Scion Canada Contest Fine Print (Pricing)
 

On Scion.ca they have a contest to win an FR-S, and in the terms and conditions it is listed:

My guess is that they are aiming a bit high to cover their butts, but just thought some people might be interested.

Jeff

Cool,thanks for info. If its 30k thatll blow. Then ill have to start bitching about climate control and push button start..lol

Hrmmmm, considering a manual tC with no options stats at $20,940 Canadian, and in the US they start at $19,305, this does not bode well for pricing.

Like I said, I think that's going to be a pretty high estimate (and might include taxes/delivery, it's a bit confusing from the wording). I'm not sure how much information it actually provides, but I thought people might be curious anyway. :)

Jeff

Hey, that's no problem. Like it says, that's an estimate, they haven't actually released any numbers yet, so there's a good possibility that's just something they threw out to cover the cost for the rules of the contest or something like that. I'm sure hoping it's under $25K...

Well damn, we will find out pricing info in June?? Dammit

^^ Yeah, that's what I noticed.

30K must be purely a legal thing otherwise it would be more specific. Il'l bet they need to cover their buts for a fully loaded model as well. Also june sounds like official release of price, should find out a bit sooner, especially since prices (may) have leaked in some European countries.

From the looks of this, does this mean the BRZ will be released before the FR-S?

I saw some guy on this forum leaked the fact that BRZ will be release sometime in May.

It's Scion Canada. I wouldn't use that contest to make any assumptions about Scion America or the FR-S/BRZ release date/pricing in the States.

Also because of the Cdn Subaru markup, they may option the crap out of the Scion up here (which would be fine with me). Then the Sub would be 3-4k more still. A WRX is 32.5 before any pdi/freight. I'd expect the BRZ to be 30+ before options with a limited getting into 34ish. So the Scion will probably close to 30 with no extra options.

Heated seats are pretty much manditory, and they'll probably do different tire configs.

I want a scion with heated seats, push start, manual climate, and controls on the wheel. No interest in wasting my money on a nav or climate or leather.

They did the same thing with the VW GTI - pretty much loaded vs the US which has more stripper models.

Yeah companies often intentionally option vehicles in Canada differently than is even available in the USA so that you cannot make direct comparisons to USA models for pricing. Of course also due to different demographics as well, but yeah this was just a curiosity not much more.

Jeff

I REALLY hope you are wrong... This would be so f*ckng stupid... after all (for non "car addicts" like us... its still only a 200hp car...

You can't just look at exchange rates for the USD and CAD and get a price for a vehicle. The Canadian dollar has a different amount of purchasing power as the US dollar does. Go on Canada Nissan's website. Price of a brand new base-level 370Z is 40,900 CAD. Price of a 370Z in the US? 31,900.


Relax, guys. Relax.

Yep, still going to be $23k base here in the states. Hopefully!

This man speaks the truth.

Jeff

dam if it somehow ends up being 30k for us Canadains how much will the subie cost :O

All the pricing leaks and estimations from other countries seem to indicate it being on par with the starting price of a Genesis in that country so 23k looks like a good bet.

Posted about this in the Canada thread but it does have implications for US as well.

Reading the fine print it says:

With sales tax in Canada at 13%, I'm hoping the $30k is the TOTAL prize value which could indicate as low a base starting price of $24k to $25k in Canada.

Based on the fact that Scion has a small markup from US to Cdn prices, I'd say $22.5k to $23.5k BASE in the US is still possible??

Or maybe I'm still just lying to myself...

^^ actually if you take quebec taxes (15% lulz) ... then take off the 1500$ freight/pdi ... comes out at 24,600$CAD exactly...

2 scion canada dealers told me it would sell about 4 to 5k more than the tC... estimations seems legit.

^^^ Is why im glad i live in Alberta..
5% Tax makes it actually affordable..

Same here

those terms definately seem like they are covering their asses

but damn - i wish tax in the UK was 5 - 15 %... We have to pay 20% plus a "showroom tax" for buying the car and a tax depending on how much emissions it has...

I was in Alberta for vacation/holiday in september - pretty cool places (Banff, Jasper, Lake Louise, Icefields Parkway, Canmore), would love to move there

I heard that Canadian sweepstakes rules are really stringent with what you can and cannot say/promise. So I'm pretty sure the 30k is max price with all options included. Ass coverage for when some schmuck goes "but you said I could buy the car for $X!"

^^ is why I want to move to Alberta... my province is a joke 24/7

Have to keep in mind that the FRS is produced in Japan and the tC is manufactured in North America. Seems like the cars produced in Japan, like the STi, 370, etc. are very expensive in Canada, we have much better trade agreements in the US with Japan. I would not read too much in to Canadian pricing influencing or directly relating to US pricing.

me too, i want to move to alberta.

The tC is not manufactured in North America. It is built in Japan.

this is exactly what i mean about distributor. the u.s. and canadian dollar is almost equal and why is the canadian tc more expensive than its u.s. counterpart.

the canadian distributor of scions didn't get a good price on the tc because they either didn't negotiate well for the car or they didn't order as much as the states or they want more profit than the u.s. distributor.

If I recall correctly, in Canada import duties are 6.1% on passenger cars, and in the US it is 2.5%. Combine that with the purchasing power of Toyota Motor Sales versus that of Toyota Canada Inc - at least 10 - 1.

On top of that, Canadian-spec tCs come with carpet mats, all season floor mats and a rear window wiper.

There's your price difference.

Every Scion is made in Japan, including the tC.

xA, xB, tC, xD, iQ, FR-S. All Japan.

Jeff

I stand corrected.

Try going there during their 6-month winter, you'll come to a completely different conclusion - it's horrible. I'll gladly pay a little extra tax living in Toronto to avoid that shitty weather. Move to the BC coast if you want English weather.

yep winters can get VERY cold here.

That's about what I expected them to cost here in Canada. My '03 Celica GT-S TRD Panasonic edition had everything except a sun roof and it came out to 38k once all was said and done from the dealer.

A fully optioned tC on scion.ca is just over 30k I expect the FR-S to be on par with my Celi's pricing. Part of the reason I can't stand it being a Scion and losing out on some options. Then again, we don't know what the options are yet... so we'll see.

Not this year, yeesh. Running in shorts all this week.

I'm gonna get some awesome studded winters, throw some sandbags in the back and it's winter fun time!

Sandbags - brings back memories of driving my dad's vintage '69 GTO with the 454 cu in engine in the snow, what a freaking nightmare, lucky I was never in an accident. Even with 100 pounds of sand in the trunk it was awful. His 911 was easier to manage in snow, but still no picnic.

Well this will have significantly less torque, which should make it easier to drive in the snow. Driving in the snow will always be an exercise in throttle control.

Bumping this for anyone new, or if anyone forgot to enter.

Scion Canada's contest to win an FR-S closes on Oct 14. This is the upcoming Sunday. Enter on their site. Good luck!

(Except all you guys who already have your cars. Bad luck to you. Heh...)



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