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nzer 05-19-2013 07:14 PM

JBL Speaker kit help please
 
I have searched but can't find this :iono: so I'm asking away...

I am looking at putting JBL speakers into my car but don't want the sub or amp that come with the JBL 86 speaker kit (or the Toyota markup on the prices!).

I am assuming though that they kit contains readily available JBL speakers that fit the stock speaker enclosures.

Does anyone know the JBL speaker model numbers etc that are included as the nine speakers in the JBL speaker kit - Toyota Part PZ490-13250-AO.

Appreciate the assistance.

On ebay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TOYOTA-GT...item51abbd34ac

Most links are to other forums and will likely be blocked but here's the installation guide - unfortunately no specs for the actual speakers.

http://www.toyota-tech.eu/aimuploads..._002_515_1.pdf


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JoeBoxer 05-19-2013 07:19 PM

Never seen a JBL optional speaker set, I doubt they would be off the shelf JBL stuff but its possible. Do you have a link to it?

nzer 05-19-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 945833)
Never seen a JBL optional speaker set, I doubt they would be off the shelf JBL stuff but its possible. Do you have a link to it?

Eight speakers plus a sub. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TOYOTA-GT...item51abbd34ac

Most links are to other forums and will likely be blocked but here's the installation guide - unfortunately no specs for the actual speakers.

http://www.toyota-tech.eu/aimuploads..._002_515_1.pdf

I'll update my original post with this info.

cruzinbill 05-19-2013 08:49 PM

No clue if you can get them alone, doubtful tho. This isnt even avail in the US

nzer 05-19-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cruzinbill (Post 945989)
No clue if you can get them alone, doubtful tho. This isnt even avail in the US

Given JBL are an American firm I am assuming the speakers in the pack aren't specially manufactured for the small 86 market but are repackaged "normal" JBL speakers.

Hopefully someone has seen the pack and might have JBL part numbers rtaher than the Toyota part number.

JoeBoxer 05-20-2013 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nzer (Post 946012)
Given JBL are an American firm I am assuming the speakers in the pack aren't specially manufactured for the small 86 market but are repackaged "normal" JBL speakers.

Hopefully someone has seen the pack and might have JBL part numbers rtaher than the Toyota part number.

I'm sure its nice but seeing that price I understand why you would want to get it cheaper, I'd like to hear it though. I've always been satisfied with JBL products.

ft_sjo 05-20-2013 02:05 AM

It doesn't sound great to be honest. If you did a decent install, with some sound deadening and used a proper amp and processor, it'd be considerably better. In my opinion the stock setup has tighter bass control due to not having a slow sub in the boot/trunk muddying the sound. Needs some serious time alignment to help that.

nzer 05-20-2013 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 946551)
It doesn't sound great to be honest. If you did a decent install, with some sound deadening and used a proper amp and processor, it'd be considerably better. In my opinion the stock setup has tighter bass control due to not having a slow sub in the boot/trunk muddying the sound. Needs some serious time alignment to help that.

Thanks.

As mentioned though I am not looking at the sub in the boot so shouldn't have that issue. I'm too old for bass! I am just looking at getting the JBL speakers to go with my android head unit I have installed.

Got what I wanted - gauges using carscope and torque but now want the sound quality to be a bit better. Sound is already better than stock IMHO but I think replacing the speakers would be as good as I need it.

http://iforce.co.nz/i/phhyg4tm.cja.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/rdk2e2ko.ags.jpg

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ft_sjo 05-20-2013 02:25 AM

If all you intend to do is swap speakers then you will be very disappointed with the JBL kit. You can get considerably sound for less money, albeit with a tiny bit more work (it's not hard making up a couple of mounting baffles).

You really need an amp though for any choice of speakers.

nashsnazzy 05-22-2013 01:44 PM

A sub that fits in your spare tire well would be sweet.

JoeBoxer 05-27-2013 01:50 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300909394732...84.m1423.l2649

I would get this JBL 3 way kit, should be all you need for the front stage.

nzer 05-28-2013 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 962460)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300909394732...84.m1423.l2649

I would get this JBL 3 way kit, should be all you need for the front stage.

Thanks @JoeBoxer for pointing me in the right direction.

Having this set installed as we "speak". Seem to fit really well.

http://www.onlinecaraudio.co.nz/JBL_GTO6583C

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JoeBoxer 05-29-2013 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nzer (Post 963808)
Thanks @JoeBoxer for pointing me in the right direction.

Having this set installed as we "speak". Seem to fit really well.

http://www.onlinecaraudio.co.nz/JBL_GTO6583C

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Didn't know there was a GTO 3 way system either, i don't know if these are even available in the states. The ones on ebay are a great deal, somebody should definitely pick those up and no it's not my auction lol.

spgrizz22 05-29-2013 02:44 AM

Joe Boxer knows his stuff! This guy picked out ALL OF MY STUFF in my car and it sounds amazing!

nzer 05-29-2013 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 966250)
Didn't know there was a GTO 3 way system either, i don't know if these are even available in the states. The ones on ebay are a great deal, somebody should definitely pick those up and no it's not my auction lol.

Makes a change having electronics here that you don't have.

Half the time I have to use our nz post freight re-forwarding system to get stuff delivered to me with amazon and eBay not freighting lots of electronics internationally.

Had the GTO6583C installed today. A bit too much sound from the front stage for me. Need to upgrade the crappy rear speakers now to get the full eight speaker system.

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JoeBoxer 05-29-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nzer (Post 966427)
Makes a change having electronics here that you don't have.

Half the time I have to use our nz post freight re-forwarding system to get stuff delivered to me with amazon and eBay not freighting lots of electronics internationally.

Had the GTO6583C installed today. A bit too much sound from the front stage for me. Need to upgrade the crappy rear speakers now to get the full eight speaker system.

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Do the crossovers have any kind of settings to adjust the tweeters?

mid_life_crisis 05-29-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nzer (Post 966427)
Had the GTO6583C installed today. A bit too much sound from the front stage for me. Need to upgrade the crappy rear speakers now to get the full eight speaker system.

Do yourself a favor and work out a way to move the rears to the back shelf or put them in pods at the rear and leave the back seat down. Experience has shown that speakers right behind your seat like the stock location will screw up your left/right imaging and ultimately make you wish you just left them disconnected.

nzer 05-29-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 966919)
Do the crossovers have any kind of settings to adjust the tweeters?

Not sure and have no skill in this area so have to ask my stereo guy. Worth looking at though. Might show on the info in the box too so will have a hunt. Thanks for the suggestion.

JoeBoxer 05-29-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nzer (Post 967430)
Not sure and have no skill in this area so have to ask my stereo guy. Worth looking at though. Might show on the info in the box too so will have a hunt. Thanks for the suggestion.

The ones i linked in the ebay ad have a couple of adjustments for tweeter level and midrange "shelf", they usually have little jumpers on the crossover you can adjust. If it's too in your face i would move the tweeter level to negative 2-4db, whatever is available on there.


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