Vortech Owner Thread & Setup Questions
 

Since there are many of us now running the vortech kit, I figured i'd make a single thread linking to others personal vortech threads. It would be nice to post videos, whp, and also be able to ask questions in relation to the kit and be able to discuss it with others who are also running the kit. Such as general questions like has anybody upgraded their clutch? What gauge setup are you running? etc.

All builds listed are using the new upgraded compressor.

Red Alert
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33524
Fortune Auto 500 Coilovers
Staggered 18" Rota MXR wheels
245/40 rear tires
Vortech Supercharger Kit. Updated version.
3.48 inch. pulley pushing 11ish psi
Visconti Tuned for 93 octane (2 maps)
Borla UEL Header
Perrin overpipe
Perrin catted front pipe
Borla exhaust
Mushimoto CF oil catch can
Stock clutch
Stock fuel injectors
Stock fuel pump
Defi boost gauge
OBD2 Bluetooth Adapter sending info to
Nexus 7 running Torque for gauges
Videos including 0-100 pull and 0-60

Phasetek
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30008
247whp 194wtq (93oct)
252whp 201wtq (93oct)
252whp 196wtq (93oct)

Charged86
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33232
Visconti Tuned
Perrin Crank Pulley
Whiteline subframe inserts + trans mount
Eibach 1 in lower
Deutchswerks 65c pump
Vortech supercharger kit. Updated version
9psi Pulley
Motiv overpipe
Invidia catless front pipe
Invidia q300 stainless

ReyRuiz191
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34135
300whp 216wtq (E85 at 9psi)
Perrin Catback Exhaust
Revworks Header
Ecutek Dyno Tune by JMS Racing
D3PE Catch Can
AEM Digital Boost Gauge
AEM Uego Wideband AFR Gauge
Megan Racing Street Series Coilovers
Tire's 255/35/18

Skatery1989
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34171
365whp 261wtq (E85 at 12.5psi)
Perrin Non Resonated Non Catted Header Back
Perrin Overpipe
Perrin Oil Cooler

Congiiee
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33024
236whp 166wtq
Stock Car (Other than the Vortech Kit)

Msile
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35025
253whp 193wtq
CF Drive shaft
HKS Legamax Catback
Nameless Downpipe
Wheels and Tires (lighter than stock)
Rotors and Calipers (lighter than stock)
Lightweight Perrin Pulley

Draggin_AZ
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37034
93 octane and no other mods

Foobar
GrimmSpeed Hood Struts
Perrin Lightweight Crank Pulley
Perrin Non-Resonated Catback
Perrin High-Performance Catted Frontpipe
Perrin Overpipe
Vortech Stage 1 Supercharger Kit
Visconti ECUTek Vortech Supercharger Tune
Whiteline Positive Shift Kit
Visconti ECUTek Tune (deprecated by supercharger tune)
Perrin ECUTek Tune (deprecated by supercharger tune)
AFe/Takeda Momentum Stage 2 Cold Air Intake (deprecated by supercharger)
215/45-17 Blizzak LM60 Winter Performance Tires on Stock Rims
235/40R17 / 245/40R17 Yokohama S.Drive Summer Performance Tires on 17x8+42/17x9+35 WedsSport TC105N's
Muteki Tuner Lug Nuts

FT86Me
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37760
Visconti Vortech STG 1 kit VISCONTI TUNED
Perrin oil cooler
Koyorad upgraded radiator
stock injectors
stock clutch
ark catback 2.5"
ark test pipe 2.5"
KW v3
whiteline camber bolts up front
work emotion 18x8.5, 18x9.5
cusco front strut tower bar
cusco rear strut tower bar
cusco front lower arm
cusco powerbrace front member
cusco powerbrace rear member side
cusco powerbrace rear end
cusco powerbrace rear member
cusco brake cylinder stopper
cusco front sway bar
cusco rear sway bar
cusco rear pillowball lateral link
cusco engine powerbrace (in box going on in a week)
cusco oil filter
6000k hid
yellow drl
nitto nt05 245
beatsonic sharkfin
led package
seibon carbon rear seat delete
t1r mirrors
trd spoiler
crystal eye led tail lights
LED package

upcoming mods in box and ready to install:
sparco wheel
nrg quick release
bell hub
vortex lip kit
greddy carbon hood prop
goodridge brake lines
winmax brake pads
motul brake fluid

V1RU5
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37535
Parts ordered:
* Visconti Vortech STG1

Wonderbar
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37539
247whp 196wtq
Vortech standard kit (9psi)
Perrin tune
Perrin 2.5" catted/resonated header back
Perrin crank pulley
other mods won't affect hp
still on stock tires

Dezoris
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...d=1#post973692
Exterior
3M 35% Tint
HID Powerhouse 6000k DRL
HID Powerhouse 5000k Euro Concept HID
HID Powerhouse LED Plate Lights
Quick Wheel Swap Tools
OEM Mud Guards
S240 Badge
Interior
Nexus 7 Tablet and Custom Head Unit Install
ELA Touch Screen Interface
HID Powerhouse Custom 3000k LED Dome Light
Lathewerks Stainless Steel Spherical Shift Knob Gunmetal Finish
JPM Coachwerks Shift Boot
JPM Coachwerks Dash Pod
Imprezza Trunk Liner
JPM Coachwerks Custom Dash Piece for Nexus 7
Fluids
Motul 75W90 Diff Fluid
Pentosin 85 Manual Trans Fluid
Redline 0w20 Motor Oil | 500-10k Miles
Redline 0w20 Motor Oil | 500-10k Miles
Engine
Radium Dual Catch Cans
Koyo Radiator
Vortech Supercharger
Perrin Oil Cooler
Perrin Tune Waiting for Fixes
Perrin Headerback Exhaust
Suspension
Hankook RS3
Bridgestone Blizzak WS70
SPC Front Camber Bolts
Whiteline Rear UCA Eccentric Bushings
Custom Alignment
Whiteline Rear Subframe Bushings
Strano Parts Front Sway Bar
Brakes
Street | Project Mu 800HC+
Track | Carbotech XP10
DBA 4000 Front Rotors
StopTech Slotted Rear
Project Mu Brake Fluid
Spiegler Stainless Lines
Whiteline Rear Subframe Bushings

Adeets
263whp 198wtq
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37818
Perrin light weight crank pully
PST carbon fiber drive shaft
Borla UEL (Shitty to be replaced)
Perrin Cat back (heavy to be replaced)
May 28th 263 HP dyno
-June 10th install
D3 catch can
Full blown radiator fit ment
290 fuel pump
500cc port injectors
(New tune/dyno)

diirk
2013 SWP BRZ Premium
Pinnacle Tint
ISC Coil-Overs
StopTech Brake Pads
Rota Titans 17x9 +42
Ventus V12 245/40-17
TopSpeed Cat-back Exhaust
Vortech Complete System
OEM Mud Flaps
Bluebatmobile Reverse Light Overlay
Spyder 2 Tail lights

Tye300
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20088
Toyota GT86 TRD AT
Vortech Tuner Kit
57xtreme
Revworks Header
BC Coils on Swift Springs

BenArmstrong
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30502
Engine:
Vortech Supercharger Kit
Perrin Lightweight Crank Pulley
Perrin Engine Oil Cooler
AVO Air/Oil Separator
Exhaust:
HKS Equal Length, Catted Header
HKS Catless, Stainless Front Pipe
HKS Spec-L System
Perrin Overpipe

Huehuecoyotl (user banned but the thread contains some good info)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30280

These are the ones I could find, if i missed anybody let me know and I can add them.

haha I had no idea Huehuecoyotl got banned.

Anyway, this is probably a super lame first post, but after hardcore lurking for the past few months, and reading every single thread I could find, I have a few questions about the Vortech kit + other components of the car.

1. I like the feel of the stock suspension, but want something that lowers it about 1" or so. With the Vortech, I've read that it's a good idea to replace both the shocks and springs (so coilovers I guess). What suspensions are you guys using?

2. Planning to get the AP racing Sprint Big Brake kit from Essex - does the 20lb weight savings help offset the weight of the Vortech? Trying to keep the weight distribution close to the original. Also, Sprint or Endurance? Both seem fine since I won't be tracking it much at all.

3. Does the Vortech work well with the AT? Or, is everyone that has it currently running MT cars?

4. Is an oil cooler needed, based on what you guys have seen SO FAR? Obviously, that can still change with summer coming up, but what has been your experiences?

5. With the Vortech installed, is the Perrin intake (or any intake, for that matter) overkill? If not, which would be good to use with the kit?

6. (probably most importantly) How long of a break-in period is needed before adding the vortech is "safe" for a new engine? I have already decided to buy the kit, I just would like to get it installed ASAP, but want to make sure the engine is broken in properly first...



Thanks so much for even taking the time to read this. I'm excited to be part of this community and really excited to see what else gets expanded upon/developed with this awesome platform.

This shall be my 1st post too and may very well be just as lame, been lurking on these forums since 2009 lol. Probably not qualified to fully answer your questions but i have nothing better to do at this hour...

1. I'm no expert but I've been drooling over Racecomp's Tarmac IIs.
2. Sprint would seem sufficient if you're not going to track much.
3. No idea since I bought a MT, but hey if Vortech says it supports AT, I wouldn't doubt it.

As for Q4/5/6, I'd like to hear the answers to these as well, especially regarding the intake.

Edit: Does anyone have a picture of what the inside of the Vortech intake box looks like? From the looks of it, an intake designed to replace stock wouldn't fit at all with the blower being right in front of it.

You might also want to designate which compressor, pulley, and fuel, if you're going to quote power levels.

You can't use any of the other aftermarket intakes with the Vortech - it won't fit, but the Vortech kit already comes with a K&N and box that mates up to the OEM snorkel.

1. As far as suspension goes, im currently running megan street series coilovers. They're obviously not great coilovers but for the price they function pretty well. I am planning to upgrade coilovers as well as the rest of the suspension in the near future but for now the ride is fine.

2. If you wont be tracking it much then those brakes should be just fine. Not exactly sure what the complete weight of the vortech kit is, but the weight savings on the brakes will definitely offset some of the kit so you shouldnt be gaining that much more weight.

3. I also have a MT so I can't really comment on how it works with the AT, but as the last person answered vortech did state that it works with the AT so it shouldn't be a problem.

4. As far as an oil cooler goes, I dont really see a great need for one right now, but im gonna keep an eye on the temps as it starts to get hotter. I live in texas so it tends to get pretty hot in the summer time so I guess time will tell on that, but for right now the car runs fine without one but thats also in my future plans to get one.

5. The aftermarket intakes out won't work with the kit, but there is one included. I'll try and get an actual picture of the filter and everything of the intake installed on the kit.

6. For break in as long as you've broken in the engine with the first 1000 miles, it should be fine to add the kit, but of course this all starts falling in the lines of personal preference. As soon as I got past the break I didn't hesitate to start modding the car and start drifiting it as well and i've had no problems with the car yet. Currently im at 10,500 miles.

I thought about doing this but with the constant changes and upgrades people might do with their setups it probably wouldn't stay current. To see exactly what they are running it might be better to actually visit their build threads.

But if more people are interested i'll definitely add that info.

It's just misleading for someone to come in and see 365whp not knowing it's on 12psi with E85. But I can see what you're saying....Though the mods at the time of the dyno posted won't change :)

If you wanna update my mods are
Whiteline subframe inserts + trans mount
Eibach 1 in lower
Deutchswerks 65c pump
Deutchswerks 550cc
Vortech supercharger kit. Updated version
3.125 inch. Pulley 12 ish psi
Motiv overpipe
Invidia catless front pipe
Invidia q300 stainless
May 9th dyno tuned e85 at. @Hal@Dynosty. @Dustin@Dynosty

Thank you! this definitely helps!

I've got that pulley on my desk, looking forward to your results.

:burnrubber:

Yeah I'm really interested to know the 3.125 inch actuall boost number I get. Frank at vortech said to me in an email that it will be in the the neighborhood of 12-13 psi. I understand why skatery had to use a 2.88 to hit the 12.5 psi but that is at 5000ft. And I will be basically sea level so I wonder how different my graph will be to his. Also I have a boost gauge and cosidering buying the in line octane reader to make sure my e85.@ my pump is potent enough

I'll let the other guys on here answer the suspension and brake questions from #1 & #2.

3. The system will bolt right up without issue, but we have not released our tuning with our complete system for the automatic transmission yet. For systems purchased through Perrin or Visconti, they can provide you with tuning for an automatic transmission FR-S/BRZ without issue.

On a side note, there are tons of manual transmission enthusiast-owned cars in SoCal, but we have not been able to source enough automatic owners in SoCal willing to lend us their cars for 4-6 weeks to confirm universal calibration for the autos. If anyone that has a 100% completely stock automatic FR-S/BRZ on here might be interested, they can pm me for further details.

4. An oil cooler should not be needed unless competition level track racing is your intended use, and even then the oil cooler is more of a given for any vehicle, regardless of modifications or boost.

5. The design of the Vortech air box included with the system is designed to function as a more OEM version of a CAI, and therefore would not allow the use of another CAI in conjuction with it.

6. We have had new car dealers that sell and install our various systems for years, right off the lot on brand new vehicles. For that reason, unless someone has a compelling argument on how an FA20 engine is unique in that fashion, I would say that no significant break in period should be required prior to Vortech System installation.

3. I just bought a complete system from you guys. So the tune that comes with won't work on my AT? When can we expect a tune?

Brain, is the use of a Catch Can required or recommended? If so, what does Vortech suggest?

Maybe we should stay on topic of this thread which is about the specific and non specific parts of actual kits installed. This is heading towards the general topic of the systems not the members specific vehicles and experiences

X2. Please make a new thread for questions regarding non-vortech items.

@reyruiz191 I definitely agree with trying to post up the latest numbers/mods for each link since some of us can only run 91/93 octane and thus Skatery's numbers are deceiving, likewise for those that can get E85 they should be able to look more specifically at those setups.

Thanks for the input, I've already started adding some info related to everyones current setup, i'll update more of it later on tonight including what mods they have, fuel, boost, etc.

I do have a question for those running the system already, how many of you guys are currently using gauges and what setup did you did decide to go with as far as cluster and gauges?

Sorry, I saw the use of a Catch Can as a set-up question.

No problem, vortech designed the kit so that you can pretty much bolt it on to an otherwise stock car. So the use of a catch can isn't absolutely necessary, but of course it wont hurt if you run one.

I honestly recommend a Catch Can to everyone going FI. The amount of blow by you start getting with the psi pressure is just not good for the pistons and the gas mixture, which will lead to detonation, and the motor is done.

My .02

This. I strongly getting a catch can for FI, even two catch cans. I've seen what happens with my own eyes when you track this SC car with no catch can. Not pretty.

Definitely dual, breather and PCV. I've seen what a turbo BRZ looked like with no catch cans, so we have both points of view.

How many running the kit are running a catch can? I'm currently not running one, currently getting my money together for my gauge setup then shortly after i'll be putting money towards a catch can as well as other parts for more power and suspension.

I am currently running one Radium catch can on the PCV System. I have a second one in my bedroom I haven't installed yet for the breather. Still trying to engineer a mounting solution.

I have one in my garage I am putting on this weekend.

I am running Perrin AOS right now as well. Just like to other would do FI without one.

Care to elaborate some on this topic?

One of several examples but interesting because it is specific to our cars. @nix had to spend a good amount of minutes lapping the car at cruising speeds to get all the blow by burned he accumulated inside the combustion chamber (no catch can and 5 psi AVO kit) and I believe he didn't do more than 30 minutes in the track. After several minutes lapping it to burn that blow by oil, the car was still burning it.

Remember that the PCV system of this car was not designed for FI, so it will blow by more than a system designed for FI.

One car I've seen has done a long track day with no catch can. When we went to inspect his car there was oil vapour and oil collecting on the inside of the charge pipe and couplers.

I believe this was the work of blow by gas from the secondary breather tube. Made sense because I haven't tracked my car and my pipes are clean.

Will you add this to your build thread with photos?

Can you elaborate on this? My understanding of a PCV is a relatively simple check valve. The check valve is closed at atmospheric pressure via spring/ball and is opened in high vacuum situations where the spring is compressed. So WOT NA or FI should both still be low/no vacuum situations, correct where the valve is closed?

I will just for you.

I'm going to make my own with a morroso oil breather from summitracing. Also can you please add perrin crank pulley to my mods list

Well FI adds positive crank pressure oil vapor and somtimes gas vapor. My gti with a gy3071r on 25 lbs on a dyno you could actually see the vapor gas smoking out of the filter . Kinda embarrassed to say why this is important to have a breather on a fi car. But on stock turbo cars. After a few thousand miles some vehicles you can remove the intercooler and dump a few ounces of oil out from the blow by. Also getting that hot ass vapor out of the intake stream will lower intake air temps and keeping the performance up.and lastly if you have enough crank case pressure on a FI car especially a na car to boosted if the pressure is allowed to build up it will actually start pushing oil past your valve seals and you will smoke like a coal powered train and all kinds of other bad crap will insue from having oil in the combustion chamber

@draggin_az add you to the list!

Have a dyno planned anytime soon? I'm curious to see what you would put down and see how much more power the 11psi pulley makes with your setup over the 9psi pulley.

Oh hey, I guess I'm part of this list now too. Here are the mods on my car: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/dto_g...ehicle_id=1945

Will have a dyno up as soon as I can schedule some time with the dyno and Visconti.

HueHue's was just getting interesting. If I remember correctly, he was about to run this kit on 12psi w/ a new header? Is that right? If so, anybody have any updates about that?

Added your current setup to the list.

There's still some recent updates in his thread through some current members who are still in contact with him. He dyno'd the car with his new wastegate setup and headers but the car suffered a boost leak so they couldnt get an accurate number. I believe he's scheduled for another dyno sometime soon.