Innovate/Spritex/Bullet... What I found searching the web.
 

http://www.bulletcars.com/supercharg...er-system.html

This site says a 50% increase in power for 3000-4500 RPM range and 40% increase in power 6000-7200 rpm range.

http://www.sprintex.com.au/sprintex/...arger-system/#

This site says the kit is Available for purchase but has no link to buy it.

According to Innovate they are still in development doing their durability testing and longevity testing. I talked to them on the phone today and they told me that none of the websites that have it posted for sale actually have any in the U.S.A.

The kits are for sale in New Zealand and Australia from what I am seeing. Innovate will be selling the kits in the U.S.A. It looks like they are very close.

I am not arguing anything about the companies the kit itself or the truth of the information I have found. This is simply putting it together so others don't have to search all over the internet like I did looking for information on this kit.

Here we go again.

I like the kit a lot and I am patiently waiting I am just tired or searching all three sites looking for an update. So I posted them here so people can see what has happened in the past couple weeks and what they are saying about the gains from the kit sense that has been a huge question.

Those who are interested do their own research. Trust me.

Isn't Robispec going to instal one very soon?

Talked on the phone with them today about the radiator/oil cooler they are working on for the car to fit the Innovate and other FI kits. Sounds very promising but I will let them post all the details about it because I only got general details today.

may i know why are you so hyped up about this kit especially ? considering some turbo kits out their manage to start making power down low and hold it all the way through the rpm

Perhaps, like myself, he doesn't want a turbo kit? Perhaps, like myself, he's interested in this kit for it's remarkably easy installation/removal, simplicity and very reasonable cost?

May I ask why you are so interested in a thread about a supercharger that you are not interested in?


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Hope for super early boost threshold, zero Lag, torque in the deep area but all that is supposition as we didn't see it performing yet.
And very quick to go back stock every two year for inspection or in case of trouble with police. I guess it can be done in a couple of Hour's

I just fell in love with the kit when I was at the modified shootout and got to see it in person. I have seen a P&L kit and got a ride in it and I have seen the Vortech kit and rode in that one as well. They put out a lot of power and feel really good but most of the FI kits are saying they are having oil temps go crazy on them rising to 290 and above. Supposedly (from talking to them at the shootout) the Innovate kit does not have this issue. More than anything else I just like the kit and it seems very durable and a kit you could have on the car for many miles without any mechanical issues. It really all comes down to personal preferance more than anything else and tracking the car while relying on it daily I need something that is durable and can take a lot of abuse and not overheat. I have no clue if that is true because the kit is still being tested for long term durability and if the results come back and all the claims are not true I will most likely be going with the HKS kit and their 19 row oil cooler. All the super charger kits are coming out from good companies that have been around for a while and I'm sure they are all good products it just comes to which one is right for each individual.

did i quote you by any chance ? :bonk: i clearly asked @jasper

reasonable price ? care to share that ?

because i feel like teaching my self about this " magnificent kit" considering i owned a both a blown and turbo'd car for a while ,and i don't mind looking into other things :thumbsup:

True about most FI kits heating up, but i think considering Robiespec is installing some cooling it might be similar, as you said its all preference in the end. regarding the HKS kit, thats a good choice especially with what Evasive are doing

what ever kit you end up going with, Njoy it :thumbsup:

Alright no fighting here. This thread was to get info about the kit out because the companies obviously do not do a lot of internet promotions for their product. You have to go from site to site trying to find anything about the kit. Everyone has their own preferences on power delivery in their own cars. This kit starts at $3500 making it the cheapest and with only a 2 hour install very easy to bring the car back to stock sense their is not cutting or drilling that take place in other kits

Word is the pd superchargers running similar psi on the 2.5 rs motors were 280 tq and 230ish for hp. I haven't seen any dyno sheets to go with this information, but on the fa I don't see why it wouldn't make similar numbers if not higher. Pure speculation on my part, but I've been waiting patiently for some information on the innovate kit that will be sold here stateside.

Installed today tuning thursday

I anticipate having to wait for the release from innovate to hear anything from you on this kit?

Yes I'm under a non disclosure.
Car will be at MRLS sunday on track.
Install went suprizingly easy. Instructions easy to follow.

I knew the answer before I asked. I'm also assuming you have an in house tuner?

yes a friend who has been tuning the inovate car on the 91ca piss they call premium.

No need to get so defensive. Perhaps I misinterpreted your intent when you posted that ridiculous picture and smart ass "unicorn" comment.

I'd call $3500 pretty reasonable for a complete bolt-on SC kit with tune.

Here's a possibly less well-known video clip of the Bullet/Sprintex/Innovate SC:

[ame]http://youtu.be/aEXrF6S9VzE[/ame]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that the same shootout that the innovative car blew up at, and was posting quarter mile times slower than a stock frs?

Any idea when Innovate plans to release this kit for sale?

We all know what happened. Can you try to keep from cluttering up this thread with negativity? I know from seeing your posts on other threads that request might be far fetched, but let's give it a try please.

Based on the quality of the build on your shop car and lack of a local tuner I'll most likely be making a trip to socal before the end of the summer to have a custom tune after I install my supercharger.

No but I do know that they don't consider their prospective customers "Beta Testers".
When the testing is complete the kit will be immediately available.
Guys you cant eat till the food is cooked!

Robi

I'll be sure and have bill save you a slot ;-)

Robi

Easy now there wood. He was stating that the kit was super reliable, moreso than other kits. I wanted to know how is it reliable if it already has had issues.

I trust Robi and I'm glad he's got the kit in the hands of a more reliable tuner, but you coming out swinging implying that I constantly trash products is pretty far fetched. Please show me all of the threads that I had no involvement in that I have cluttered up, and or been negative in. I even came to back you up when someone said you were Gmookher.

I have an interest in FI further down the road, and am trying to garner more information on it.

was a old tv show "only the facts Mam"..lol all good. There are a lot of good options out there. In this industry "one size does NOT fit all" ;-)

We WILL test the limits of this kit.

Robi

I'm not gonna dig it up. I appreciate the backup, I would just like to see this thread stay clean without the usual suspects cluttering it up with negativity. If you could help me out I would appreciate it thanks.

So the ecu tune problem that people were referring to is due to Visconti and is isolated to America?

The misinformation on the previous threads always confused me as people did not have problems where I am but proper 98 is readily available, sprintex is basically just down the road from me.

100 percent tuner caused/related.

You have just sent a time bomb to the King of the ecutek tuning:eyebulge::eyebulge:

Did you happen to inspect the Direct injector seals while you had easy access to them?

I assume your opinion on the performance of the kit is not covered by NDA just the facts about dyno results etc yes?

I am in no position to confirm or deny the facts here, I can only posts opinions from a very uneducated point of view.

It boggles my mind that Visconti can tune every single one of the other FI kits without any issues and also provide good N/A tunes, but could not decipher the Innovate kit.

What is so complicated and unique about this SC? I have a completely custom setup on my FI build (which means he cannot get an off the shelf map and send it to me, he had to build it from scratch) and he has been able to provide safe, reliable e-tunes without issues. This all in preparation to live Dyno tuning. The only issues I have had were simple install errors on the hardware side. Again I ask, what is so different and unique about this PD SC that would make it impossible for him to tune right? (Honest question).

Edit: I'm very interested to see how this kit ends up. I know curves looked very good when tuning started, but the numbers were OK, nothing to write home about. Very interested to see how those numbers improve.

Edit 2: I am not trying to defend JV here, I honestly have NO IDEA what happened there. There are a lot of other things that might have gone wrong, my only question is regarding tuning, I just can't wrap my head around at someone saying he could not tune it right and his tune had major issues when everybody else and his body of work has demonstrated he has been able to tune all kinds of setups.

This forum has a bad case of visconti envy :sigh:

It is entirely possible he was indisposed during the shootout, which would leave them without support. The way ecutek works, any other tuner would have to start from scratch which is not something you can do between rounds at an event. This assumes innovate did not do the smart thing an buy the ecutek tuning software so they could have JV tune it using their computer (which would give them full access to the tune). It's also possible they had personal issues.... people don't always get along after all.

I have personally seen the Sprintex kit, although it's not on a car. My local dyno guy has a good relationship with Sprintex and they are pressuring him to get it on and fitted but he's waiting to finish his N/A stuff finished before he goes ahead and does it. He's had the parts for a couple of month now and he will be tuning it when he gets a chance - I'll also be pestering for a drive when it's done. He's pretty certain it's going to be great fun to drive. To show how reliable he believes it is, he said he was thinking about warrantying the engine after the conversion.

Ps - I'm in the UK ;)

I bet it will definitely be fun :)

I've been using the Vortech Kit for 2 days now and it's a blast!

$64,000 question:
Stage 1 or Intercooled Stage 2?

Jasper I'm with you and appreciate contacting them about the kit.
The reason people are so upset is because this is one sketchy company. they do not know how to handle their audience and I see this as terrible terrible customer service.

I absolutely love the kit but hate the company so much I simply can't give them any money.

Don't even own an 86 yet but I'm hyped for this kit.