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Blokatos 01-27-2010 07:02 PM
Minimum requirements...
 
Everybody might have some. Lets post them and hope Toyota stuff might be reading this.

I'll start. In order for me to buy this car at least it must:

1. Be below the 2650 lbs target weight
2. Have maximum 16" wheels (for the base model) or smaller
3. Have Torsen diff fitted as standard

OldSkoolToys 01-27-2010 07:30 PM
NAAWWWWZZZZZZ

NESW20 01-27-2010 07:30 PM
my requirements:

-it's fun to drive
-it gets better fuel mileage than my truck
-i have the disposable income to afford one
-it looks as similar as possible to the concept
-the back seats are at least a little bit useful

-Mike

S2KtoFT86 01-27-2010 10:19 PM
I second the requirement of it being as close to the concept as can be. I just can't wait to have it look like the one in my sig.

whaap 01-27-2010 11:55 PM
Look like the concept
Have a saddle tan leather interior
Have paddle shifters (after all I'm an old fart)

Shadowsong6 01-28-2010 12:01 AM
Close to the concept
Light weight
Limited slip standard
Semi-useful back seat
at least 200hp
Did I say light weight?

Matador 01-28-2010 02:25 AM
<2650lbs
>199hp
LSD
track worthy brakes, tranny & tyres
balance, feel & communication in the steering & shifter
tc OFF
<$25k base price

TRDMAN 01-28-2010 04:00 AM
> 3Cup Holders
HID's
Frameless windows
Line Lock
fuckin sick scream @ 8K+ with intake & full exhaust
factory roll cage
Targa top
Aggressive gearing
good seating position + visability, meaty steering wheel
Big back seat ;)

4agze 01-28-2010 05:03 AM
Light weight as possible, lesser the better
rev happy, well balanced engine reliability, strength & optional turbo
no stupid electric LSD pls..........
no speed limiter, drive by wire or stupid lunch control & black box like the nissan GTR R35
5x114.3 lug pattern

Midship Runabout 01-28-2010 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 8353)
5x114.3 lug pattern
that is a must

Axel 01-28-2010 02:16 PM
musts for me to buy this car...
  • looks close to the concept, not the bloated factory rice G Sport look
  • RWD (will not consider AWD, even on a Subie model)
  • <$32K for 275+ hp turbocharged, upgraded brakes/suspension/LSD, etc. (will not consider n/a unless 225+ hp & <$25K)
  • <2900# for the turbo engined version

no_name 01-28-2010 02:59 PM
Quote:
1. Be below the 2650 lbs target weight
2. Have maximum 16" wheels (for the base model) or smaller
3. Have Torsen diff fitted as standard
That sums it up right there. If those goals are met, everything else should just fall into place.

Bochet 01-28-2010 06:04 PM
i recognize some member handles in here :)

Light weight
Rev happy engine >180HP
RWD
LSD
6MT
Ability to turn TC fully off

Megalodon 01-28-2010 07:18 PM
180hp >
< 3000
< $25,000

NESW20 01-28-2010 10:55 PM
the 5x114.3 would be nice, but it's not 100% necessary for me. i thought about including it, but for me to readily swap slicks between my MR2 and the FT86, the FT would also need to be able to fit 15" wheels... it's entirely possible, but the track version (up-rated brakes) may very well not be able to fit 15" wheels. if it can't fit 15", it doesn't matter much to me if it's 5x114.3 or 5x100.

-Mike

enc0re 01-28-2010 11:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blokatos (Post 8327)
I'll start. In order for me to buy this car at least it must:

1. Be below the 2650 lbs target weight
I would be jumping for joy. But it's really unlikely. The MX-5 comes in above 2500lbs, and the FT86 has both a metal roof and a heavier motor. I'll be happy if it comes in under 3000lbs. (My, how heavy cars have gotten if that's lightweight.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blokatos (Post 8327)
2. Have maximum 16" wheels (for the base model) or smaller
There's hope. Wheels have gotten stupid big; as in actual making handling worse. But some cars still come with 16s.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blokatos (Post 8327)
3. Have Torsen diff fitted as standard
Not happening at a $21K base price. Either it'll be optional, or the price will have to come up.

I would be willing to spend up to $1K on that as an option though. So please Toyota, make it available.

Matador 01-29-2010 12:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by enc0re (Post 8392)
I would be jumping for joy. But it's really unlikely. The MX-5 comes in above 2500lbs, and the FT86 has both a metal roof and a heavier motor. I'll be happy if it comes in under 3000lbs. (My, how heavy cars have gotten if that's lightweight.)



There's hope. Wheels have gotten stupid big; as in actual making handling worse. But some cars still come with 16s.



Not happening at a $21K base price. Either it'll be optional, or the price will have to come up.

I would be willing to spend up to $1K on that as an option though. So please Toyota, make it available.
Coupes are usually lighter than convertibles.

What the eff is this obsession with ultra small wheels? :slap:

Blokatos 01-29-2010 05:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 8401)
Coupes are usually lighter than convertibles.
True



Quote:
Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 8401)
What the eff is this obsession with ultra small wheels? :slap:
:barf:

Try to disapear into your silence, this is about a drivers car.

OldSkoolToys 01-29-2010 05:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 8401)
Coupes are usually lighter than convertibles.

What the eff is this obsession with ultra small wheels? :slap:
16's are ultra small?

17's are about as big as they need to be for this car, and thats pushing it.

And don't gimme that blah blah blah rotor BS. A rotor using the full extent of a 17 inch rim is WAYYYY more than necessary to stop this car on a dime.

This isn't daddy's old muscle car y'know.

ichitaka05 01-29-2010 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 8410)
16's are ultra small?

17's are about as big as they need to be for this car, and thats pushing it.

And don't gimme that blah blah blah rotor BS. A rotor using the full extent of a 17 inch rim is WAYYYY more than necessary to stop this car on a dime.

This isn't daddy's old muscle car y'know.
I do agree w you on this one. You can find good rotors & calipers that fit under 17's. 17's or 16's either works for me. Also rims are least amount of my worry. Wheels we can change, but some other parts can't (or should I say cost more $$$$$$$$).

My minimum requirements are:
1. 6sp MT
2. Light weight (only asking for less than 2750 lbs)
3. Nice price range ($23k or under)
4. Can Rev up pretty high (not asking for 10k RPM, but around 8k RPM will be happy)
5. Before selling them, final design is driven & approved by Tsuchiya Keiichi-san. :)

Midship Runabout 01-29-2010 03:29 PM
1. light weight of course
2. turbo as an option
3. LSD
4. Good brakes and suspension
5. 5x114.3

Matador 01-29-2010 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 8410)
16's are ultra small?

17's are about as big as they need to be for this car, and thats pushing it.

And don't gimme that blah blah blah rotor BS. A rotor using the full extent of a 17 inch rim is WAYYYY more than necessary to stop this car on a dime.

This isn't daddy's old muscle car y'know.
"LESS THAN" 16 is ultra small. 17" are just fine for me thanks. Take your bitching elsewhere.

p.s. WRT the brakes, it's not about stopping it the first time, it's about stopping it over and over and over again.

S2KtoFT86 01-29-2010 08:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 8459)
"LESS THAN" 16 is ultra small. 17" are just fine for me thanks. Take your bitching elsewhere.

p.s. WRT the brakes, it's not about stopping it the first time, it's about stopping it over and over and over again.
Lol, here we go again. :popcorn:

4agze 01-29-2010 09:27 PM
:popcorn:S2KtoFT86 pass me the pop corn will you

scape 01-29-2010 10:16 PM
the bigger the wheel, the more likely rotational inertia will exist, making acceleration, deceleration, as well as turning at higher speeds more difficult for the car. i'd be happy with 16's, lots of great tire choices in that range. the only two benefits of a larger diameter wheel are bigger rotors as well as aesthetics, everything else is pretty much a downside i'd say.

edit: well that and maybe tire selection is better with the larger wheels

enc0re 01-30-2010 01:03 AM
17s are ok. I would really prefer 15s or 16s. Just please don't put ridiculous 18s on there as standard.

TRDMAN 01-30-2010 02:04 AM
cant lose with 22's

OldSkoolToys 01-30-2010 03:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 8459)
"LESS THAN" 16 is ultra small. 17" are just fine for me thanks. Take your bitching elsewhere.

p.s. WRT the brakes, it's not about stopping it the first time, it's about stopping it over and over and over again.
LOL, who's bitching?

Your post made it sound like you thought 16's were ultra small.

Take your tude elsewhere.:bellyroll:

Blokatos 01-30-2010 05:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 8459)
"LESS THAN" 16 is ultra small. 17" are just fine for me thanks. Take your bitching elsewhere.

p.s. WRT the brakes, it's not about stopping it the first time, it's about stopping it over and over and over again.

You really don't get it, do you?

:search:

NESW20 01-30-2010 05:53 AM
whatever size they are, i hope they're relatively light. they don't need to be SUPER light, i'll deal with a little more weight for a stronger wheel (read: roads around here can have some wicked potholes) but i'd still like to minimize unsprung rotating mass, as that is the worst possible kind of weight a car can have. ever.

-Mike

Axel 01-30-2010 09:09 AM
hey guys, we have an 8 page thread on wheel sizes... we don't need 10+ posts here rehashing the SOS.

Take it there... http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...hp?t=73&page=8

And being that wheels (their style or size) are one of the easiest and first things people change, it wouldn't seem they should rate very high on this thread on "minimum Requirements" in order for you to buy this car.

S2KtoFT86 01-30-2010 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blokatos (Post 8409)
True





:barf:

Try to disapear into your silence, this is about a drivers car.
Lol, that's why an AP2 comes with 17s and drives alot better than an AP1 with 16s. There's obviously more to it than just wheel sizes but there's a reason Honda put 17s on the AP2. Oh yeah, the S2000 is a pure drivers car.

ddoouugg 01-30-2010 11:58 AM
less than 2800 lbs
at least 200 hp for N/A or 250 with factory turbo
mechanical lsd
lots of headroom!!!! (think an e46 with 2 more inches of headroom)
cost less than $25k
HIDs please

Matador 01-30-2010 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scape (Post 8469)
the bigger the wheel, the more likely rotational inertia will exist, making acceleration, deceleration, as well as turning at higher speeds more difficult for the car. i'd be happy with 16's, lots of great tire choices in that range. the only two benefits of a larger diameter wheel are bigger rotors as well as aesthetics, everything else is pretty much a downside i'd say.

edit: well that and maybe tire selection is better with the larger wheels
Read below.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 8483)
whatever size they are, i hope they're relatively light. they don't need to be SUPER light, i'll deal with a little more weight for a stronger wheel (read: roads around here can have some wicked potholes) but i'd still like to minimize unsprung rotating mass, as that is the worst possible kind of weight a car can have. ever.

-Mike
Quote:
Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 8492)
Lol, that's why an AP2 comes with 17s and drives alot better than an AP1 with 16s. There's obviously more to it than just wheel sizes but there's a reason Honda put 17s on the AP2. Oh yeah, the S2000 is a pure drivers car.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axel
And being that wheels (their style or size) are one of the easiest and first things people change, it wouldn't seem they should rate very high on this thread on "minimum Requirements" in order for you to buy this car.
And that about sums it up.






Carry on.

USMCMike 01-31-2010 08:25 AM
~150hp
~2500lbs with full tank of gas
no power windows, power seats or power anything
plain interior, less fancy the better, infact doesn't really need one.

OldSkoolToys 01-31-2010 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by USMCMike (Post 8546)
~150hp
~2500lbs with full tank of gas
no power windows, power seats or power anything
plain interior, less fancy the better, infact doesn't really need one.
Haha, totally agree!

KiRiMa 01-31-2010 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 8338)
I second the requirement of it being as close to the concept as can be. I just can't wait to have it look like the one in my sig.
What he said X2!!!

Matador 01-31-2010 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 8551)
Haha, totally agree!
Beer crate for a seat? :bellyroll:

NESW20 01-31-2010 05:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 8561)
Beer crate for a seat? :bellyroll:
that doesn't work well, i promise! i drove an RX8 6 speed sitting on a milk crate once. i almost fell over backwards every time i pushed the clutch. super annoying. ;)

-Mike

USMCMike 01-31-2010 09:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 8551)
Haha, totally agree!
I've not bought cars because of their interiors. The newer WRX STi is a good example, beautiful car, but for what I was going to do to it, way too fancy. Not my style, utilitarian please.


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