Kreissieg Exhaust For FT-86
 

Hey guys,

I'm new here and would like to introduce myself. I'm Kevin from Hong Kong and I just completed my full TRD FT-86 about a month ago (Pictures will be available soon).

I recently went on a drive with a bunch of my friends and was amazed by an exhaust system one of my friends bought for his LP-560-4 by Kreissieg. For those who don't know know Kreissieg, they are a company who make high quality F1 sounding exhaust systems for high end vehicles.

Anyways, I contacted them and asked whether they would make a one-off system for my FT-86. After a few days they emailed me back and said that it was possible but it would cost around 4500 USD (Approx. 35,000 HKD). In comparison, the exhaust system my friend bought cost 7000 USD.

I've been contemplating for quite a few days because I've always wanted to keep my FT-86 a full TRD one. But the sound Kreissieg makes is just orgasmic. Any opinions/ideas are welcome. Thank you very much for your help guys!

If you have the money, why are you even debating this decision? This is a no-brainer. Just be sure to post vids when you get it.

The sound they get out of an exotic car is not going to translate to the 86 imho. But id love to hear what they come up with

Thanks for your opinion guys. I understand that theres no way a 86 will sound as amazing as those exotic cars. But yeah I am very curious too...too bad they won't have a youtube clip of the exhaust note anytime soon. And I'm worried that the exhaust note will be a bit too exaggerated for a car like this if you guys know what I mean.

since when GT86 has turned to FT86? I thought that was the concept name.

Don't expect a great sound, this is a Flat 4, the more exotic sounds we chase after are big V8 and V12 engines that have quite a few more liters.


4K? For an exhaust, hey man its your car but do be reminded this car in the US is about 25k. 4K spent on only an exhaust for a cheap sports car? Sounds kinda pointless to me.


If you wanna hear a company that makes exhausts for exotic cars that were fitted on to our car, then check our Supersprint, most likely the closet you can go to that "exotic" sound.

yeah lol.. sounds loud, but does not run as fast as top tier sport cars. lol

Could not agree more. That exhaust note of exotics is not only the result of 8 or 12 cylinders, but also stratospheric redlines (8500-9000 rpm redlines). That sound will be nearly impossible to achieve with the FA20, no matter who is making the exhaust.

You just need to watch the video on you tube of their exhaust installed onto the Lotus Elise and Exige to hear what a 4 cylinders car sound like with their exhaust. The sound is not that much different than any other aftermarket exhaust maker I heard till now.

There is no way to explain such a higher price for the difference you will get out of it.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5b8HL5JEKY"]ECHAPPEMENT INOX LOTUS ELISE VALVETRONIC F1-SOUND KREISSIEG - YouTube[/ame]

What. You must not have heard many exhausts. Brands like Kreissieg, Saclam, and Akrapovič sound a million times better than 98% of regular (affordable) brand name exhausts out there mainly because they're sound engineers too, not just welders. They're not in the business to "sell an exhaust." They're selling a uniquely crafted sound.

Also, $4K because handmade for each car and titanium.

It's called Ft-86 over here in Asia. Gt-86 is their European designation and frs is the North American one I believe.

No, it is still GT86 in Hong Kong.

FT86 was ONLY the concept. Never production.

$7,000 exhaust on a $200,000+ car is not unreasonable, I suppose.
$4,500 exhaust on a $25,000 car IS unreasonable. Spend that money on a turbo kit and make it more than a noise maker.

Really? I thought that Euro/Asia had the same designation... That's pretty interesting.

Thanks Ro_Ja for the explanation. Essentially what 4k is getting me is exclusivity and a unique sound as nobody has gotten such a premium exhaust for the 86 yet. I understand that the engine for this car will never sound like a Ferrari, Maserati or Lamborghini. The "cheapest" car they made an exhaust for is the Volkswagen R32. Which cost around the same price. Over here in hk the 86 cost a bit over 50k USD, double that of US. And I'm planning to keep this car for a very long time, unless the new possible KERS system variant of the 86 turns out to be godlike and the system can't be retrofitted to existing cars.

Here is the link for the Volkswagen R32 Kreisseig exhaust note.

http://youtube.com/results?q=kreissi...?v=nsUNkljdRSA

Kreissieg :thumbup::drool:

about time some big exhaust company outhere making this kinda sound for our twins .

I heard a couple setups in person from friends car , it's AWESOME !

I also wonder if company such eisenmann or meisterschft would build a system for us as well

if you have the money i don't see why not... I'm curious as to how it will sound as well

just get it.. in our country cars like 86 (FR-S) and BRZ costs a stratospheric price tag (mine is around 70000 USD = 630 million IDR) so getting a 4.5k exhaust is not much for you (but not me...)

and also i was asking them too because they have a dealer here.. but i'm sure i can't afford it.. its just too much..

The dealer here is selling the car as Toyota 86.
However I got the vehicle registration card from them showing FT-86 :iono:

Anyway, back to topic. Get the exhaust please! I would like to hear F1 sound coming from the car !

Far be it from me to tell someone with the means to not spend $4000USD on an exhaust.

Just please, please, please share a video with us when its installed!

BTW, since you're in HK, would you happen to know if Bull Dogs or The Kangaroo Pub is still open in Kowloon? They used to be some of my regular hangouts in HK in a "previous life" many years ago!

Scott

Doesn't matter what you buy, you will not get the sound of a high revving V8 or V10 or V12. Also it's not only about the number of cylinder, a Lambo V10 will sound more exotic than the V10 found in the M5 because the Lambo is mid engine, the exhaust pipes are short and it has sound that only a mid or rear engine can produce

Well if that golf r32 can produce that kinda sound with the kressieg , I'm pretty sure they can make it happen for our twin .

Maybe we can do a group buy ?? :)
@dokterdewe, where in Indo are you ? I was born in Jakarta :)

Wow....just wow!

theres more to it then that, but ya

the vw vr motor is one of the best sounding engines in a car under <$100k ever made. I comes the the extremely narrow 15* angle on the V setup resulting in a single head, almost like a an inline 6 but offset. this offset results in the exhaust runners in the head being a different length on 3 cylinders. Needless to say, it always sounds beautiful

no im not biased:D

R32 makes beautiful music.

i live far away from Jakarta.. about 800 km to the East... i live near Surabaya - Jawa Timur (East Java)

i would be much interested if a Kreissieg made FA20 sound like a growling GT3RS :D

$4k? So basically makes it sound "better", costs about 1/5th of the car, and probably makes the same hp as other applications? Yep, I see the logic there.

you missed the part where he said what the car actually cost there

Ok, ok...tell me what is the first question that you see people asking on different exhaust posts? Yes, "how does it sound?". Yes, some would pay extra to have super sounding exhaust...and most of us do that already by getting catbacks that adds fck all power (3-5 hp) without a tune.
\Here is a picture of the R32 exhaust:
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/w...sieg_R32_4.jpg

And this is for Porsche (it looks similar to 86 set up

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/w...veexhaust1.jpg

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neHlvKo5xQo&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]⑧TOYOTA 86 Exhaust sound マフラー音 W-tail / 四本出 (Kreissieg) - YouTube[/ame]


Cost is 3300 usd plus shipping

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Off topic, but its from the same company, and this sounds so good.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-GF_v8CADY&feature=c4-overview&list=UURjmy0J7x7VYj_k_wByF8fw"]â‘*Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 Exhaust sound マフラー音 (Kreissieg) - YouTube[/ame]

F430, 360, or 458 all sound great

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And this is for Porsche (it looks similar to 86 set up

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/w...veexhaust1.jpg[/QUOTE]

What porsche is this for?

Probably a Panamera

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Oh... Right.. I guess id finally pushed that hideous car out of my memory when i tried to think of a front engined current porsche model