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CSI:86 05-10-2013 12:34 PM

Should i sell my Toyota 86?
 
Hi everyone,

I am seriously considering selling my Toyota 86 now.

I am currently 27, work as a court prosecutor. I was recently divorced and have a 2 yr old girl, that i share joint custody. My first car was a 1999 DC2 Honda Integra Type R that i left stock and sold for a 2004 Toyota Celica. I had that car throughout my law degree at uni for about 5 years. Did some performance mods to it. Got married a yr after that. Sold the Celica, bought a brand new BMW x5. Then i bought a Lexus is350 for myself. Got divorced. Ex wife gave birth. Ex wife got the x5 in the divorce agreement, even though i paid for it all. Sold the is350, bought a 370z. Got into another relationship with a girl that has an orange Toyota 86. Sold the 370z. Bought a white Toyota 86.

Reasons i want to sell the 86:

- Lack of power, i am used to higher powered cars
- Practicality
- Considering a bmw 335i 4 door or audi s4

Reasons i dont want to sell the 86:

- I love the looks of the car
- ITS TOO FUN TO DRIVE!
- Fuel consumption
- My partner and i make a good couple :D


Any suggestions will be very helpful.

EDIT:

Hi everyone,

I really appreciate all the comments! Im sorry about the long life story. My life story has been influential in me buying a 370z when i got divorced to mask my insecurity and depression and in buying the 86 when i implusively purchased it because it made me smile like no other car.

Even if some of the comments were hurtful, i forgive. All love! :)

I have decided to NOT sell the car. And decide to finish off my bolt on build with a tune to add more power. My partner will dump me if i sell it, and most importantly my kid loves the car as well.

Once again, thanks for all the comments!

zaptorque 05-10-2013 12:36 PM

So you're asking a bunch of 86 enthusiasts if you should sell your 86?

cnk 05-10-2013 12:37 PM

Honestly, it really doesn't matter what anyone on some forum tells you to do. You're an adult. . .decide what you want and make your own decisions based on what fits your needs/wants.

Trap63 05-10-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSI:86 (Post 924583)
Hi everyone,

I am seriously considering selling my Toyota 86 now.

I am currently 27, work as a court prosecutor. I was recently divorced and have a 2 yr old girl, that i share joint custody. My first car was a 1999 DC2 Honda Integra Type R that i left stock and sold for a 2004 Toyota Celica. I had that car throughout my law degree at uni for about 5 years. Did some performance mods to it. Got married a yr after that. Sold the Celica, bought a brand new BMW x5. Then i bought a Lexus is350 for myself. Got divorced. Ex wife gave birth. Ex wife got the x5 in the divorce agreement, even though i paid for it all. Sold the is350, bought a 370z. Got into another relationship with a girl that has an orange Toyota 86. Sold the 370z. Bought a white Toyota 86.

Reasons i want to sell the 86:

- Lack of power, i am used to higher powered cars
- Practicality
- Considering a bmw 335i 4 door or audi s4

Reasons i dont want to sell the 86:

- I love the looks of the car
- ITS TOO FUN TO DRIVE!
- Fuel consumption
- My partner and i make a good couple :D


Any suggestions will be very helpful.

The better option is change girls but never cars....;) girls come and go (as money)


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jadewbj 05-10-2013 12:41 PM

Do what you want. If you don't like the car sell it. If you do like the car keep it. Simple.

Wes 05-10-2013 12:43 PM

If its power you need, just put in more money I'm sure you can make it faster
but ultimately up to you since you'll be the one to have to live with the choice at the end

CSI:86 05-10-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnk (Post 924593)
Honestly, it really doesn't matter what anyone on some forum tells you to do. You're an adult. . .decide what you want and make your own decisions based on what fits your needs/wants.

I don't know what i want right now. Thats why i would like anyone on the forum to shed some light. Whether anyone has had the same experience and how they cope and resulted.

DarkSunrise 05-10-2013 12:46 PM

Personally, I would not sell this car for something heavier like an S4 or 335i. But I also have a GTI on the side for when I need a bigger car (usable rear seats, more cargo space, etc.)

If I could only have one car, I'd probably have kept my STI hatch or bought an Evo X GSR.

leon78 05-10-2013 12:51 PM

You already bought the car...and you want us to re-sell it to you?

If your ego needs a boost b/c you drive a slow car...you will get over it....I did.
(i.e. its more fun to drive then my previous faster cars.)

OrbitalEllipses 05-10-2013 12:52 PM

Sounds like poor financial management.

naikaidriver 05-10-2013 12:55 PM

Just a tip, don't volunteer such an in-depth insight into your private life if its not relevant. Its awkward. You're back-story doesn't have any bearing with your reasons to sell or keep your 86 unless you're worried about money.

Cars are just like any other possession. (or women for that matter) if it doesn't make you happy anymore, trade it in for a better model.

Scott

marky 05-10-2013 12:58 PM

My suggestion is keep the car since your GF drives a 86 and you have one too I'm sure this relationship will last longer then your ex:burnrubber:

Ask for selling the car. I think you answered your own question:bellyroll:

I have driven higher HP cars love them..but there's just something about a light weight car with enough power to push it around :burnrubber:

GNS 05-10-2013 01:01 PM

TMI

Sell your car, never look back. Buy a Civic, it suits you better.

Sco2355 05-10-2013 01:03 PM

I think you should convert it to a "Scion" and let me buy your Toyota parts!

marky 05-10-2013 01:30 PM

So you love the car but want something else with more power.. I say its time for turbo or super charger :party0030:

frslee 05-10-2013 01:31 PM

Just buy S4 and call it a day.

hanabie 05-10-2013 01:34 PM

TORCH IT!
remember to post that video

CSI:86 05-10-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marky (Post 924736)
So you love the car but want something else with more power.. I say its time for turbo or super charger :party0030:

Yeah i was thinking about forking out a 5k for a Full blown or AVO turbo kit. But i don't know how reliable it will be in the medium to long term. Plus it will take away the responsiveness of a NA engine.

campy 05-10-2013 01:35 PM

I think it would be a bad idea to plan big financial decisions like buying cars around your relationships. Since you have a kid, I think you might want to consider sedans, like the wrx or lancer evo. They're still very fun to drive but have a bit more functionality too. You might be able to trade one for your 86. The BMW 3 series is very comfortable, but coming from an 86, you will definitely feel like the driving experience is lacking. Or you could just get another job, make more money, and buy more cars.


But what would I know I'm just some guy on the internet

CSI:86 05-10-2013 01:45 PM

Job and money is not a issue. It's more what i want in a car. I love the fun factor of the 86. But i think its impractical for my needs. So one side is telling me to stick with it, because it puts a smile on my face everytime i drive it. But the other side is telling me its somewhat impractical and underpowered for my tastes.

Is there any car on the market that is as light as the 86, as fun to drive as the 86, has as much power as the Bmw 335i and Audi s4 (330hp) and has four doors and 5 seats?

ichitaka05 05-10-2013 01:50 PM

sell it

hanabie 05-10-2013 01:52 PM

Sell it! Sell it tomorrow. So this kind of thread will be ended immediately.
F toyota! They should market fully equipped GT86 in the US because there are more people here know how to appreciate this car.

FRiSson 05-10-2013 01:52 PM

What you are "used to" is irrelevant. We are highly adaptable creatures. High power in cars appeals to our most primitive instincts, but more reasonable output will appeal to our higher intelligence. A higher efficiency, but lower power and naturally aspirated engine almost invariably means less emissions, less greenhouse gases, less pollution and lower costs. That's good for us and good for society. As a clearly intelligent law student you just need to favor the smart side of your brain on this decision. As far as safety, cost and handling the FR-S is the right choice. The only real sacrifice is a matter of space and capacity.

hanabie 05-10-2013 02:00 PM

I thought lawyers should at least type perfect grammar. It is an indication that they are competent especially during the argument. I'm not trying to be a grammar police. However, those kind of things always come out instantly. It is like in your blood. My English is bad, and I don't need it much to make my living. I'm happy as long as I could deliver my messages.

Please stop this kind of thread. We are not here to be your mom.

Fyi, you can keep your personal issues if you want to create a thread like this. Nobody cares how many times you have divorced. This is a car forum, not a dating forum or something like psychological consultation agencies.

Something should sound like this:

Should I eat or not? I will go with the majority of votes. When the poll decides that you should eat, then you should eat regardless you are not feeling hungry.

Or get something like this. I hope it helps you.

"Magic Conch! Should I keep the car?"

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdao98gNEP1qlvpx1.png

dem00n 05-10-2013 02:06 PM

Sell it, you'll regret it.

We still live in the horsepower era but it wasn't as relevant as it was a year ago.

CamryDS 05-10-2013 02:10 PM

This thread got side tracked fast!

Anyway, You should be able to make your own assessment. This shouldn't be up to anyone in the forums since we don't know you.

mezdup 05-10-2013 02:18 PM

@CSI:86 you said you had an integra and celica. those weren't fast cars. you also said that you did some performance modifications to the celica. why not just do the same to the 86?

marky 05-10-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSI:86 (Post 924743)
Yeah i was thinking about forking out a 5k for a Full blown or AVO turbo kit. But i don't know how reliable it will be in the medium to long term. Plus it will take away the responsiveness of a NA engine.

Time for a 2JZ swap:burnrubber:

Wilsonk227 05-10-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSI:86 (Post 924765)
Job and money is not a issue. It's more what i want in a car. I love the fun factor of the 86. But i think its impractical for my needs. So one side is telling me to stick with it, because it puts a smile on my face everytime i drive it. But the other side is telling me its somewhat impractical and underpowered for my tastes.

Is there any car on the market that is as light as the 86, as fun to drive as the 86, has as much power as the Bmw 335i and Audi s4 (330hp) and has four doors and 5 seats?

4 doors, 5 seats, bigger engine, and as LIGHT as the 86? those don't match at all. I say if you have the money, get another car thats practical on the side, if not, just buy some sort of used car that's for your practical use. Definitely won't be finding something like that in the market. Maybe a porsche Panamera lol

hanabie 05-10-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilsonk227 (Post 924916)
4 doors, 5 seats, bigger engine, and as LIGHT as the 86? those don't match at all. I say if you have the money, get another car thats practical on the side, if not, just buy some sort of used car that's for your practical use. Definitely won't be finding something like that in the market. Maybe a porsche Panamera lol

The additional seats and doors have added the overall weight. I second that, Porsche Panamera.

Sonolin 05-10-2013 02:38 PM

When I first made my purchase (scion fr-s, no the gt-86... we're cursed with the scion over here), I too started worrying that I made the "wrong decision" in buying this car. I was always a huge v8 lover, and was a number cruncher. I'd spend my free time trying to figure out how much faster x car would be at x track, and so on.

So, I had a little bit of a worry in the back of my mind that I made the wrong choice. After seeing all these videos of the v6 mustang beating the fr-s around the track, the focus st beating it, etc. I could feel my ego being threatened ;).

But then I figured - if I sold this car I would regret it so much later down the ride! No other car I've been in has put this huge of a smile on my face, each and every time I drive it. Who cares if its "underpowered"? Not only that, but when I pay off the car I'll be able to start putting money towards forced induction and making this car faster.

So, I guess it all comes down to - what do you want? Do you like the car? Do you see yourself enjoying the car for years to come? Do you get up on a saturday and want to take the car out for a nice drive through the canyons? Does it put a smile on your face whenever you drive ite?

I answered yes to all the above questions, and obvsiously I've resolved this car is just perfect :). I'll always have the chance to buy some beater v8 car in the future, but right now I'm just enjoying this wonderful car.

I think I'm going to go for a drive now, lol.

EDIT: If your talking about practicality - that makes sense. But it comes down to, is it livable with on a daily basis for your current lifestyle? Your girlfriend has her own gt-86, so why not just take both cars out wherever you go? That'd be driving in style :). I wish my girlfriend wanted an fr-s, I'd buy another one, LOL.

naikaidriver 05-10-2013 02:41 PM

You guys are talking into thin-air.

The OP posted in the technical section this morning about which header to buy with his current mods. Does that sounds like someone who's contemplating selling their car?

Scott

TennisHsu 05-10-2013 02:46 PM

~You've got 99 problems but the car ain't one~

ichitaka05 05-10-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naikaidriver (Post 924937)
You guys are talking into thin-air.

The OP posted in the technical section this morning about which header to buy with his current mods. Does that sounds like someone who's contemplating selling their car?

Scott

That's why we're trying to convince him to sell the car (w sarcasm voice).

TBH, every time I see these kind of thread, I try to answer that OP isn't looking to hear. 99% of the time, they have set their mind on the answer.

Tainen 05-10-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSI:86 (Post 924583)
Hi everyone,

I am seriously considering selling my Toyota 86 now.

I am currently 27, work as a court prosecutor. I was recently divorced and have a 2 yr old girl, that i share joint custody. My first car was a 1999 DC2 Honda Integra Type R that i left stock and sold for a 2004 Toyota Celica. I had that car throughout my law degree at uni for about 5 years. Did some performance mods to it. Got married a yr after that. Sold the Celica, bought a brand new BMW x5. Then i bought a Lexus is350 for myself. Got divorced. Ex wife gave birth. Ex wife got the x5 in the divorce agreement, even though i paid for it all. Sold the is350, bought a 370z. Got into another relationship with a girl that has an orange Toyota 86. Sold the 370z. Bought a white Toyota 86.

Reasons i want to sell the 86:

- Lack of power, i am used to higher powered cars
- Practicality
- Considering a bmw 335i 4 door or audi s4

Reasons i dont want to sell the 86:

- I love the looks of the car
- ITS TOO FUN TO DRIVE!
- Fuel consumption
- My partner and i make a good couple :D


Any suggestions will be very helpful.

So you buy and sell a crap ton of cars, and don't list any real reasons for most of the transactions. I know guys that haveto have a different vehicle in the garage every 6 months, and they usually end up having to pay 3-5k per transaction, just on loss of resale value, needing to do missed maintenance, taxes, licensing, etc.

If you can afford that lifestyle and it is a very high priority for you to own and enjoy so many different cars, then fine, but don't ask around on the internet about it. It's the INTERNET. Come on man.

Responses you will get:
20% "No man, teh 86 is teh best car evarrr"
60% "wut? wtf are you doing LOL?"
20% completely unintelligible posts that everyone ignores.

Honestly you're going to do whatever the hell you want anyways, so why ask?

Wilsonk227 05-10-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naikaidriver (Post 924937)
You guys are talking into thin-air.

The OP posted in the technical section this morning about which header to buy with his current mods. Does that sounds like someone who's contemplating selling their car?

Scott


hey what if he's contemplating. I mean why not multi task and find out info instead of just lagging it and waiting for one post to finish first :bonk:

supragoods 05-10-2013 03:10 PM

If you don't intend to modify your FT86 then sell it. if power is what you need get out of this car quick. buy something else ( a genesis) drive that until make a version of Ft86 that has enough power to suit your needs. then trade the the genesis for new improved FT86. And then decided that its still not enough hp trade it in. Keep in mind all sale of sports car under Toyota name further supports reason to relaunch the Supra. So continue to do your part guy!

FRSThao 05-10-2013 03:13 PM

haha! like what most ppl say on here..its up to you...regardless of power wise...you can only go so "fast" before you get into trouble with the law and everyone is bound to the speed limits. Im not much for speed...yah sure you might get to McDonalds quicker than me in your Audi/BMW but i've fell in love of how the 86/FR-S looks like. I dont want to brag too much but we've all gotten good compliments/comments such as...What is that car? That's a sexy car! The 86/FR-S still turn heads! :)

Just my two cents! :)

vangisback 05-10-2013 03:13 PM

OP, you should just E85, bolt-on, and tune your car. You've been debating with Zdan in the FRS/BRZ vs S2000 vs RX8 thread about how you can improve you trap time, etc. so I'm sure you're familiar with how much more power you can make in this car and keep it n/a.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaptorque (Post 924588)
So you're asking a bunch of 86 enthusiasts if you should sell your 86?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnk (Post 924593)
Honestly, it really doesn't matter what anyone on some forum tells you to do. You're an adult. . .decide what you want and make your own decisions based on what fits your needs/wants.

:thumbsup: Sounds like the OP is just in need of some attention. He wrote a cool story about his whole life, but his issues with the 86 boils down to what everyone already knows about the 86. I find it hard to believe that he bought the 86 and then realized that 200hp is not much.

Cyau 05-10-2013 03:43 PM

The reasons he gave had nothing to do with that long essay he wrote...


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