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Giccin 02-06-2012 12:19 AM

Where we talk about two wheeled vehicles. Motorbikes!
 
I searched every possibility on "motorbikes" through search from scooters, bicycles to harleys(?). Nothing popped.

So I decided to start one.

There have been TONS of motorcycle accidents out there (mostly due to dumbass drivers not sharing the road and paying attention) and I figured hey... why not get some quality(?) info on products.. ferrings.. different bikes etc.

My BF dropped his Honda CBR600 not too long ago when we were both riding together. It was due to the cause of a very 2 lane both ways U-turn. And for those who ride bikes... U-turns are the hardest damn things ever!

Now my bf is looking for some bitchin' S2K or Tesla Yellow and matte black ferrings. Only problem is.. the China-bro we're buying from on e-bay doesn't have it, so do any of you biker guys know where to get some quality ferrings? Racing Bars perhaps? (I know I asked you already Arnold! :P)

Aside from that...

Down the line when we get a place to live he's planning to get a Triumph Scrambler. Which in all honesty... looks badass.

Whatchu motoheads think!?

old greg 02-06-2012 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 127848)
do any of you biker guys know where to get some quality ferrings? Racing Bars perhaps?

By any chance, do you mean fairings and clip-ons? ;)

I'm a fan of SharkSkinz and Woodcraft.

Infernal 02-06-2012 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 127848)
Down the line when we get a place to live he's planning to get a Triumph Scrambler. Which in all honesty... looks badass.

Whatchu motoheads think!?

Just get the scrambler now :P or a Daytona 675 (i loved my daytona, was awesome)

what do you ride?

Giccin 02-06-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old greg (Post 127918)
By any chance, do you mean fairings and clip-ons? ;)

I'm a fan of SharkSkinz and Woodcraft.

Fairings yes! But clip-ons? I thought they've always been called racing bars. o_O

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernal (Post 127956)
Just get the scrambler now :P or a Daytona 675 (i loved my daytona, was awesome)

what do you ride?

What happened to your Daytona?

And I'm wayyy too tiny to ride. :P I passenger for a CBR600RR

old greg 02-06-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 128075)
But clip-ons? I thought they've always been called racing bars. o_O

I've never heard them referred to as such.

Dark 02-06-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 128075)
Fairings yes! But clip-ons? I thought they've always been called racing bars. o_O



What happened to your Daytona?

And I'm wayyy too tiny to ride. :P I passenger for a CBR600RR

In sport bikes, they are clip ons instead of a long bar. Dirt bikes have handle bar though.
If you're small, scooter might be good for you. :thumbup:

I plan to skip riding this season. haven't found what I should get yet, but I have my eyes on Duc Diavel for a few months now.

suprachica79 02-06-2012 05:30 PM

Do you guys think maybe she's talking about racing railz?

Dark 02-06-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by suprachica79 (Post 128300)
Do you guys think maybe she's talking about racing railz?

I have no clue man. :bellyroll:

RRnold 02-06-2012 05:32 PM

Yeah, I try and post some moto stuff here but it gets no luv! :bonk:

Momo, what year is your bf's CBR? The China stuff can be hit or miss but from the frequent posts I've seen, it boils down to "you get what you pay for". Unfortunately, aside from OEM, these are the closest alternative to an OEM fairings that are ABS plastic.

I've seen some of the guys on the Ducati forum buy the China made fairings and use them as track bodywork but not so much for race bodywork since the tech requirement requires a sealed bellypan and blocked off lights. I've seen some ABS plastic race fairings but not too much availablity for most sportbikes.

For clipons, used parts on the forums or aftermarket are your only choices. There are not too many oem type of parts and I had Woodcraft on my R6 racebike. These are more aggressive and since they are meant for a race setup, you'll have to drill the holes for the turnsignal/high beam and starter/kill switches.

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com...aft%3AClip-Ons


I hope we can have a Motorcycle specific section added sooner or later. Cars are fun in all but kind of boring compared to riding a moto.

My next ride :wub: :D

http://www.ducati.com/cms-web/fs/b95...ow_554x370.jpg

Dark 02-06-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 128302)
Yeah, I try and post some moto stuff here but it gets no luv! :bonk:

Momo, what year is your bf's CBR? The China stuff can be hit or miss but from the frequent posts I've seen, it boils down to "you get what you pay for". Unfortunately, aside from OEM, these are the closest alternative to an OEM fairings that are ABS plastic.

I've seen some of the guys on the Ducati forum buy the China made fairings and use them as track bodywork but not so much for race bodywork since the tech requirement requires a sealed bellypan and blocked off lights. I've seen some ABS plastic race fairings but not too much availablity for most sportbikes.

For clipons, used parts on the forums or aftermarket are your only choices. There are not too many oem type of parts and I had Woodcraft on my R6 racebike. These are more aggressive and since they are meant for a race setup, you'll have to drill the holes for the turnsignal/high beam and starter/kill switches.

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com...aft%3AClip-Ons


I hope we can have a Motorcycle specific section added sooner or later. Cars are fun in all but kind of boring compared to riding a moto.

My next ride :wub: :D

http://www.ducati.com/cms-web/fs/b95...ow_554x370.jpg

So you're going with Duc 1199 Panigale?
I love the bike, it's absolutely pure sex on two wheels. I couldn't believe Duc came up with a better design than 848/1098/1198. I just think that I will go with naked bike this time.

Infernal 02-06-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 128075)
What happened to your Daytona?

And I'm wayyy too tiny to ride. :P I passenger for a CBR600RR

I sold it to buy a new car - my car at the time was staring to require some pain in the ass work to it so i got rid for my old MS6 - got tired of that for my BMW, and now i want a bike again!

I'm torn between a GSXR 750, MV Agusta F3, 2012 KTM Duke 690, Daytona 675R, or a Triumph Thunderbird Storm

i'm sure you could fit on a ninja 250 or similar? suzuki gladius?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 128302)
I hope we can have a Motorcycle specific section added sooner or later. Cars are fun in all but kind of boring compared to riding a moto.

My next ride :wub: :D

http://www.ducati.com/cms-web/fs/b95...ow_554x370.jpg

a moto section would be cool -especially with the motoGP season coming up, stoners time's are crazy already, but i heard that the hondas are using too much fuel to be able to get them around a full race :X

the panigale is awesome - there has been rumors of a new 750 using the testaressa? (cant remember the technology name) to replace the 848

zoomzoomers 02-06-2012 06:15 PM

If I were in the mkt for a streetbike my money would go to a Ninja ZX-6 or a GSX-R 750. I'd lean more towards 750. But in all honesty, I haven't rode regularly in so many years I'd probably scare myself. :bellyroll:

zoomzoomers 02-06-2012 06:15 PM

BTW, that Duc 1198 IS purse sex on wheels!!! :thumbup:

RRnold 02-06-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark (Post 128317)
So you're going with Duc 1199 Panigale?
I love the bike, it's absolutely pure sex on two wheels. I couldn't believe Duc came up with a better design than 848/1098/1198. I just think that I will go with naked bike this time.

I saw the Panigale at the Long Beach Motorcycle show and compared to my 1098/1198/848 design, the Panigale looked like a supermodel and the 1198/848 looked like the girl next door. I too was suprised that Ducati has set the bar this high.

I only have the 1098 and plan on getting the Panigale later on since I learned my lesson by waiting impatiently for the 1098. The following season, FIM approved 1200cc for twins and out came the 1198. SMH!!
The gf gave the thumbs up as long as I take her for a ride up PCH and stop for a bite to eat at one of the local restaurants facing the beach.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernal (Post 128322)
I sold it to buy a new car - my car at the time was staring to require some pain in the ass work to it so i got rid for my old MS6 - got tired of that for my BMW, and now i want a bike again!

I'm torn between a GSXR 750, MV Agusta F3, 2012 KTM Duke 690, Daytona 675R, or a Triumph Thunderbird Storm

i'm sure you could fit on a ninja 250 or similar? suzuki gladius?

a moto section would be cool -especially with the motoGP season coming up, stoners time's are crazy already, but i heard that the hondas are using too much fuel to be able to get them around a full race :X

the panigale is awesome - there has been rumors of a new 750 using the testaressa? (cant remember the technology name) to replace the 848

Dude, F3!!! :party0030:
I love Japanese bikes but there is something about those Italians! :wub:

http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog...vagusta_25.jpg

Are you talking about the Testastretta Evoluzione or something newer for the 848?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 128336)
If I were in the mkt for a streetbike my money would go to a Ninja ZX-6 or a GSX-R 750. I'd lean more towards 750. But in all honesty, I haven't rode regularly in so many years I'd probably scare myself. :bellyroll:

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 128337)
BTW, that Duc 1198 IS purse sex on wheels!!! :thumbup:

What happened to the ZX6/ZX10, Zooks and CBR1000RR. They are so ugly now and only the R1/R6 seem to be the decent looking out of the bunch.



Momo, were clipons the part you were looking for were you looking into frame sliders n bar ends?

Frame sliders
http://www.cbr600rr.com/pages/reviews/yoyo/DSCF0005.JPG

Bar end sliders
http://www.ascycles.com/images/produ...00R_K1300S.jpg

Dark 02-06-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 128371)
I saw the Panigale at the Long Beach Motorcycle show and compared to my 1098/1198/848 design, the Panigale looked like a supermodel and my 1198/848 looked like the girl next door.

I only have the 1098 and plan on getting the Panigale later on since I learned my lesson by waiting impatiently for the 1098. The following season, FIM approved 1200cc for twins and out came the 1198. SMH!!
The gf gave the thumbs up as long as I take her for a ride up PCH and stop for a bite to eat at one of the local restaurants facing the beach.

Dude, F3!!! :party0030:
I love Japanese bikes but there is something about those Italians! :wub:

http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog...vagusta_25.jpg

Are you talking about the Testastretta Evoluzione or something newer for the 848?

F3 is hot, I would hit it if I'm on the market for middle weight. :D
Japanese bikes are great, absolutely great, but they lack of "sex" sense in the design. Yamaha managed to make their bikes look fast and aggressive, that's a plus. Though, If I have more disposable income, I would get S1000R before I get one of Japanese bikes. I just like the way BMW make hate-it or love-it design because if you don't have haters, you're doing it wrong. :lol:

RRnold 02-06-2012 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark (Post 128386)
F3 is hot, I would hit it if I'm on the market for middle weight. :D
Japanese bikes are great, absolutely great, but they lack of "sex" sense in the design. Yamaha managed to make their bikes look fast and aggressive, that's a plus. Though, If I have more disposable income, I would get S1000R before I get one of Japanese bikes. I just like the way BMW make hate-it or love-it design because if you don't have haters, you're doing it wrong. :lol:

Yeah, I absoutely agree, the Italians design some really sexy bikes. But to be honest, coming from a '95 900RR, '01 R1, '05 ZX6RR, '06 R6 then to a Ducati, I've got to admit, the 1098 is a pain in the ass to work on.

The dealer quote me $900 for a 7500 mile service so I downloaded the manual and did it myself.

I like the S1000RR when it first came out and glad to see BMW finally make a full sportbike. It's a beast but the exterior got old and bland really quick; especially those side gills. I think it's due for an update.

Dark 02-06-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 128398)
Yeah, I absoutely agree, the Italians design some really sexy bikes. But to be honest, coming from a '95 900RR, '01 R1, '05 ZX6RR, '06 R6 then to a Ducati, I've got to admit, the 1098 is a pain in the ass to work on.

The dealer quote me $900 for a 7500 mile service so I downloaded the manual and did it myself.

I like the S1000RR when it first came out and glad to see BMW finally make a full sportbike. It's a beast but the exterior got old and bland really quick; especially those side gills. I think it's due for an update.

Yup, the side grill is not really good, but I like to overall design. Heard that Panigale is going to be more powerful and lighter than S1000RR. This year bike shootout is going to be interesting.

Giccin 02-06-2012 08:00 PM

@RRnold yea!

I was always told they were called racing bars. Lol Because some of them actually extend out into the body. (still super noob in motorbikes. But pro on passenger-ing)

His bike is also an 09'. He's thinking of getting the Triumph Scrambler though. :)

RRnold 02-06-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark (Post 128422)
Yup, the side grill is not really good, but I like to overall design. Heard that Panigale is going to be more powerful and lighter than S1000RR. This year bike shootout is going to be interesting.

Just when we've seen it all with a liter bike capable of doing 200mph with slight mods, now we have a frameless bike that is lighter and more powerful than a S1000RR. This is truely amazing and the reason why I love motorcycles. :party0030:

Only those who ride, know the feeling. :happy0180:

MiguelAE86 02-06-2012 08:08 PM

Does anyone here know what this is? :popcorn:

http://images.canadianlisted.com/nla...ur_5123734.jpg

RRnold 02-06-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MiguelAE86 (Post 128436)
Does anyone here know what this is? :popcorn:

http://images.canadianlisted.com/nla...ur_5123734.jpg

'84 VF500 Interceptor

zoomzoomers 02-06-2012 08:46 PM

I forget the exact model year, but I was in love with a VFR700 back in the day. They make some beautiful sounds with the gear driven heads. Man this thread is taking me back. :D

zoomzoomers 02-06-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 128434)
Just when we've seen it all with a liter bike capable of doing 200mph with slight mods, now we have a frameless bike that is lighter and more powerful than a S1000RR. This is truely amazing and the reason why I love motorcycles. :party0030:

Only those who ride, know the feeling. :happy0180:

Right on! :party0030:

Now I wish I had a bike again. :( :bonk:

serialk11r 02-06-2012 08:50 PM

200mph? :OOO
Has anyone tried to streamline their bike and hit say, 300? lol

zoomzoomers 02-06-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 128484)
200mph? :OOO
Has anyone tried to streamline their bike and hit say, 300? lol

Well most of those rockets "cars" that have broken the sound barrier/etc. have bike like tires. At those speeds more tire means more friction. You can almost say they're like a rocket with bikes wheels/tires on them.

serialk11r 02-06-2012 08:55 PM

No I'm talking just a bike. I know typical bikes have pretty high aerodynamic drag, it's pretty easy to cut the drag by a factor of say, 3-4. Since a bike is so small you could hit Bugatti Veyron speeds with bike engine power.

zoomzoomers 02-06-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 128492)
No I'm talking just a bike. I know typical bikes have pretty high aerodynamic drag, it's pretty easy to cut the drag by a factor of say, 3-4. Since a bike is so small you could hit Bugatti Veyron speeds with bike engine power.

Oh ok. Well bikes have much less frontal mass than most cars, but they probably have higher cd's. Unless, of course, they use those egg shell fairings that wrap entirely around the bike and rider.

serialk11r 02-06-2012 08:59 PM

Yah that's what I'm talking about. Getting any sort of car to do 300 is nearly impossible but on a bike it's actually pretty well within reach if you have a relatively powerful bike.

zoomzoomers 02-06-2012 09:05 PM

I remember that a few car mags did comparos between cars and bikes in the past. Obviuosly, cars have better traction and able to handle better, but the bikes had an advange on certain tracks and, of course, bikes have better acceleration than cars up to a certain point. In the end though, most sports cars, given enough ground, would catch most bikes. Even the most powerful ones. Due to the incredible power to weight ratios on most, if not all, bikes bikes have the advantage in acceleration, but bikes can handle only so much power because after awhile it just can't put the power down.

Dark 02-07-2012 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 128504)
I remember that a few car mags did comparos between cars and bikes in the past. Obviuosly, cars have better traction and able to handle better, but the bikes had an advange on certain tracks and, of course, bikes have better acceleration than cars up to a certain point. In the end though, most sports cars, given enough ground, would catch most bikes. Even the most powerful ones. Due to the incredible power to weight ratios on most, if not all, bikes bikes have the advantage in acceleration, but bikes can handle only so much power because after awhile it just can't put the power down.

Yup, with comparable power, bikes will leave cars in the dust from the start to about 125mph. However, it's not the point of riding a bike. Kneedrag FTW. :D

old greg 02-07-2012 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 128484)
200mph? :OOO
Has anyone tried to streamline their bike and hit say, 300? lol

Yes. Bill Warner, 311.94 mph on what is still recognizably a motorcycle.

http://motorride.net/wp-content/uplo...Motorcycle.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 128499)
Getting any sort of car to do 300 is nearly impossible but on a bike it's actually pretty well within reach if you have a relatively powerful bike.

Sure it is... If you consider $160,000 "within reach" and 1000hp "relatively powerful". :slap: :D

PS: No one else is even close to matching that speed with a sit-on motorcycle. Seriously, that bike is in a different f'ing league. 300 mph is no joke, no matter what you are trying to get there in.

00NissanNinja 02-07-2012 01:49 AM

Gonna need a lot of power to overcome drag just to hit 300 mph even on a bike.
I want to go to the track dammit snow, dammit...

serialk11r 02-07-2012 02:00 AM

He could've added spoilers in front of the tires to cut drag in an easier way though! But...
Okay I'll shut up :bellyroll:

RRnold 02-07-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 128430)
@RRnold yea!

I was always told they were called racing bars. Lol Because some of them actually extend out into the body. (still super noob in motorbikes. But pro on passenger-ing)

His bike is also an 09'. He's thinking of getting the Triumph Scrambler though. :)

No worries, there is so much different terminology for bikes. I've only heard "racing bars" for mtn and ol skool bmx bikes.

Nice choice with a Scrambler!! Does he plan to turn it into a Cafe racer?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 128479)
Right on! :party0030:

Now I wish I had a bike again. :( :bonk:

With the downed economy, I've seen a lot of good deals on motos. Unfortunately, a few local motorcycle dealerships closed and one major motorcycle racing club shut down (WSMC).

http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=47202

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 128504)
I remember that a few car mags did comparos between cars and bikes in the past. Obviuosly, cars have better traction and able to handle better, but the bikes had an advange on certain tracks and, of course, bikes have better acceleration than cars up to a certain point. In the end though, most sports cars, given enough ground, would catch most bikes. Even the most powerful ones. Due to the incredible power to weight ratios on most, if not all, bikes bikes have the advantage in acceleration, but bikes can handle only so much power because after awhile it just can't put the power down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark (Post 128693)
Yup, with comparable power, bikes will leave cars in the dust from the start to about 125mph. However, it's not the point of riding a bike. Kneedrag FTW. :D

That's one thing I've never understood is the whole car vs motorcycle comparisons. They are 2 completely different variables and will never have an even matchup. There is a lot more involvement to not only ride a moto but to ride a moto fast.

Dimman 02-07-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old greg (Post 128708)
Yes. Bill Warner, 311.94 mph on what is still recognizably a motorcycle.

http://motorride.net/wp-content/uplo...Motorcycle.jpg




Sure it is... If you consider $160,000 "within reach" and 1000hp "relatively powerful". :slap: :D

PS: No one else is even close to matching that speed with a sit-on motorcycle. Seriously, that bike is in a different f'ing league. 300 mph is no joke, no matter what you are trying to get there in.

Are his giant balls hidden inside the aerodynamic fairing? Insane...

zoomzoomers 02-07-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00NissanNinja (Post 128709)
Gonna need a lot of power to overcome drag just to hit 300 mph even on a bike.
I want to go to the track dammit snow, dammit...

Forget about drag! It's a challenge not to get airborne at those speeds. LOL

00NissanNinja 02-08-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 129052)
Forget about drag! It's a challenge not to get airborne at those speeds. LOL

Lmao that is true

meWant 02-08-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers (Post 129052)
Forget about drag! It's a challenge not to get airborne at those speeds. LOL

+1 lol

but on a side note, i do plan on getting a ninja 250R as a first bike. just have to get my moto license now

Giccin 02-09-2012 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meWant (Post 129937)
+1 lol

but on a side note, i do plan on getting a ninja 250R as a first bike. just have to get my moto license now

I hear its a super nimble bike. :)

switchlanez 02-09-2012 02:34 AM

^Addictively nimble. D:


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