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quik1987 01-24-2012 02:20 AM

Toyota developing a new turbocharged engine - report
 
Toyota developing a new turbocharged engine - report

http://cdn3.worldcarfans.co/2011/8/2...6359855532.jpg 2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid - 23.8.2011


Could debut in 2013

Toyota and Gazoo Racing are reportedly developing a turbocharged four-cylinder engine with direct injection.
According to the Detroit Bureau, the Japanese automaker is shifting focus from hybrid development to building smaller displacement engines. While they won't offer the same fuel efficiency as hybrids, turbocharging is cheaper and has more of a performance image.
The publication also says an "aggressive development program [is] underway" and a number of small and mid-sized models could adopt the new engine. Nothing is official, but speculation suggests it may debut on the JDM Crown as early as 2013. The engine could eventually be offered on the next-generation Corolla and the Camry.

Source: The Detroit Bureau via Autoblog

WingsofWar 01-24-2012 02:29 AM

turbo camry :bellyroll:

Guff 01-24-2012 02:48 AM

Corolla S can finally mean something!!!!

serialk11r 01-24-2012 03:36 AM

Not so fast, turbo only improves fuel economy on a smaller engine. Adding turbo always reduces fuel economy. You have to start with something that gets better fuel economy, and then add turbo to make the acceleration "acceptable".

DommerEOD 01-24-2012 06:04 AM

turbo prius.



Ha!

Dark 01-24-2012 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DommerEOD (Post 120426)
turbo prius.



Ha!

electric turbo that is.

Homemade WRX 01-24-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 120397)
Not so fast, turbo only improves fuel economy on a smaller engine. Adding turbo always reduces fuel economy. You have to start with something that gets better fuel economy, and then add turbo to make the acceleration "acceptable".

agreed however in the way that turbo is applied to getting better fuel economy is in the power it's sold at. Hence the Eco-boost V6 taking the place a of a V8. So now when you are out of the throttle, you're only feeding fuel for 3.5L instead of 5.4L.

It's all in the marketing of 'turbo efficiency' and we both know that. Plus the turbos are usually the size of a glazed donut to carry the low end tq/boost. It then can drive higher EGR flow etc.

Dimman 01-24-2012 11:44 AM

Toyota sounds sick of Hyundai stealing their pie.

Efficiency-wise they're probably looking to do something like the Sonata. Turbo 4 instead of big V6.

Jeff Lange 01-24-2012 12:48 PM

Turbo is cool. I'd like to see Toyota get back into turbocharging engines, even if it starts small like this, once they're using turbos again, it'll be that much easier to do it for a performance engine too. :)

Jeff

Syldrin 01-24-2012 01:02 PM

i love the new turbo come back thats going on right now.

quik1987 01-24-2012 11:23 PM

Maybe this will result in the next turbo supra

Snoopyalien24 01-24-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 120497)
Toyota sounds sick of Hyundai stealing their pie.

Exactly.


(Let me troll sum over here)
"So a Camry gets turbo, and the FRS doesn't?!" *angry derp face*

http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pi...-star-trek.jpg
(End trollin for today)

n0m0h0s 08-18-2012 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DommerEOD (Post 120426)
turbo prius.



Ha!

prius does have a Plus performance package. alloy rims, lowered with body kit lol with optional remote engine start lmfao, still looked pretty nice

JDLAutoDesign 08-18-2012 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syldrin (Post 120539)
i love the new turbo come back thats going on right now.

Yes as do I! Finally car manufactures are listening

Shagaliscious 08-18-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 120380)
Corolla S can finally mean something!!!!

I was always disappointed with the Corolla S. They should have them competing with the Civic Si.

I believe this is in response to Kia & Hyundai turbocharging nearly every car they have in their line-ups.

wbradley 08-18-2012 11:52 AM

With the CAFE initiative, I am highly doubtful that Toyota's focus will be high performance turbocharging. Like Ford and Hyundai, they will likely focus on fuel economy and weight reduction using smaller displacement motors to lower the average fuel consumption of their North American lineup. I'm sure they aren't attempting an 80's throwback.

If they did offer a Turbo FR-S, I bet it will be a really upscale package with a significant price premium. After all, if it is a gas guzzler they will need to sell it in low volume to not raise the overall fuel consumption of the lineup to move into the next increment of CAFE regulation.

It makes more sense to offer factory authorized bolt on solutions that fly under the radar.

Chewie4299 08-18-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 387477)
With the CAFE initiative, I am highly doubtful that Toyota's focus will be high performance turbocharging. Like Ford and Hyundai, they will likely focus on fuel economy and weight reduction using smaller displacement motors to lower the average fuel consumption of their North American lineup. I'm sure they aren't attempting an 80's throwback.

If they did offer a Turbo FR-S, I bet it will be a really upscale package with a significant price premium. After all, if it is a gas guzzler they will need to sell it in low volume to not raise the overall fuel consumption of the lineup to move into the next increment of CAFE regulation.

It makes more sense to offer factory authorized bolt on solutions that fly under the radar.

Yes. Toyota sells all their cars in the US and CAFE completely determines the direction in which their R&D department moves.

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Davis 08-18-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DommerEOD (Post 120426)
turbo prius.



Ha!

http://www.earthority.com/images/prius_blitz3.jpg

Blitz developed a turbo kit for the 2nd gen Prius. ;)

GenkiElite 08-19-2012 03:03 AM

^^Yup, and IIRC it got better mileage as well.

20valvewynn83 08-19-2012 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DommerEOD (Post 120426)
turbo prius.



Ha!

The government has been working on a turbo prius for years now! When i worked at the Toyota in Irvine the government would bring in a turbo prius (very small turbo) that was natural gas. :w00t:

20valvewynn83 08-19-2012 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 120952)
Exactly.


(Let me troll sum over here)
"So a Camry gets turbo, and the FRS doesn't?!" *angry derp face*


(End trollin for today)

Just so you know they are in R&D for a turbo in the FRS. Well thats what i was told by our Toyota rep.

gwascopter 08-19-2012 03:32 AM

troll of the year.

Asterisked Accolade 08-20-2012 10:53 AM

I feel as though Toyota's recent decisions deserve two words, "Welcome Back."

Snoopyalien24 08-20-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83 (Post 388588)
Just so you know they are in R&D for a turbo in the FRS. Well thats what i was told by our Toyota rep.

Yeah okay, I also heard it's going to give it a 180hp gain with 3 psi

:bellyroll:

If they are doing that (which I highly doubt), its going to be as a dealer add-on accessory rather than a factory option. EVEN IF, it wont be a turbo, but a supercharger

quik1987 08-20-2012 03:35 PM

Anyone else notice the bottom half of the camry looks like the frs

20valvewynn83 08-20-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 390966)
Yeah okay, I also heard it's going to give it a 180hp gain with 3 psi

:bellyroll:

If they are doing that (which I highly doubt), its going to be as a dealer add-on accessory rather than a factory option. EVEN IF, it wont be a turbo, but a supercharger

I guess we have to wait and see. And what your told compared to what I'm told is completely different because my source is reliable. But like iv told people ill believe it when iv seen it. I'm sure it will be a bolt on due to the cost. Toyota will have to pay the government more to build a high horsepower car.

Snoopyalien24 08-21-2012 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quik1987 (Post 391027)
Anyone else notice the bottom half of the camry looks like the frs

Yeah it's their "corporate look" now


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