www.ft86club.com/forums/<a hr...pg&quot;/></a>http://www.ft86club.com/forums/%3Ca%...22/%3E%3C/a%3E

I am pretty sure if this exhaust was used with a front/over pipe/headers it would sound REALLY great. But that could be the reason why its so quiet. Maybe they designed this cat back to have a certain sound with a full exhaust system. I bet if you added headers and a front/over pipe this exhaust would be amazing. This is probably the only exhaust I would buy without caring about the power gains. It is beautiful and it would be something I would like to have if I get front/over pipe and headers. If you get a full exhaust on other cat backs a lot of them are just too loud and just dont sound good.

And BTW Stay away from Agency Power ive read too many bad things about them from customers on these forums and there quality control seems to be crap. Just do a search and look for there threads and customer threads complaining about fitment. No surprise coming from AP/Vivid.

This exhaust looks great though. Only thing is I am wondering about is why they didnt just make it a 2.5 inch all around instead of just 2.36 then split into 2 pipes that are 2 inches.

Most exhausts are 2.5 inch, but this is 2.36 but then when it splits into 2 it is only 2 inches. Do they do that because since its seperate piping like 2.5 inches would be too big and actually lose power? Why not make it 2.5 inch all the way or would that be a bad thing for power gains like how a 3 inch exhaust lose power on some cars? Isnt the stock exhaust only 2 inches? I dont see how this gains any power unless the 2 inch piping when split would basically be a freer flowing exhaust since its 2 separate pipes going to 2 separate mufflers. Do you guys get what I am saying? Kinda hard to explain the way I am thinking it out. I honestly would be in love with this if it was 2.5 all way back. I would love to see a dyno for this exhaust.
B

The exhaust looks nice but it doesnt seem like this would perform that well and probably be just be bought for the looks/sound. For how much it costs and what it does I honestly would rather spend my money on an STI exhaust which sounds/looks better/probably performs the same as this exhaust. But until this exhaust gets dyno'd we wont know. But if someone could explain why they kept the pipes that split into 2 only at 2 inches and not 2.36 or even make the exhaust 2.5 inches from front to back would be nice. Perhaps one of the vendors who know more about making exhausts can chime in on this.

Sookainian 08-01-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Possum (Post 1104996)
Hi Guys, Just to inform you all before spending so much on this exhaust, I to have purchased this same exhaust system and yes it does look pretty but only up on a hoist, as you only see a few inches of the rear out the back... Plus the sound quality is as quiet if not less than the standard exhaust. So basically a lot of cash for 2 inches in my opinion and wish I had purchased the M7 or Agency Power system... The Greddy company in Japan stated it was made for the Japanese market which I presume must have lower noise restrictions..
.http://www.ft86club.com/forums/<a hr...pg&quot;/></a>http://www.ft86club.com/forums/%3Ca%...22/%3E%3C/a%3E


Can please reupload the photo as i cant see them

RallySport Direct 08-01-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sookainian (Post 1111184)
Can please reupload the photo as i cant see them

Had to dig the address out of it, but here you go :)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ps91ab8805.jpg

Both pictures were the same from what I saw.

Thanks,
Rick

twitism 08-05-2013 09:59 PM

did a rather impromptu recording with my camera... not a very good recording, but i'll try to get a proper one done soon


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWzLpPsLFDw"]Greddy GTS V2 Toyota 86 - YouTube[/ame]

Touge86 08-05-2013 11:02 PM

I still think that the m7 is one of the nicest sounding exhausts to date for the brz/frs.

but this thing looks really nice ´:)

Pablitomarrero 08-07-2013 09:55 PM

suscribed

twitism 08-10-2013 02:29 PM

stock vs greddy
 
here's another video for you peeps...

stock vs greddy gts v2

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQliXimN3M"]Stock vs Greddy GTS V2 - YouTube[/ame]

SmsAlSuwaidi 08-10-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-Sizzle (Post 1105611)
I am pretty sure if this exhaust was used with a front/over pipe/headers it would sound REALLY great. But that could be the reason why its so quiet. Maybe they designed this cat back to have a certain sound with a full exhaust system. I bet if you added headers and a front/over pipe this exhaust would be amazing. This is probably the only exhaust I would buy without caring about the power gains. It is beautiful and it would be something I would like to have if I get front/over pipe and headers. If you get a full exhaust on other cat backs a lot of them are just too loud and just dont sound good.

And BTW Stay away from Agency Power ive read too many bad things about them from customers on these forums and there quality control seems to be crap. Just do a search and look for there threads and customer threads complaining about fitment. No surprise coming from AP/Vivid.

This exhaust looks great though. Only thing is I am wondering about is why they didnt just make it a 2.5 inch all around instead of just 2.36 then split into 2 pipes that are 2 inches.

Most exhausts are 2.5 inch, but this is 2.36 but then when it splits into 2 it is only 2 inches. Do they do that because since its seperate piping like 2.5 inches would be too big and actually lose power? Why not make it 2.5 inch all the way or would that be a bad thing for power gains like how a 3 inch exhaust lose power on some cars? Isnt the stock exhaust only 2 inches? I dont see how this gains any power unless the 2 inch piping when split would basically be a freer flowing exhaust since its 2 separate pipes going to 2 separate mufflers. Do you guys get what I am saying? Kinda hard to explain the way I am thinking it out. I honestly would be in love with this if it was 2.5 all way back. I would love to see a dyno for this exhaust.
B

The exhaust looks nice but it doesnt seem like this would perform that well and probably be just be bought for the looks/sound. For how much it costs and what it does I honestly would rather spend my money on an STI exhaust which sounds/looks better/probably performs the same as this exhaust. But until this exhaust gets dyno'd we wont know. But if someone could explain why they kept the pipes that split into 2 only at 2 inches and not 2.36 or even make the exhaust 2.5 inches from front to back would be nice. Perhaps one of the vendors who know more about making exhausts can chime in on this.



Most jdm exhaust systems are designed in MM's or cms ( the metric system ) 60mm = 2.36 :)

Pablitomarrero 08-10-2013 02:50 PM

That sounds great!

FR-Sizzle 08-11-2013 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1132305)
Most jdm exhaust systems are designed in MM's or cms ( the metric system ) 60mm = 2.36 :)

If you read the product description on the Greddy or Trust site you would see that it is only 2.36 before the cat back splits into 2 separate pipes with each pipe coming out to 2 inches each. That is why I am wondering whether or not it would effect performance.

I want to know why they didnt just make it a 2.36/2.5 inch system the whole way from start to where the 2 pipes split up to 2 inches per pipe, like would the cat back not be effective if each pipe after the resonator was 2.5 inches or wouldnt it perform better if it was like that? But I was wondering since it splits into 2 separate pipes whether or not if it would breathe as good as other cat backs with the same diameter the whole way. Like since it goes from 2.36 to 2 inches per pipe once it splits up would this cat back still perform like a 2.5 inch system since each separate muffler/exhaust has 2 inches for it to breath through rather than just 1 pipe that is 2.5 inches that splits into 2 mufflers at the very end of the exhaust like the HKS and Injen Catbacks.

Trying my best to explain what I am thinking of hope you get what I am trying to get at. Other cat backs like the HKS with 2 carbon fiber tips and Injen SES split up towards the end into two mufflers with very little pipe for air to travel from the split to the mufflers where as this cat back splits up at the resonator and the air has a good 3-4 ft before it gets to the muffler in 2 inch piping.

In short would this cat back breathe better or worse than traditional cat backs that have 2.5 inch tubing since the piping separates into 2 inch pipes to there mufflers. Other catbacks are 2.5 and split to the muffler but there distance from where it splits is very small, like an inch or two, compared to this cat back where the split of piping travels MUCH further.

Pablitomarrero 08-11-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-Sizzle (Post 1133210)
If you read the product description on the Greddy or Trust site you would see that it is only 2.36 before the cat back splits into 2 separate pipes with each pipe coming out to 2 inches each. That is why I am wondering whether or not it would effect performance.

I want to know why they didnt just make it a 2.36/2.5 inch system the whole way from start to where the 2 pipes split up to 2 inches per pipe, like would the cat back not be effective if each pipe after the resonator was 2.5 inches or wouldnt it perform better if it was like that? But I was wondering since it splits into 2 separate pipes whether or not if it would breathe as good as other cat backs with the same diameter the whole way. Like since it goes from 2.36 to 2 inches per pipe once it splits up would this cat back still perform like a 2.5 inch system since each separate muffler/exhaust has 2 inches for it to breath through rather than just 1 pipe that is 2.5 inches that splits into 2 mufflers at the very end of the exhaust like the HKS and Injen Catbacks.

Trying my best to explain what I am thinking of hope you get what I am trying to get at. Other cat backs like the HKS with 2 carbon fiber tips and Injen SES split up towards the end into two mufflers with very little pipe for air to travel from the split to the mufflers where as this cat back splits up at the resonator and the air has a good 3-4 ft before it gets to the muffler in 2 inch piping.

In short would this cat back breathe better or worse than traditional cat backs that have 2.5 inch tubing since the piping separates into 2 inch pipes to there mufflers. Other catbacks are 2.5 and split to the muffler but there distance from where it splits is very small, like an inch or two, compared to this cat back where the split of piping travels MUCH further.

The catback will breath as much as the most restricted part of the exhaust will allow. The lond dual pipes will just make it very quiet. Dont expect too much performance out of it. I would guestimate similar gains to the Greddy SE catback... Not much at all. This is mostly for the looks i would say

FR-Sizzle 08-12-2013 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablitomarrero (Post 1133345)
The catback will breath as much as the most restricted part of the exhaust will allow. The lond dual pipes will just make it very quiet. Dont expect too much performance out of it. I would guestimate similar gains to the Greddy SE catback... Not much at all. This is mostly for the looks i would say

Well Most cat backs dont really get much power until you modify everything from the headers to the front/over pipe. The thing is I wonder if Greddy/Trust tried a 2.5 inch system when the pipes split and they possibly lostf power or it just sounded bad/droned like how a 2.75 or 3 inch system would sound ( evo 3 ). Like wouldnt having the system 2.5 inches from the resonator and each of the 2 seperate pipes are 2.5 inches could have this system to perform similar to a system that is a 2.75-3 inch system since they both have there own pipe leading the muffler that are wider?

This is one of the few cat backs I would buy that I wouldn't mind if it got less power than other cat backs. Injen SES and the STI cat backs are the only other 2 cat backs I would purchase just for looks and sound as those 2 things are just as important to me than a cat back that gets 2-3 more whp but sounds like a fart can or drones a lot like the evo 3.

IMO for any cat back once you get a header and front/over pipe thats where you will see the most gains as thats where the cats are at and if you delete both or keep one cat. As long as the cat back is designed well and is 2.36-2.5 inches in diameter. I like this cat back because it sounds very good and is quiet which is very important to me especially if you get headers and a front/over pipe for this car because those two items will make the car much louder.

I beleive that Greddy/Trust designed it in mind that headers and a front/over pipe will not make it sound obnoxious. A lot of cat backs sound really bad once you get headers/front and over pipe. Living in California sound is very important as it can save your ass from getting a ticket and cops to check your modifications in your car.


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