Report: Toyota chooses alternative Toyota FT-86 design (by Calty studio)!
 

As reported on FT86club BLOG.

Possible new Calty designed FT-86:

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Eww, a higher profile with increased overhang. Just eww. Granted, we'll need to see how it officially comes out but damn, the concept was perfect. No need to change it.

Not over the moon about that, but it's still a long way from being finalised as that pic demonstrates.

Wait and see I think.

Cant say im out, just very curious to how its going to look... I think im still in FTW!

Man if its as ugly as the picture im gonna pass for something else. :thumbdown::mad0259:

i prefer sharp edges over curved ones for an aggressive look.. but curves make a car look sexy... i have mixed feelings about this.. the original look already grew on me

:cry: I was going to write in another thread that i think the low ft86 nose would not make it into production -> because of pedestrian safety the noses of cars went higher and higher the last years. Hate that :thumbdown:

We will have to wait...

That's disappointing, I thought the design by Toyota Europe Design Development was already 'production ready' but I guess not! Anyhow I can't wait for Calty's design! Especially since they were responsible for the design of the FT-HS (which kind of gave spawn to the FT-86 in a way) as well as others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calty_Design_Research

As for the picture, I don't think we need to get all hyped and ready to leave because we don't like the lines. If you think about, we don't even know if that picture was EVEN made by Calty or anyone from Toyota at all! If could be just a fan boy/girl who's good at Photoshopping! So please don't fight over a car that hasn't even been made for production yet (minus the FT-86 concept and G-sport concept that was made).

the "carbon fiber" under the head lights make the car look like a panda bear

to be honest, the hood and front end just look too much like my wife's 2001 prius....great car, but not a head turner.....:barf:

say it ain't so!!!

that overhang would be the biggest turn-off to me compared to the Tokyo concept.

Your drug is a heartbreaker?

Edit: Aww, come on hachiroku, I totally had a valid point going on that one post.

Exact same thing I thought... BLECH... I'm leaning more and more toward just buying an STi...

Holiday Auto is a Japanese car mag that, much like Best Car Magazine, often reports made up rumors. However, these mags do get their scoops right every once in a while. i personally am not thrilled about the idea and hope they release it as close to the concept as possible.

ps: calty is also the studio that designed the last gen celica. their designs are hit and miss at best.

WTF???

Well, on the bright side, Calty also deigned the last gen Celica, which was a pretty hot design, so it's not as if this will be a fugly turd...

Looking forward to seeing this thing already...

ED2 design for the win. I'll wait and see what Calty has to offer, but so far I think the ED2 design is perfect as is (It even draws heavily on Calty's FT-HS design). That outline is not confidence inspiring.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


:barf:

I have my doubts about this being true. I mean why would Toyota go to all the trouble and cost to put out a physical concept car based on the ED2 design, have it very well received, only to kill the design and go with another one?

Wouldn't they have already gone through this design selection process before putting any FT-86 concept car out there? If true though, what they did was completely backwards.

everybody keeps saying they hope they keep it as close to the concept design as possible but already we have two DIFFERENT concepts: the one from the european arm and the G-sport which has totally different front end body work. Which concept are you talking about?? There are supposed to be two different concepts we haven't even seen yet so i don't think everyone should begin tying themselves to just one idea yet. It's WAY too early in development. This thing will change quite a bit I'm guessing....

i hated the last gen celica look lol.

The G sport isn't that big of a difference from the standard FT86. Not only that, it's labeled at "G-Sport". They weren't saying that concept would be labeled as the standard Ft86. This rumor however is saying the standard Ft86 is being changed from the original plan.


I'm hoping the production doesn't come out anywhere near the way that picture looks. The front bumper makes it look like an eclipse.

I'm not so crazy about all this but will see, I'm not closing the door yet on the FT86 as far as I know calty designed the FT-HS concept, venza and the scion chassis

here is the FT-HS back in 2008
http://www.notcot.com/archives/2008/...as_calty_d.php
http://www.core77.com/blog/business/...ning_11167.asp
more concept
http://www.notcot.com/archives/2008/...a_calty_de.php

same here that thing is butt ugly.

Soooo...nothings changed.

No news on rescending making it a light weight, RWD coupe.

/shrug

Thats all that matters to me.

I posted this today on 3 different sites. It sounds like the majority of people familiar with the magazine this is sourced from are saying this could very well be a hoax. There's even a guy on one of the sites that thinks he may be able to get some inside info, he apparently knows some people that work inside toyota. It's probably the fact that I love the Euro design so much, but I just can't accept that they would show the euro design, then show a G-sport of the euro design, get rave reviews for both, make a GT5 video with a working model of the euro design(not to mention GT5 won't be out until the end of '10), and then yank the thing. It sounds like there may be more to this. As soon as I find out anything else I will post it here. Stay tuned to this thread, because this news has all 4 sites I go to, buzzing on the verge of death threats...(ha, ha):brokenheart:

Don't f this like throttlegate

We could live with frozen throttles and brake software reliability problems... but if Toyota releases an ugly FT-86 when they have this beautiful ED² design...

I think I'd wait for a new Silvia!

i wish their is a way to vote what the potential owners will like, but hope nemisis is right just a bad hoax

Latest....
 

OK, The guy I told you guys about before that apparently has decent connections at one of the studios and email connections with someone at another gave me this update. I believe he is a reporter of some kind in Japan, he has posted very reliable info thus far. Anyway, here it is(keep in mind I am not putting his name here as I did not get his permission to do so):

So I did talk to someone inside the industry and who would probably know the answer. Ofcourse he cannot tell me but what he did say is that...

Quote:
Just remember the FT-86 was still called a “concept” meaning that nothing is set in stone. ED2 and Calty are the two design studios outside of TMC that are responsible for advanced concepts. They compete for designs all the time. This car is no different I’d imagine. Anyway, makes for some great anticipation, huh?
Once again I can't say who but they do build concepts for CALTY many of which I am sure you have seen http://www.FT-86.com/images/smilies/wink.gif So looks like we have to wait in anticipation till the finally product comes near. Sucks as I do lack patience... ;(

BTW I did also email one of the designers from ED2 but I doubt I will get any info. I will keep you posted if I do!

final thoughts for the night...
 

I am hoping this is just toyota-marketing throwing the FT-86 community a bone to chew on, to bide our time until the concept comes out. In other words: I hope toyota is just starting rumors to keep everyone buzzing so the following for this car doesn't lose it's momentum in the lull between the show last year and the reveal this year...I am crossing my fingers and holding my breath in hopes they haven't moved away from the Euro design....

To each their own...

Anyway, all this really means is that a car that already looked a lot like the FT-HS will just look a little more like the FT-HS -- no biggy.

or as I said in a post that got deleted:

I have faith that Toyota will make this car look like a sport car, no matter what design they use.

ie: Its gonna look sporty. If you're already married to the current concept thats been floating around, then you're married to an image, and not the actual car itself (its performance, feel, etc.). The styling is something to think about, imo, but its no where near the important part.

Yes, design is important for sales...but if design takes precedence over performance, than all we have is a shined up turd.

I'm with Jordo on this one. Based on CALTY's FT-HS, if they take a fraction of that cars design and use it for the 86, then it'll look good.

I fell in love with the design that debut at Tokyo. Not ready to throw in the towel based on the outline shown in this post yet. However what I see so far is the same ho-hum bullshit Toyota has been putting out since they killed the Supra. If this ends up being another cookie cutter carbon copy, i'll be looking for a Legacy Spec B

I hope they don't change too much!! I like the current one!

While what you're saying could be true and I could buy into it...look at what happened to the LF-A. The concept was beautiful and even though I like the production version, I preferred the concepts lines more. But they totally changed the front end and rear lights at the last second prior to production due to "aerodynamic requirements". If they can change a design of a $375000 supercar last second, surely they can change the design of an entry level $20k sports car...the performance of this new car is paramount to the visual cues I would think and would hope most of you guys think too. I mean look at the AE86. It's not really a total looker. We've all fallen in love with the performance and overall package/experience not the design.

don't get me wrong. I love the current design, but I'm not going to hold my breath....

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I agree, I don't want a shined up turd either. But I don't want a high performance turd either. If it performs and looks like junk, I might as well get something else. Think about it, toyota's not claiming this will out perform any specific other vehicle. Todays performance vehicles are looking better then ever and still have power and performance. I agree, I definitely don't want a car that can't perform, but if it looks bad, then whats the sense. The average person that purchases this vehicle won't race it, other then some back road curves and stop light showdowns. Toyota needs this car to be recognized at a standstill. They have that with the ED2 concept. The photo provided in this story does not have the looks to bring the attention needed back to toyota. I know that they are claiming that the direction for this vehicle is the resurrection of the AE86 and that the AE86 is not looker, but performs. But to better a legend, I feel it will need looks as well. Especially with todays competition.

I'm still in. Bring it on.

Gotta say it looks a lot more like a production design, if you know what I mean.

Like the previous design better but if it drives well I'll still get it.

As long it aint like this, I'm fine. Well...http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86...hu/homer-1.jpg

I definitely like the ED2 design better, would prefer that, but as a lot of ppl here are saying in a round about way, if this car performs as toyota says it will, I will buy it regardless of who designs it, only prefer they went with one design company's image over the other.