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Axel 02-04-2010 05:43 PM

Is Toyota Paying The Price For Building Dull Cars?
 
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S2KtoFT86 02-04-2010 07:06 PM

/agree.

Midship Runabout 02-04-2010 09:17 PM

WTF is up with the hello kittly toaster and bread

NESW20 02-04-2010 11:23 PM

tl/dr.

-Mike

OldSkoolToys 02-05-2010 12:42 AM

ahahaha, god I love driving an old car.


Everyday is an adventure in the hachi! And unlike all of the new car's coming out, its an actual, mechanical vehicle.

jay4prez 02-05-2010 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 8867)
ahahaha, god I love driving an old car.


Everyday is an adventure in the hachi! And unlike all of the new car's coming out, its an actual, mechanical vehicle.

You're not the only one bro, same here, and since I broke my speedo, I've been driving by ear, rpm's and gearing let me know approximately how fast I'm going.

oh, and throttle cable ftmfw!!!

Lexicon101 02-05-2010 04:02 AM

as much as I'm not a fan of driving a civic.. at least I'm glad it's a 1990 civic, and I can feel the road... plus, it's about featherweight..
Main thing I like about my car is.. I know what's happening with every noise it makes, with every lever depressed or toggle switched. My car is placed under my control simply because it doesn't try to control itself.

I say.. rather than making smart cars that will save the idiots.. make simple cars that will serve the enlightened.

Siriusly.Andrew 02-05-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexicon101 (Post 8884)
My car is placed under my control simply because it doesn't try to control itself.

I say.. rather than making smart cars that will save the idiots.. make simple cars that will serve the enlightened.

Spoken like a true Enthusiast. Amen!

Ricepuddin 02-05-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Normous (Post 8847)
WTF is up with the hello kittly toaster and bread

Toyota= Kitchen appliance

Lexicon101 02-06-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Siriusly.Andrew (Post 8901)
Spoken like a true Enthusiast. Amen!

*bows humbly*
:thanks:

Ground N Pound 02-08-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricepuddin (Post 8906)
Toyota= Kitchen appliance

In recent times yep but hopefully with the FT-86 they will have a sporty model again.

Axel 02-13-2010 07:55 AM

Car & Driver on a similar theme...

Prius Next Up for Recall Hysteria, Could Corolla Be Next?

February 10, 2010 at 2:02 pm by Jared Gall

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-cont...us-439x293.jpg
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[An intro tallying the dizzying amount of previous Toyota recalls was here, but you already know what's going on, and we know you've had a hard day—Ed.] And now, the recall sharks are biting at the Prius, with approximately 133,000 2010 model-year cars being recalled to have an update performed on the anti-lock braking software.

The problem, it seems, is that “some 2010 model year Prius owners have reported experiencing inconsistent brake feel during slow and steady application of brakes on rough or slick road surfaces when the ABS is activated in an effort to maintain tire traction.”

Sigh.


Ladies and gentlemen, here is conclusive proof that nobody in a Prius has a freaking clue how to drive! What’s being described is, um, what ABS does. It senses individual wheels locking up and pulses those brakes. Assuming you are on a real road with real, inch-to-inch changes in coefficient of friction, that pulsing will result in real-time changes in the traction available to your tires and therefore inconsistent brake feel. Add in the fact that the Prius’s world-saving powers include a switch from regenerative braking to standard, friction-based braking, and you’ve got inconsistent brake feel. I’d guess this software upgrade Toyota is performing is going to remove every last ounce of pedal feel, making for the same complete lack of feedback during ABS operation as there is during regular braking. It seems that we’re really just trying to get these poor souls as far removed from the actual act of driving as possible. What, are they surprised, too, that turning that big round thing in front of them causes the car to change direction?!

I shouldn’t joke about that, actually. USA Today is reporting that some Corolla owners have now come forward (the brave, tormented souls that they are) with claims that their Toyotas “can wander when they drive on the highway, making it hard to stay in lanes.” Might I suggest putting down the bagel, the eyeliner, and the Danielle Steel novel? Perhaps steering with your hands, rather than your knees, might make your car more predictable.

USA Today says that Toyota has heard 83 complaints concerning power steering, most from owners concerned that the car can veer right or left at speeds over 40 mph. The claim is that this defect has caused 10 accidents and six injuries. My supposition is that those ten accidents were caused by drivers rooting through the glove box for a cell-phone charger while said phone is cradled against the shoulder, then dropping the charger on the floor (where, we might add, it would contact a floor mat. Blame the floor mat!) and continuing to dig for it. In those 15 seconds, our drivers have given only cursory thought—and not a single real glance—to the fact that they are piloting a 3000-pound projectile at 70 mph. [More like 60. And in the left lane in a 70 zone—Ed.]

The Corolla situation is compared in USA Today to “being buffeted by strong winds, sliding on black ice, or hydroplaning.” Those reporting the problem said that the car can overcorrect, and that it can require the driver “to use a tight, persistent, two-handed grip on the wheel to travel in a straight line.” Another called it “the most terrifying thing that ever happened to them.” That, we don’t doubt.

After all, we poor consumers have been the whipping boy for industry for decades, but now we can finally make Toyota take the blame for our atrocious driving habits. I say it’s time we ride this wave to its logical conclusion. Let’s get on LG to issue a recall for their big-screen TVs because the amount of time guys spend watching football; surely crazy microwaves emitted by the screen are slowly killing their brain cells. There’s no doubt that studies done by Nickelodeon scientists will turn up incontrovertible evidence of brain decay! (Meanwhile, anyone notice the ever-present Bud Light in hand?) Better yet, let’s all demand Pampers recall every single freaking thing they’ve ever made, because don’t we all just know the ugly truth? Diapers are causing our children to crap themselves! Think about it: Kids stop crapping their pants when we finally take them out of diapers!

Actually, maybe the solution is to put all these Toyota drivers back in their diapers, give them a pacifier, and tuck them in with the warm glow of a ladybug night light to put them to sleep.

For more, check out “Shift into Neutral, Dummy,” our complete guide to the Toyota recall fiasco.

Lexicon101 02-13-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Axel (Post 9565)
Car & Driver on a similar theme...

Prius Next Up for Recall Hysteria, Could Corolla Be Next?

February 10, 2010 at 2:02 pm by Jared Gall

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-cont...us-439x293.jpg

That is so much win, I can barely stand it.
:bow:

Midship Runabout 02-15-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Axel (Post 9565)
Car & Driver on a similar theme...

Prius Next Up for Recall Hysteria, Could Corolla Be Next?

February 10, 2010 at 2:02 pm by Jared Gall

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-cont...us-439x293.jpg

this made me giggle and be pissed off at the same time.

OldSkoolToys 02-23-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Axel (Post 9565)
Car & Driver on a similar theme...

Prius Next Up for Recall Hysteria, Could Corolla Be Next?

February 10, 2010 at 2:02 pm by Jared Gall

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-cont...us-439x293.jpg

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.


deep breath

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah aha.

Its even sillier in my eyes that we have our own damn Government stepping in and making a fuss on behalf of the twits.:iono:

TheBigBadBanana 02-23-2010 08:08 PM

This whole ordeal is just vehicularly-retarded people trying to blame others for their incompetence. I'm really not surprised though, seeing as all one has to do to get a drivers license these days is put it in D and drive around the block.

Midship Runabout 02-23-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Axel (Post 10581)
the installation of brake over ride systems on all future models

how can this be removed??

MtnDrvr86 02-23-2010 10:39 PM

hopefully a fuse

Lexicon101 02-24-2010 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBigBadBanana (Post 10590)
This whole ordeal is just vehicularly-retarded people trying to blame others for their incompetence. I'm really not surprised though, seeing as all one has to do to get a drivers license these days is put it in D and drive around the block.

True story.
I learned to drive by taking my dad's car out every weekend for a couple months without his permission..
When I took my driving test, the lady who administered the test was like "You've been doing this for a while, haven't you?"
:bellyroll:

Edit: Of course... I'm better at it now, but...

vh_supra26 02-25-2010 03:22 AM

I wouldn't really call Toyota's cars dull. Are Dodge cars anymore fun to drive?

Lexicon101 02-25-2010 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 10773)
I wouldn't really call Toyota's cars dull. Are Dodge cars anymore fun to drive?

I'm betting that Camaro's not boring.
and from what I hear, mazdas are more fun to drive..
Can you look at anything in the Toyota lineup (not talking about lexus or scion here) and call it a true sports car?

vh_supra26 02-25-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexicon101 (Post 10776)
I'm betting that Camaro's not boring.
and from what I hear, mazdas are more fun to drive..
Can you look at anything in the Toyota lineup (not talking about lexus or scion here) and call it a true sports car?

Camaros aren't made by Dodge :thumbdown:

Yes Mazdas are fun to drive, I own one.

Idk, some people think the Yaris and Corolla XRS are fun to drive (not sport cars tho).

Siriusly.Andrew 02-25-2010 01:08 PM

for me, driving is fun... so saying I had fun driving *whatever* is normal lol.

though I have blast at Auto-X :)

Midship Runabout 02-25-2010 03:26 PM

I would think a challenger with a 5.7l hemi would be plenty fun to drive. but thats just me

Lexicon101 02-25-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 10790)
Camaros aren't made by Dodge :thumbdown:

Sure they are, what are you talking about?
Who do you think makes them? Ford?
:bellyroll:

vh_supra26 02-25-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexicon101 (Post 10834)
Sure they are, what are you talking about?
Who do you think makes them? Ford?
:bellyroll:

:bonk:GM

Anyways maybe using Honda would be a better example. :iono:

Lexicon101 02-25-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 10866)
:bonk:GM

Anyways maybe using Honda would be a better example. :iono:

No way. Pretty sure that's a Dodge.
:paddle:

Siriusly.Andrew 02-25-2010 09:32 PM

I dunno, something weird about a "Dodge Camaro" .. "Chevy Charger"? hmm who knows :P

But I do like the Charger commercial, its really good.

Lexicon101 02-25-2010 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Siriusly.Andrew (Post 10894)
I dunno, something weird about a "Dodge Camaro" .. "Chevy Charger"? hmm who knows :P

But I do like the Charger commercial, its really good.

I don't see anything weird there.
:iono:

ddoouugg 02-26-2010 10:31 AM

I don't think it's because their cars are dull. I think it's a change in philosophy. They are no longer concentrating on making the best cars like they used to. They are now all image focused and sales focused instead of car focused. This philosophy change may also be the reason their cars have become so dull and boring. They don't car about the cars anymore. They expect their reputation to carry them like GM did many decades ago. They are paying the price for loosing sight of the objective: to make good quality cars.

vh_supra26 02-26-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexicon101 (Post 10893)
No way. Pretty sure that's a Dodge.
:paddle:

Stop being a retard :bellyroll:

Lexicon101 02-27-2010 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 10949)
Stop being a retard :bellyroll:

Don't call me a retard, you retard.
:thumbdown:

vh_supra26 02-27-2010 12:42 PM

^u is what u is :)

Lexicon101 02-27-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 11058)
^u is what u is :)

I r smrat.
Stfu.
:paddle:


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