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Giccin 05-13-2013 03:19 PM

Green light for Nissan GTR R36
 
http://gtchannel.com/blog/nissan-gt-r-r36-green-lighted

http://gtchannel.com/sites/default/f...termark_v1.jpg

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After the sudden retirement of GT-R R35 chief engineer and chief project manager Kazutoshi Mizuno, a source within Nissan revealed some interesting information to our people in Japan. The next-generation of the GT-R, named the R36, is under way, and that it could make its debut as early as 2015! So it seems like rumors of the demise of the GT-R has been greatly exaggerated. The rumors started when Mizuno, before his retirement, said that the current GT-R would continue until 2015, leading some to believe that the model was doomed after 2015. Then came the sudden departure of Mizuno, which threw even more gasoline to the flames. But we discovered that the GT-R will live to see at least the year 2020.
We wrote here at GTChannel that an Infiniti branded GT-R may be created, which is still a possibility with the R36, especially a hybrid version, which will certainly be added to the GT-R lineup. Sports cars all over the world are now evolving into fuel-efficient machines. Aside from the likes of the Lamborghini Veneno, limited to just three in the world, we saw at this past Geneva Motor Show that Porsche, Ferrari and even McLaren are introducing hybrid concepts that would not only reduce emissions, but also improve fuel efficiency. There will be new emission regulations in Europe starting from 2015, limiting them to 130 grams per kilometer per vehicle, which is accelerating development of sports hybrids. Of course a future GT-R must also comply. Sooner or later, Nissan will need to have a relevant strategy, so it is assumed that development of a next-generation GT-R was in motion before Mr. Mizuno’s departure.
We aren’t sure that the final direction of the next-generation R36 GT-R has been decided, but according to Nissan officials, the basics have been determined, and research is already under way. The two paths the R36 could take are: A more advanced version of the current GT-R; and the other is to build a completely new European-style, luxury GT-R.
The design of the R35 GT-R expresses heft and aggressiveness. Taking that image further would likely mean a move toward a race car image. The other design would likely be in the mold of the Emerge or Infiniti Essence. Elegant styling would be a major feature. However, the Emerge and Essence are reminiscent of Jaguar. It’s a cool look, but the market would likely say that they’ve already seen the design somewhere else, and the model would lose its originality and its Japanese image.
If the new GT-R does indeed make its way into the Infiniti brand, the design would have to be a breakthrough image leader as Infiniti seeks success in Europe. Assuming the accuracy of rumors, we can say the next GT-R would have a slightly larger body, with a width of about 75 in. and a lower overall height of about 53 in. There would also be a power-assist electric motor, to achieve a total power output of 550 hp. In this case, we can expect a fuel consumption improvement of more than 30 percent compared to the current model.
The price will of course surpass $100,000. At the earliest, the debut would be at the end of 2015, replacing the current R35 GT-R. Naturally we should see a prototype of the next generation GT-R well before the debut. We will keep you informed.

OrbitalEllipses 05-13-2013 03:35 PM

Nice Genesis.

jshadeck 05-22-2013 08:59 PM

The new mclaren is gonna blow this out of the water

dem00n 05-22-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jshadeck (Post 953590)
The new mclaren is gonna blow this out of the water

Which one? The million dollar one we're most likely never going to see?

GTB/ZR-1 05-22-2013 09:52 PM

"...we can say the next GT-R would have a slightly larger body..."

I was really hoping for a smaller car--and @ least 10% lighter.

My R35 was awesome--just too big...

norsamerican 05-22-2013 10:08 PM

Ew

bestwheelbase 05-23-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1 (Post 953697)
My R35 was awesome--just too big...

Curious to hear more of your thoughts on the R35. I have only spent a little time in them. Are you referring to a particular dimension that was too big, or the overall feel of the car (weight, exterior size, interior space, in total)?

OrbitalEllipses 05-23-2013 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bestwheelbase (Post 954104)
Curious to hear more of your thoughts on the R35. I have only spent a little time in them. Are you referring to a particular dimension that was too big, or the overall feel of the car (weight, exterior size, interior space, in total)?

You're not asking me, but one sec Steven.

Pig difference:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...1199769661.jpg
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...1199769649.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...2r33r34r35.jpg

The R35 Godzilla is also close to 3800lbs IIRC. That's HEAVY. You can add power, but hiding/removing mass is HARD. It's a Japanese muscle car; analogous to a GT500 Mustang would be if the Mustang was a Japanese car.

Super edit: I think I'm becoming a weight weenie.

bestwheelbase 05-23-2013 02:09 AM

@OrbitalEllipses you will appreciate this photo:


OrbitalEllipses 05-23-2013 02:12 AM

Ah, yes! I've seen that one before. GREAT illustration of how big the R35 is. Look at the skinny girls, then look at the fatty. :(

bestwheelbase 05-23-2013 02:33 AM

I guess my experiences with R35 GTR were "a pleasant surprise" because I knew getting in to the car that it was big and heavy. So when it felt more lively than I expected, I was impressed. GTB ZR1 has a whole lot more experience driving them fast, so I am curious what he reflects back on.

GTB/ZR-1 05-23-2013 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bestwheelbase (Post 954201)
GTB ZR1 has a whole lot more experience driving them fast, so I am curious what he reflects back on.

The car performs in a way it shouldn't considering its heft. I got my car down to 3587 on fumes (nearly 3900 stock w/ full tank), which was significant--but the car could not defy physics (although it tried VERY hard to). I used the car in SCCA Solo, but it just couldn't compete w/ cars 1000+ lbs lighter on the tight courses--and significantly smaller in stature. On a road course though--the car was truly Godzilla--peerless.

If the car was abt 7/8 size & weight AND had the power my car had (~600whp on e85 w/ bolt-ons)--STAND BACK...

serialk11r 05-23-2013 07:14 AM

God damn how are they making the car even bigger than it is now? I see them drive by sometimes and they look gargantuan even when I'm sitting in a fat SUV.

2forme 05-23-2013 09:02 AM

fugly, IMO

JoeBoxer 05-23-2013 09:41 AM

I'd be happier to see a new 240sx/Silvia...

I still want a S15 really bad, one of these days i'll get one or i'll just get another S14 and swap something crazy under the hood.

Whitigir 05-23-2013 09:45 AM

I think the new GTR look pretty sweet. But still too much to buy one. Perhap until 50k or less, or more than 70k i prefer c7

Trashed675 05-23-2013 06:34 PM

Just bring back the R34.....job done

chulooz 05-23-2013 07:37 PM

Who were they listening to when they decided to make it bigger?

dem00n 05-23-2013 07:59 PM

Bigger?

The fuck Nissan? You turning into Honda?

M.I.A 05-23-2013 08:46 PM

It will be out before the NSX and the McLaren p13. Porsche will have lots of new competitors cause the gallardo replacement will be here by next year and the R8 will be here after that.

serialk11r 05-23-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by M.I.A (Post 956088)
Porsche will have lots of new competitors cause the gallardo replacement will be here by next year and the R8 will be here after that.

Porsche? Porsche is at least somewhat pedestrian, you can buy it for a reasonable amount of money.

You know, I'm fed up with all this news of V10 this V12 that, 600 horsepower this 900 horsepower that, 5 liter this 7 liter that, where's the new cars for sane, practical people? Or at least people with a hint of sanity? Where's the new MR2 or something?

dem00n 05-23-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 956125)
Porsche? Porsche is at least somewhat pedestrian, you can buy it for a reasonable amount of money.

You know, I'm fed up with all this news of V10 this V12 that, 600 horsepower this 900 horsepower that, 5 liter this 7 liter that, where's the new cars for sane, practical people? Or at least people with a hint of sanity? Where's the new MR2 or something?

Found the perfect one for you.

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Honda-Ac...3_photo_01.jpg

serialk11r 05-23-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 956139)
Found the perfect one for you.

I said a hint of sanity, not a lot :P I drive a crazier car than you.

dem00n 05-23-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 956153)
I said a hint of sanity, not a lot :P I drive a crazier car than you.

There are plenty of sane cars out there. What do you want? 300HP and 4 doors?

Kay.

http://s1.aecdn.com/images/news/gall...-gallery_9.jpg

bestwheelbase 05-24-2013 02:02 AM

@serialk11r I'm with ya. We must be patient. They will come.

Sasquachulator 05-24-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chulooz (Post 955937)
Who were they listening to when they decided to make it bigger?

America!

Where bigger is always better!

Its why a car like the BRZ/FRS is so refreshing. It may be weaksauce compared to tons of cars out there but its dinky in size comparison too.

cant believe they would think about making it bigger......the things a pig already.
I think the reason it defies all logic as much as it can is because of the computers helping it to.

zenki_levin 05-24-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 954121)
You're not asking me, but one sec Steven.

Pig difference:

The R35 Godzilla is also close to 3800lbs IIRC. That's HEAVY. You can add power, but hiding/removing mass is HARD. It's a Japanese muscle car; analogous to a GT500 Mustang would be if the Mustang was a Japanese car.

Super edit: I think I'm becoming a weight weenie.

These size comparisons are interesting to see, thx for posting. :thumbup:

Redlinedfrs86 06-04-2013 11:04 PM

R33 and R34 ... Two best generations of the GT-R IMO .... Wish they go back to the R34 style !!

fatoni 06-04-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Redlinedfrs86 (Post 981878)
R33 and R34 ... Two best generations of the GT-R IMO .... Wish they go back to the R34 style !!

well that would mean that you would never be able to get one, well i guess you would because youre in florida but you know what i mean.

ps i agree with you about them being the best skylines of the lot.

Rayme 06-04-2013 11:20 PM

I'm kind of suprised. The GTR is a very very low seller, might as well make it bigger and more expensive eh?

jshadeck 06-04-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopilot (Post 981910)
I'm kind of suprised. The GTR is a very very low seller, might as well make it bigger and more expensive eh?

Partially due to the hand assembly of parts they can only produce 1000 a month, however, at 12000 a year it would still outsell the r8 which for its price/market is a pretty good seller

Luis_GT 06-05-2013 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopilot (Post 981910)
I'm kind of suprised. The GTR is a very very low seller, might as well make it bigger and more expensive eh?

WHAAA???

Last time I went to a half mile competition there where more GTR's than there where BMW's...

Rayme 06-05-2013 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Luis_GT (Post 982130)
WHAAA???

Last time I went to a half mile competition there where more GTR's than there where BMW's...

Look up the sales numbers by yourself.

Rampage 06-05-2013 08:21 AM

My son hates it when I say the R35 looks like a taxi cab. Now, I can say the R36 looks like a overblown Genesis.

ft86Fan 06-05-2013 01:31 PM

People buy a car that is named Godzilla and complain that its too big? Its like people buying the Mini and complain that its too small :bellyroll:

jshadeck 06-05-2013 01:34 PM

It was godzilla when it was small...

GTB/ZR-1 06-05-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86Fan (Post 983062)
People buy a car that is named Godzilla and complain that its too big? Its like people buying the Mini and complain that its too small :bellyroll:


Uh... See above post... ^^^^^^^^

Carlitoz3 06-05-2013 01:45 PM

Never realized the gtr was such a fatty =-O

jshadeck 06-05-2013 02:13 PM

http://torquepost.wordpress.com/2012...lled-godzilla/

👍

HeubergerMotors 06-05-2013 02:48 PM

Lol, that's crazy I never recognized how large it was!


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