Classifieds Section Etiquette
 

So, I figured that since we are starting up this section for selling things, there should be rules that are outlined. I just pulled this from Supraforums because they have a very good For Sale section that is very organized.

Hachi, Ichi, and Wings, you're more than welcome to tell me I'm dumb and that we don't need this, I just think it will be helpful.


So firstly, you must fill this out:


-What is your First & Last name?:
-What is your email? (Optional):
-What is your phone number? (Optional) :
-What is your City? :
-What is your State? :
-What is your Zipcode? :


...and put it at the beginning of your thread. Along with that, make sure you put an accurate description and some pictures!



Secondly, you shouldn't post in a thread unless you are actually inquiring about the item because you have a genuine interest in the item.


Thirdly, You can only bump once a day (Mods, you can change this up if you want).


Fourthly, if you have post count of less than 20, forget it! You must have a post count of 20+ to get approval.


Fifthly, you must put have your screen name and date in your picture set, so that we can verify that it is indeed your item.


Sixthly, you must state whether or not you are willing to ship. Listing an item with a price for the item+shipping is very helpful for potential buyers!



Any violation of the rules will result in the revocation of your Zx6, or at least a ban.



And that's all! ModBros, if you like what you see, make it a sticky! If not, then I guess you can modify/delete it...

Guff the wannabe mod lol

You should probably also have something around 50+ post before you can even post in the classifieds. That way we can keep some scammers among other things out.

^50 is a bit too much. I'll let WoW & Hachi know and let Hachi decide the rule on Classification

50 is way to many, then you will get people posting non-sense so they can sell tow hooks here. But a post minimum is a good idea, like 5. This section will need to be strictly modded for rice infractions. :barf:

Supraforums has a 2 year/200 post requirement, but that's a bit too much.

Maybe 10?



And yeah! I'll be mod when I want to be. When there's actual moderating to do, I'm out! :bonk:

ZX6 should only be referenced when talking about a Kawi... :sigh: :bellyroll:


I think 20 posts should be enough. Also pictures of what you're selling should be included. I know on the Tacoma forum, it's manditory.

Thread title with Location, FS/WTB/FT, and item. I personally like the way NASIOC has it, though the classifieds move REAL quick. Bump once a day is appropriate IMO.

While 50 may be too many, 5 is too few. You think someone will post nonsense 50 times to sell tow hooks here but they won't if it's just 5? At least 50 will deter the more lazy ones.

I'd go with 25 myself.

I wouldn't be surprised with a paid membership type deal like DIYMA (well it's mixed, you can post without being a member but have to meet post requirements), S2KI, etc.

Otherwise, I will never post my phone number publically anywhere to sell something. I have no problem providing it in PM, even if the buyer wants it in advance but I'm not going to give my cell number to everyone that easily.

Other requirements IMO, your location, you must OWN the item you are selling (ie no 'selling for a friend'), must be willing to ship unless it's a large item, no links to your FS ad elsewhere, bump only if your thread is off the first page (or 2).

I would like to see two Classifieds Section. One only allows FR-S/BRZ related items and the other one can be any car related items like driving shoes and racing apparels.

In my car specific forum I do three. Integra Type-R Cars only, Integra Type-R Parts, and non-ITR items which can be whatever. I doubt this will be big enough to justify breaking it out more than that.

I think thats a little too much guff. it should be simple.

Firstly the post count limit should be at least 5 no more then 10

When starting a new thread the following is needed:

[FS][FT][WTB](TITLE OF THREAD)

people selling should have description and picture with SN and date.

keep it simple and easy.

Almost every car forum I've been a part of has been a min of 50 posts max of 200. Utilizing the format above. And SN & date in the picture. I must say I feel like the car is getting closer and closer, can't wait to see how active these for sale forums are in the next couple of years!

Seeing as most of us already signed up (myself included) have flown past the 50+ posts on nonsense it won't affect anyone already here :bonk:

THIS

and no love for FT-MH?

I like this suggestion. It would go well with regional classifieds subforums like Nasioc has.

A reputation system would be nice too.

Other suggestions:

-willing to ship or not? Must be stated (like DAVE-ROR's idea)

-No links to craigslist/ebay, etc. Must fill out and properly post here on the website.

and this one does help prevent scammers:

-any item over $200 needs a picture with your username physically in it on a card or paper.

The idea is to prevent an open invitation to scammers not to restrict contributing members.

I loathe the forums that require the screen name in the picture non-sense. If I am posting a car for sale I am not going to put a piece of paper with my SN in the shot.

Post count requirements are good to have, but 20 should be plenty.

Yes, a separate "Used FR-S/BRZ cars for sale" is a must.

Such a low post count makes no sense. Either have the post count to be at least 100 or don't have this limitation at all. For a less than 10 count limit all they have to do is post a few "+1" replies and they'll meet the requirement.

What about being a member for longer than a month as a requirement?

Sorry, if I ever end up selling in the classified section I won't be posting my phone number and e-mail. PM is a different thing, but I don't need to open them up for random spam.

Yep, that's why I would refuse to post mine also.

Thats a much better requirement than post count but I think it should be longer than a month though.

I think time+post count. If I wanted to rip people off it really wouldn't bother me to create an account and come back in a month or two to do so.

Not everyone...

I've had my account removed for inactivity twice already, and I really don't understand how people could have that many meaningful posts on a car that doesn't exist yet.

*posts and looks over to see how many I have*

While I do kind of agree with you, (I've been a member for over two years with a 0.32 posts per day average...there are members here that have that many posts in a week...) the members that have thousands of posts are people that use the forum for social purposes in addition to the car specific news/info.

The 'must be willing to ship' is not something I'm fond of. I've bought on NASIOC only in person with my local chapter. I can inspect the part in person, meet the people and make a judgement call on them and then make my decisions. There is far less chance of fraud or misunderstandings or anything else that can cause drama. Seller can be the one getting ripped of on shipped items too.

Local/in person is a valid option.

I'm liking all the ideas guys. I'll put the stuff that makes sense in the OP when I get home today.

Must be willing to ship doesn't FORCE you to ship the item, it simply doesn't prevent people from outside your area from buying it. IMO If you are using the services provided by this website (including it's bandwidth) you should be willing to sell to whoever wants to buy the item, local or not.

No, but REQUIRING to ship to anybody does. If I only want to sell locally, and not ship, I should be able to.

Edit:


Completely disagree with this statement.

You aren't REQUIRED to ship it, just to be WILLING to ship it if a buyer from out of the area wants to buy it. It's really not that hard to box an item up and go down to FedEx or UPS. If you find a local buyer, great!

That's fine. It's not a rule here anyways but remember it's not your RIGHT to sell stuff on here anyways so you will have to follow the rules or not sell stuff.

On the forum I run that caters to a specific vehicle we enforce that rule because it's in the best interest of the community and in our opinion the community outweighs the individual.

Keep up to good ideas. More ideas you guys put it in there, less work for me to do ;)

I like the way Zilvia.net has their Sale thread.

Post count is a must - yes, but what if I'm new and just want to sell the car?

I'd say 50 post count is good

im gonna predict that the Must-ask-a-mod-to-post rule wont last long. You guys are gonna get swamped and bored of the pms. you're time would be better served simply monitoring the posts and deleting as necessary.

Ditto... as long as they post the selling item pics w their SN next to the item, I don't think getting permission from us isn't necessary

Maybe I'm looking at it from a different angle? Everything car related I've sold has been basically at a loss. I'm just not interested in dealing with potential hassles of shipped product disputes. If I give a very fair price, go through the trouble describing and photographing the item. Then packaging and shipping it and dealing with financial transactions. Then end up with a dispute over the end product (shipping damage, didn't meet buyers expectations, buyer is a ****, whatever...) it is not worth my time to sell these things. And that is a loss to the community, even if it only benefits a small local minority in my hypothetical example. I've dealt with a ton of BS in the past, even local, without having the extra issue of remote buyer/sellers. Also being Canadian, and most everyone else being in the US there are legal complications as well (brokerage crap...).

If I were in it for money, not shipping would be not exactly the smartest business model.

At the very least we could divide sections into National (must be willing to ship) and Local/Regional (optional).

Not sure if mentioned either. More than 2 or 3 bumps, thread should be closed. Also, must include pics to sell, if a week or so passes and still no pic, close thread.

Has having an actual price been covered? Personally hate "Offers?".

Also not a fan of 'feeler' sales threads...