Embarrassment! Need more low end HP!
 

I was on a back highway road today and came up on an old Grand Prix going 45 in a 55. We approached a stopped light, so casually got in the left lane to go around this person who didn't observe the speed limit. The car was dilapidated and this douche saw my car and took the opportunity to floor it and try to give me a run for my money, needless to say, I wasn't prepared and his POS stayed half a car length in front of me the whole 100 yards until the lane ended. I was frustrated!!!!!!! Why would you drive like a grandma to then try and prove a point, just the price you pay to drive such a nice car........

Anyway, we all need more low end power to put a stop to these stop light revs and sudden speed racers. I've only added a unichip to my car, but needless to say after tonight, I'm seriously looking at some upgrades to put a quick end to this, or an eventual end. What have you guys done to get increases in torque and whp?

you mean torque? oh.. god.. another one of these stories

STREET RACING IS ILLEGAL. YOU'RE GOIN TO JAIL.

Welcome to the forums where modifications are 70% of all posts...

I get smoked by minivans and shit, not a big deal.

Wasn't street racing just trying to pass and the guy had to prove a point that left the frs looking like 💩!

This car needs more power and as beautiful as it is and as sporty as looks someone has to take a stand and get off the line fast enough to pass these jerks. I was thinking of getting a Perrin pulley, flywheel, CF crankshaft, and Injen short ram to get some extra pep, but was wondering if any of you had opinions or experiences on better upgrades to get more torque/whp freed up? :burnrubber:

FI.. strong username to post ratio BTW. lol.

Just got my FRS in March and have been reading, scanning and researching, never been much of a poster even when I was on RX8club.com.

Our cars are not that fast. They never will be without lots of parts and money. They are, however, some of the most fun you can have while still getting 25-30mpg in a car that looks like it costs twice as much.

I don't care what you're driving, sooner or later you'll come up to something that will smoke you in a straight line 100 yd. sprint. It could've been worse, like a worked Dodge Cummins pickup that would literally smoke you.

inovate....

The car is what it is. More power would have equaled more weight and cost more money. I'm sure you knew it only had so much torque and horsepower before buying it, so why complain about it afterwards.

and stop racing on the straightways that just gives the rest of FRS owners a bad name.

Get an e85 tune, delete the exhaust, put on a perrin cold air intake and lighten up the rotational masses. That'll pull like hell and will sound GREAT

Vortech Supercharger

It makes a HUGE difference, even pushing 3 PSI.

No we don't, YOU do... I cruise and try to look good while keeping my car in pristine condition instead of being all 2fast2furious 2edgy4u

Also, I don't mean to shit on your thread and don't take it the wrong way... but this car wasn't designed to be an all-murrican stop light hero. If you're using it for dragging on the streets then you should have just bought a cheap mustang wit dem SICK MAWDZ YO while living your life quarter mile at a time.

Always be prepared, expect the unexpected and remember to always be nice.

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Btw change your air filter to something like K&N, throttle response will greatly improve.

Put cocaine in the gas tank...it will surely give it a nice kick

Staying on topic here. Air intake and exhuast is a start.

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Sorry, couldn't help myself.

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I am far from the person keeping this car in pristine condition. Its a cheap car and I treat it like one. On the other hand I get what you are saying with this car was not meant for speed. I autoX and track mine and they are not the fastest cars out there but they are a lot of fun.

These cars are way to much fun to be out playing look who's willy is bigger at the stop lights. Just go have some fun power sliding and drifting around some corners on the track or murdering cones on the AutoX course. Trust me you are never going to fully enjoy this car on a public road or a parking lot I thought I was until I started taking it to events and now I drive like a grandma on the road because I know the car can never reach it's potential in that setting.

Fixed.

If spending thousands of dollars to alleviate whatever imaginary humiliation you believe attendant upon the outcome of this situation seems like a good idea then you need some new ideas.

At least I can beat those Priuses... barely...

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It's called baiting. If someone is driving below the limit when you are behind, there's a strong chance they will floor it when you pass. They're just trying to set you up because they've heard it's under powered.
I get it all the time and choose the right gear so i'm ready and haven't been hung out to dry yet.

They are cruising at 90kph in a 110 limit. I use 4th and go to 130+ and they are up my clacker when I get back down near 110. Case closed.
Hopefully they will report those 86/FRS/BRZ's go better than they reckon they do in the magazines.

dude, just dop in a turbo and call it a day BUT, there will ALWAYS be someone faster

A Grand Am from anywhere within the last decade (or two) can come with a 3.1L V6 with oodles more torque than you. They have plenty of torque to keep up/pull away from an FRS at anything below double the speed limit

If he was an enthusiast, he might even swap in the GM L67 supercharged 3.8L V6 from other cars that share the same chassis.

Even in a heavy car like that they run high 14's with nothing done to them, and when you start to do pulley swap/supporting mods they can get into the 13's

Lead them off onto a curvy road and let them try and keep up.

I'm still surprised by people who missed that this car isn't a horse power terror. You read about this car before you bought it right? You should fully be aware that straight line speed was never the point. The one caveat i would have with this is if you always planned to stick a turbo on, but it seems like that isn't the case.

Oh the horror... maybe its time to trade up to a two decade old grand am so you can beat
the twins at stop lights.. Im sure the grand am driver would have happily swapped cars if you asked him to..

I owned a 2000 Grand Am GT with the 3.4 L and despite the FR-S being 300 lbs lighter, the Grand Am has more than 50 lb-ft torque advantage (albeit a 25 hp disadvantage). All summed up, it could give many a run for their money.

However, the OP had to contend with a Grand Prix. Not sure what level of Trim, but, if it was the base grade and you couldn't beat him, you were likely in the wrong gear. Yeah, I know it has 195 lb-ft of torque, but, 600 lbs is a lot of weight to overcome. If it was the GT, it has enough to make it pretty hard for you to just pull away from him. The GTP, you wouldn't stand a chance in a straightaway. That bad boy is packing 280 hp and 240 lb-ft of torque with its supercharger on full blow (I've test driven one, and the power just knocks you back in your seat).

Downshift. My "torquey" MKV GTI was a dog when just mashing the pedal when I was in too high of a gear.

I had a total stranger ask me about the car and that was one of the first things I said to him. The FR-S is no slouch, but, it is a drivers car above all else. You want cheap power, get a Mustang.

Yeah, I got beat by a Cobalt SS the other day. I'm sure it made his day but I wasn't surprised. Afterall, the Cobalt was about 100lbs lighter with sixty more horses. Had I been in the right gear I don't think it would have been a foregone conclusion (but I was balancing my giant smoothie in one hand around a corner, so I couldn't downshift to second :bonk: ).

That being said - I'm also not driving a Chevy Cobalt, so I win anyway. :thumbup:

In the end, there will ALWAYS be someone faster. You could be driving a Veyron and still get beat off the line in a short enough distance. If it's really important to you, then you just need to always be ready and launch right every time. For me personally, that seems like a lot of work.

Please dont street race, or post on public forums. All your doing is calling the cops attention to our cars and the forum.

After he "beat" you did he slow back down to 45?

Downshift to pass, like to third.

Well, to expand on the story, we weren't street racing. It was approaching a green light at maybe five over the speed limit followed by a left onto an access road and then an on ramp, so he just beat me to seventy (which was the speed limit on the highway on to which we were entering). I left it in third for the corner (due to the aforementioned smoothie) which gave him just enough time to make the pass once we came onto the straight since I was out of the power band.

More low-end torque would have helped, but it's not the car's fault I had it in the wrong gear.

Sorry to say dude, but you bought the wrong car. If you want to win
stop light races then buy a Mustang GT or Camaro SS. Believe it or not
the 86 can be outdone by a Dodge Caravan in a straight line. The best way
to embarrass "racers" is to take the scenic route and watch their cars
spend quality time with guard rails. But if you do find yourself in that situation
where you're expecting some tool to floor it, just build the revs to ~4500
and drop that clutch.

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Warning: this review is riddled with douche but facts are facts.