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cfl4rat 04-20-2013 09:09 PM

Sold my 1st born to join the BRZ crew....
 
Well not really but close enough, i've spent many years in the chopper scene. this was supposed to be my holy grail. i spent a little over 1yr building it, wont bore you with specs. but here she is. just sold it today:brokenheart:
[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8123/8...e1611e7a_c.jpg
IMG_0681 by cfl4rat, on Flickr[/IMG]

OK enough about that, i work at the Subaru plant here in Indiana so that pushes my to pick the BRZ. my last RWD was a sprayed 99 cobra so it will take a few getting use to the low HP but cant wait!! not to mention the bike above weighed 408lbs and had 140hp 145tq out of a 127" motor

My big question is what the main diff. between the "limited" and "premium"?
also if you in my shoes would you buy one now or hold off till Oct. to see if they release a STI version?

no stranger to forums so i will use the search button but may have a dumb question from time to time till i learn all this new lingo:happy0180:

russv 04-20-2013 09:10 PM

Interesting bike but good move. Death wish gone?

kALMIGHTY 04-20-2013 09:16 PM

Well I live in Canada, so the whole Limited vs Premium thing is a little different. (Ours are just the base BRZ, and BRZ Sport Tech). With the Premium (or Sport Tech), you get heated leather/alacantara seats, push button start, fog lights, spoiler. Everything else is the same. HIDs are common to both the trim levels of the BRZ.

As far as waiting till October goes, if you want to get in and enjoy breaking the car in during summer and get used to it before the winter comes, get it now. If you have another car that you can use and don't mind waiting till October or later to get one, and don't mind starting driving it in winter basically, then you should probably wait.

I'm in the same boat as you right now, I could get a 2013 FR-S now, or wait for the 2014 when it comes out in fall. I don't know how exactly Subaru works, but with Scion, you could order the 2014 parts you like and just have them installed into your 2013 model by the dealership, so I may just go that route. If Subaru does a similar thing, then get a 2013 and start driving it now. :)

chaotichoax 04-20-2013 09:51 PM

limited: spoiler/heater leather/alacantara seats/push button start/ electronic HVCA controls...not sure if fogs are standard or optional

Silverdub 04-20-2013 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfl4rat (Post 880313)
Well not really but close enough, i've spent many years in the chopper scene. this was supposed to be my holy grail. i spent a little over 1yr building it, wont bore you with specs. but here she is. just sold it today:brokenheart:
[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8123/8...e1611e7a_c.jpg
IMG_0681 by cfl4rat, on Flickr[/IMG]

OK enough about that, i work at the Subaru plant here in Indiana so that pushes my to pick the BRZ. my last RWD was a sprayed 99 cobra so it will take a few getting use to the low HP but cant wait!! not to mention the bike above weighed 408lbs and had 140hp 145tq out of a 127" motor

My big question is what the main diff. between the "limited" and "premium"?
also if you in my shoes would you buy one now or hold off till Oct. to see if they release a STI version?

no stranger to forums so i will use the search button but may have a dumb question from time to time till i learn all this new lingo:happy0180:

i am not into choppers at all, im a sportbike guy but man that thing is hot as hell!!!!!

:party0030:

cfl4rat 04-20-2013 09:56 PM

got it thanks.. limited sounds like a good pick.. now i need to make my mind up between lighting red or pearl white. gonna poke around at work and see if i can get any info on a sti release date?...

dmudry 04-20-2013 10:01 PM

if you work at a subaru factory shouldnt you know about the differences/if there is an STI version coming...

cfl4rat 04-20-2013 10:11 PM

we build the legacy, tribeca and outback. i work in stamping so i couldn't even tell ya the trim levels on what we build. Subaru is very tight lipped on everything, hell when we do model changes at our plant unless your on the try out teams you dont see shit till it enters pre production.

Kelbyat07 04-20-2013 10:11 PM

If you can afford the STI version, then you should really wait.

cfl4rat 04-20-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07 (Post 880423)
If you can afford the STI version, then you should really wait.

given the fact that there won't be a turbo under the hood what do you guys think the price jump will be on the sti? 3-4K maybe

fatoni 04-20-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07 (Post 880423)
If you can afford the STI version, then you should really wait.

i think it depends. if you are more of a hardcore enthusiast, i imagine you will be changing parts anyways. in that case buy it now as that money will probably take you farther in the aftermarket. if you are going to keep it stock and just want a little more or maybe have that complex where you have to have the best option and dont mind waiting indefinitely for something we dont really know anything about, sit tight

Kelbyat07 04-20-2013 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfl4rat (Post 880433)
given the fact that there won't be a turbo under the hood what do you guys think the price jump will be on the sti? 3-4K maybe

Probably. I would still wait for the STI.

Kelbyat07 04-20-2013 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 880441)
i think it depends. if you are more of a hardcore enthusiast, i imagine you will be changing parts anyways. in that case buy it now as that money will probably take you farther in the aftermarket. if you are going to keep it stock and just want a little more or maybe have that complex where you have to have the best option and dont mind waiting indefinitely for something we dont really know anything about, sit tight


True. But it won't hurt to wait a little longer, as we will find out more about the STI. Don't want to make an early decision that will later turn into regret.

cfl4rat 04-20-2013 10:28 PM

the only thing that makes me question weather or not to wait is "IF" the STI comes with a NA 240ishHP it would be worth the 3-4K, you'll spend that on the current model getting to those #'s :iono:


i can't lie though i do like the price of the current BRZ.. i'd hate to see the dealer mark up on a STI...

fatoni 04-20-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07 (Post 880447)
True. But it won't hurt to wait a little longer, as we will find out more about the STI. Don't want to make an early decision that will later turn into regret.

it is probably a time of year to wait either way i guess. if the next my (sti or not) comes out and its not really what you expected, you can likely get a discounted and i think that is worth the wait.
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfl4rat (Post 880448)
the only thing that makes me question weather or not to wait is "IF" the STI comes with a NA 240ishHP it would be worth the 3-4K, you'll spend that on the current model getting to those #'s :iono:


i can't lie though i do like the price of the current BRZ.. i'd hate to see the dealer mark up on a STI...

i can all but guarantee that subaru is not going to offer an extra 40 hp for 3-4k. to keep that in perspective, its more expensive to make power sans forced induction and you are talking about gains similar to the ones going from a wrx to an sti. to do that without a turbo would likely create a cost gap greater than that of the wrx model.

Brzetto 04-20-2013 11:21 PM

I couldn't ride a bike like that, the lack of a rear suspension guarantees back problems.

aceangel 04-21-2013 04:50 AM

Unless you really want the car now, it's always better to wait it out. Do you know if Subaru announced the '14 model year yet?

cfl4rat 04-21-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceangel (Post 880823)
Unless you really want the car now, it's always better to wait it out. Do you know if Subaru announced the '14 model year yet?

On the BRZ? unsure on that one...

#87 04-21-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited (Post 880536)
I couldn't ride a bike like that, the lack of a rear suspension guarantees back problems.

Solid rear axle? :lol:

On topic, get what you want now. The only reason I would wait is if I'm satisfied with what I have now and waiting for the used market to saturate. I would have loved to save money and buy a used BRZ but I couldn't stand to drive a honda accord another 2+ years...

industrial 04-21-2013 09:32 AM

The limited BRZ feels very familiar to what my 2008 STI felt like inside. Same level of materials and little touches here and there. I think between the nice climate controls, alcantara seats and keyless entry, it's worth the jump to the limited. I actually really like the spoiler on the limited too now that I added the gurney flap.

Make the car your own man. The only screaming reason to ever buy a STI over the WRX was the transmission for many years. It became a rather mute point towards the end of this model line. I doubt the STI BRZ will have a different transmission or engine. Why wait if you are willing to wrench and personalize anyway?

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ps235df6e1.jpg

seanmc69 04-21-2013 09:45 AM

Love the bike! enjoy your BRZ

GNS 04-21-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by industrial (Post 880921)
The limited BRZ feels very familiar to what my 2008 STI felt like inside. Same level of materials and little touches here and there. I think between the nice climate controls, alcantara seats and keyless entry, it's worth the jump to the limited. I actually really like the spoiler on the limited too now that I added the gurney flap.

Make the car your own man. The only screaming reason to ever buy a STI over the WRX was the transmission for many years. It became a rather mute point towards the end of this model line. I doubt the STI BRZ will have a different transmission or engine. Why wait if you are willing to wrench and personalize

Wait...weren't there more differences? Like the types of differentials, suspension type/setup, driver selectable DCCD (maybe a bit gimmicky if you get an AP), better brakes, STI specific seats....can't remember what else.

Wonderbar 04-21-2013 12:37 PM

Gotta go with Satin White Pearl. I get two sets of compliments on the car, first being how awesome it is, the next is how awesome the color is.

cfl4rat 04-21-2013 12:55 PM

well i've only seen a black one in person, to anyone out there that has seen both red & white in the flesh, is it true that the body/feature lines stand out more on the white?

industrial 04-21-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNS (Post 880991)
Wait...weren't there more differences? Like the types of differentials, suspension type/setup, driver selectable DCCD (maybe a bit gimmicky if you get an AP), better brakes, STI specific seats....can't remember what else.

Lots of little differences. None were really all that meaningful except the transmission. DCCD, SI-Drive were complete gimmicks. The seats always sucked. 02' wrx seats were the best seats found on USDM Subarus until the BRZ seats. Everything else on that list could easily be swapped by an average enthusiast. The WRX became just a much better deal after 09. Almost impossible to justify the STI as it currently stands for your average car guy.

Brzetto 04-21-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #87 (Post 880912)
Solid rear axle? :lol:

On topic, get what you want now. The only reason I would wait is if I'm satisfied with what I have now and waiting for the used market to saturate. I would have loved to save money and buy a used BRZ but I couldn't stand to drive a honda accord another 2+ years...

yeah that is called a hardtail it has no rear suspension at all and it is very rough on the body.

cfl4rat 04-21-2013 09:05 PM

Nah you'd be surprised. A properly set up hardtail is not as bad as everybody thinks. Sure it's no dresser but I prefer a hardtail over a softail any day of the week, espicially on a high HP bike :)

LeeMaster 04-21-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfl4rat (Post 881127)
well i've only seen a black one in person, to anyone out there that has seen both red & white in the flesh, is it true that the body/feature lines stand out more on the white?

It really depends on what angle you are looking at and if it is a cloudy day or a sunny day. I think the red stands out more on a sunny day, because you can see the light reflection more easier when the light is working it's way around the lines. It is a bit harder to notice the lines on a white because it blends in a little bit more.

Turbowned 04-22-2013 09:32 AM

That bike was really sweet, shame you had to sell it. Now you get to enjoy one hell of a car, though!!

#87 04-22-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marchy (Post 882181)
IMO the best colours on the BRZ go in this order.

WR Blue > Dark Gray Metallic > Lightning Red > Satin White Pearl > Crystal Black Silica > Galaxy Blue Silica > Sterling Silver Metallic

however i'm slightly biased as to what the best colour is :D

WOW wtf BM man, no way silver is in last :cry:(i have SSM)

strat61caster 04-22-2013 11:41 AM

STI version is just a rumor, no evidence, no specs and in all likelihood will just be a bigger spoiler, bigger wheels and some flashy add ons, IF it's coming in the next year or two.

Odds are no major changes for the '14 either, you won't regret having this car for the 6+ months you are considering waiting.


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