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Giccin 01-20-2012 03:19 AM

Gang of Chinese kick, yell, and drag a little caucasian boy
 
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...I4708zS3J35O86

Can't really emblem those videos but its about 1/3 down the page.

My Chinese language understanding only goes up to the name of foods, how to say I love you, I miss you, and Hi. Oh... and "Fuck!" (Thank you Chinese Farmers in MMORPGs).

So if any of you guys can pick out what they're saying... it would be awesome. :)

serialk11r 01-20-2012 03:27 AM

So the little kid is probably an Uighur or something which is why he looks white, and he stole money so everyone is yelling at him and crap. First they're telling him to take out the money he stole. When he cries they're like "when you were pickpocketing you weren't like this". Then they're like "why did you steal? Next time you don't steal money! Okay?!" and some side conversations. Er local dialect/accent I don't 100% understand, but someone near the camera said "you think he wouldn't steal next time? [something not sure, probably like "just watch, next time he'll do it again"]

switchlanez 01-20-2012 03:46 AM

To add to the possible context, one of the comments says:

"thats one of the typical trained young thieves from western province of china.
most of them are chinese muslim, usually white skin(think of white chinese).
if they get arrested for stealing or robbing they will get released right away.

they usually steal or rob ppl in group of 2-6 usually few kids accompanied by few adults armed with short knives.

lots chinese were stabbed or wounded by those thieves.
thats partly y ppl hate them so much since law does not apply on them. even police dont wanna get involved in this kind of thing."

serialk11r 01-20-2012 03:51 AM

"Chinese muslim" usually refers to the Hui minority who look very similar to Chinese people but are Muslim. Uighurs are the other Muslim group in China, who live in northwestern China. They look sorta like white people, but not really.

switchlanez 01-20-2012 04:05 AM

Damn i wonder if his hands got broken D:

Giccin 01-20-2012 04:33 AM

Whoa. Thanks for the info guys!

I wouldn't beat the kid like they did though. Probably just ask him what were the consequences if he didn't get my money. Lol

nrclptcnsmniak 01-20-2012 05:07 AM

Poor kid :/

Dark 01-20-2012 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 117432)
Whoa. Thanks for the info guys!

I wouldn't beat the kid like they did though. Probably just ask him what were the consequences if he didn't get my money. Lol

Too kind. You would get something stolen again. :lol:

serialk11r 01-20-2012 05:27 AM

^^ Yea, life is kinda difficult like that sometimes.

Zaku 01-20-2012 10:09 AM

Don't take this the wrong way, or you can it's up to you some times it's hard for westerners or people who grow up west to take this in. I grew up in the slums of Bangkok and I wasn't a good kid either, kids around me stole and fight in groups I was stupid but I didn't have parents and my family was poor these were the only friends I had. Trust me this kid had it easy when a bunch of adults are yelling at him kicking him or pulling him. He didn't get beaten down by police in billy clubs or Bakkou swords or put in chains and thrown into jail for a day with no food. No one had use him as a punching bag for boxers. I was lucky to get out of that life and come here to the USA where I learn better values.Not that it wasn't taught in Asian culture, but somethings will slip by.

You know in some countries like Cambodia and Myanmar in some provinces it's legal if they shoot the kid for stealing. So this kid had it easy.Life is tough over there, so this is a good lesson for him maybe if he's lucky someone kind hearted will adopt him and teach him good values.

That vid gives people the wrong idea, it's like it's trying to start stuff like look at these racist chinese people beating up a white kid. Its another chinese person just he's lighter =___= person who posted this vid on that site is so mis informed.

ZetaVI 01-20-2012 11:32 AM

World Star always mistakenly title their videos wrong and people automatically makes assumptions. I'm pretty sure the issue is that a kid is being beaten. Socially in western culture treatment is a large concern. Anytime a child is beaten there is outrage. However, i'm assuming most of us from Asian backgrounds understand that children are treated differently. It isn't shocking to see a kid being beaten for something wrong or working on their own. It's a harsh life that many people of the western world don't understand. I appreciate the opportunity of just being raised in the U.S.

Mr.Jay 01-20-2012 12:51 PM

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I thought by now we have all grown up enough to know the world ain't a nice place. People get shit kicked and beat all the time. I'm not saying its right but bitching about it on the internet sure won't change the world.

MannyO 01-20-2012 01:21 PM

Man that was probably the most disturbing video I've seen in a while...

Giccin 01-20-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZetaVI (Post 117549)
World Star always mistakenly title their videos wrong and people automatically makes assumptions. I'm pretty sure the issue is that a kid is being beaten. Socially in western culture treatment is a large concern. Anytime a child is beaten there is outrage. However, i'm assuming most of us from Asian backgrounds understand that children are treated differently. It isn't shocking to see a kid being beaten for something wrong or working on their own. It's a harsh life that many people of the western world don't understand. I appreciate the opportunity of just being raised in the U.S.

Yea, westerners most likely don't know what asian kids go through. Lol

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Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 117585)
I thought by now we have all grown up enough to know the world ain't a nice place. People get shit kicked and beat all the time. I'm not saying its right but bitching about it on the internet sure won't change the world.

I remember when I was a child I stole some money from my dad.

I got beat with the fly swatter and a very thin bamboo stick was cut into thinner strips but still attached (think almost like a bullwhip). Whenever I did something really bad I'd get it. And it' fking hurt. Stole money? Got beat. Poor grades? Got beat.

Can't do that now in the U.S because you'd go to jail! lol

n2oinferno 01-20-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 117612)
Can't do that now in the U.S because you'd go to jail! lol

That depends on where you live. Whole different culture in the south.

M-17 01-20-2012 01:50 PM

Okay so far from what I've seen and read from the comments, I think this part of the situation was justifiable if he was caught stealing. It's not like this little kid got his ass kicked or worse, if he had been older he would have, instead the boy was made an example of.
However these people could have handle the situation better by leaving out the kicking at least.
It's a different country with different views so hopefully that little kid learns from all this and moves on to better things in life.

Allch Chcar 01-20-2012 02:42 PM

Do you mean Chinese Gold Farmers, Giccin? ;) I see you are wearing your tinfoil cap today, no?

Considering the low quality of the footage it would be very easy for the western media to sensationalize this video by saying that they were being racist instead of punishing a thief. It's pretty obvious from the crowd's reactions that this is not an angry mob but a public form of discipline.

I'm familiar with physical discipline, but this strikes me as alien and very harsh. No doubt I would get a beating(spanking is probably more accurate) for stealing as a child, as I did and never repeated the mistake, but it would be by dealt with privately by my parents(or guardian) and not involve a crowd or strangers except to deliver me to my parents. It's very easy to generalize the US's public tv reaction but you have to take in mind the State/city vary in opinion. In many states, parental physical discipline is very legal but there is a line between discipline and abuse. Whereas administering physical discipline on an unrelated minor such as beating or flogging or stepping on toes would be an offense in most places, at least that I am familiar with.

It was not easy to watch that video, that's for sure.

ryude 01-20-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 117618)
That depends on where you live. Whole different culture in the south.

+1

I grew up in Louisiana, no such thing as calling the police when you get beat. The police would come laugh at you and say, "Do you need me to take this kid around in the cruiser for a bit to teach him a lesson?" Which is how it's supposed to be in my opinion. No one should have their rights protected so much that they can do whatever they want without consequence.

Giccin 01-20-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 117618)
That depends on where you live. Whole different culture in the south.

I'm in Cali.

So calling the police for "child abuse" is quite common. :/

Wished it was still like that here!

I'd beat my kids too if they stole something. Lol

MF_DEUCE 01-20-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MannyO (Post 117601)
Man that was probably the most disturbing video I've seen in a while...

You think that was bad??!

I wouldn't recommend it but if you do happen to watch them, the Drug Cartel videos are FAR more worse than children getting beaten. I made the mistake of being nosy and looking for one...NEVER doing that again. :barf:

Like many of us "westerners," I'm very fortunate to have been born here.

DieDriving 01-20-2012 05:05 PM

Survival of the fittest....kids in States are way too spoil and soft....they b!tch and whine when shet don't go their way.....when i was a kid, i fought other kids just for the right to play bball....dam modern parenting, crap parenting is getting outa hand....

nrclptcnsmniak 01-20-2012 05:16 PM

just because "it could have" been worse does not make this any better. Clitirectomies in Africa, Drug cartel in mexico etc etc... yeah thats bad too. its all sad and unfortunate. Wish I couldve helped that kid.

Mr.Jay 01-20-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 117612)
I remember when I was a child I stole some money from my dad.

I got beat with the fly swatter and a very thin bamboo stick was cut into thinner strips but still attached (think almost like a bullwhip). Whenever I did something really bad I'd get it. And it' fking hurt. Stole money? Got beat. Poor grades? Got beat.

Can't do that now in the U.S because you'd go to jail! lol

I was a pretty bad child I guess and whenever I did anything really bad (taken home by cops) my parents would buy a frozen durian cut it shell into strips and make my kneel on the spikes while pulling my ears in front of the fridge, if they saw me not pulling my ears or easing off my knees I would get my face pushed into the fridge.

Pretty nuts but I don't actually think it was that bad compared to the stories I hear of their childhood. Western world is too soft, depriving your kids of their electronics and love don't seem very effective to me

serialk11r 01-20-2012 07:35 PM

Ouch Mr. Jay, that sounds pretty bad...

zoomzoomers 01-20-2012 08:16 PM

All I'll say is, "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". In addition don't be so quick to judge how others live their lives in places we don't have much familiarity of culture and ways...

Dark 01-20-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaku (Post 117520)
Don't take this the wrong way, or you can it's up to you some times it's hard for westerners or people who grow up west to take this in. I grew up in the slums of Bangkok and I wasn't a good kid either, kids around me stole and fight in groups I was stupid but I didn't have parents and my family was poor these were the only friends I had. Trust me this kid had it easy when a bunch of adults are yelling at him kicking him or pulling him. He didn't get beaten down by police in billy clubs or Bakkou swords or put in chains and thrown into jail for a day with no food. No one had use him as a punching bag for boxers. I was lucky to get out of that life and come here to the USA where I learn better values.Not that it wasn't taught in Asian culture, but somethings will slip by.

You know in some countries like Cambodia and Myanmar in some provinces it's legal if they shoot the kid for stealing. So this kid had it easy.Life is tough over there, so this is a good lesson for him maybe if he's lucky someone kind hearted will adopt him and teach him good values.

That vid gives people the wrong idea, it's like it's trying to start stuff like look at these racist chinese people beating up a white kid. Its another chinese person just he's lighter =___= person who posted this vid on that site is so mis informed.

I have to butt in and say you're wrong. There a ton of non profit human right organizations watching closely at those kinds of actions. A lot of a**holes got arrested for hurting kids and teens in Cambodia for stealing. It's illegal to kill people in Cambodia unless they come to threaten your life first. It's also illegal to carry any kinds of guns/rifles without permission letter from the government. Illegal guns in Cambodia is 5 times what it costs you over here, and holder will be put in jail for 1-5 years if got caught.

Zaku 01-20-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark (Post 117848)
I have to butt in and say you're wrong. There a ton of non profit human right organizations watching closely at those kinds of actions. A lot of a**holes got arrested for hurting kids and teens in Cambodia for stealing. It's illegal to kill people in Cambodia unless they come to threaten your life first. It's also illegal to carry any kinds of guns/rifles without permission letter from the government. Illegal guns in Cambodia is 5 times what it costs you over here, and holder will be put in jail for 1-5 years if got caught.

Dark for your information, I work for one of those non profit human right organization, my current project is to clean up the country side of Vietnam and Thailand. I work children project, children who parents were either arrested for drug selling, or have jobs such as prostitution. I have done work with people on the Cambodia side.The only acception was last March I was put to helping Japan and it's crisis. I just helped work in my home country of Thailand for the flood recently. I know what's happening.

DO you know how hard it is for a government of Cambodia who is some what corrupt in different provinces from stopping illegal arms traders who make fake copies of AK47 and different weapons. Do you know how easy it is for drug traffic from Thailand to go into Cambodia? Some families train their kid early on to sell these drugs, or be look out for the authorities. And when they don't do it right, they are shot right off.

Don't tell me I'm wrong, you've probably never stepped foot into southeast Asia. And even if you did I'm sure you've never gone into the villages of the jungle to help make arrests. SO Please,in a dream world Im sure those laws work. Unfortunately this isn't.

Reality sucks.It's legal when the authorities wont stop it or look the other way.

Dimman 01-20-2012 08:43 PM

^ I believe Dark is Cambodian.

serialk11r 01-20-2012 08:47 PM

In China, I think you get death penalty for possessing firearms. Same for drug dealers. Trafficking is probably a lot of years in labor camp. Possessing a certain quantity of illicit substances also warrants death penalty.

On the other hand stuff like theft happens a lot, there's just a lot of opportunity for that to happen.

Mr.Jay 01-20-2012 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 117817)
Ouch Mr. Jay, that sounds pretty bad...

Can you really fault them? They brought me over from a 3rd world country where my life is already 100x better than what it could of been and I act like a little shit doing whatever stupid thing I want without consideration or gratitude to my hard working parents.

Besides I learned to smarten up real fast or at least lie better hahahaha

serialk11r 01-20-2012 08:53 PM

I understand, I'm just saying it's one of the more harsh things I've heard...;)

Zaku 01-20-2012 09:10 PM

Sorry guys/gals I get pretty worked up over these things I don't mean to come off as hostile. It's because I work directly with this stuff. I'm actually sad that later this year I'll be moving away from the children programs, as I finished my second and third degree( yeah I'm suicidal in a way I dual major) I start my internship with the United Nation and I'm hoping that I'll be moved into corruption investigation and prevention wing of the organization. So that governments are sure to help prevent killing of innocence. Laws are paper until someone stands for them unfortunately disaster countries and third world countries have it worst then we all do. Children get the worst of it. It's going to take more than the UN and many organization and kind hearted people to stop these problems.

Honestly my view on child discipline is very Asian traditional, I even agree with that Tiger mom that was on tv recently. Something are crazy but it just lessons that must be learned.

Dark 01-20-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaku (Post 117856)
Dark for your information, I work for one of those non profit human right organization, my current project is to clean up the country side of Vietnam and Thailand. I work children project, children who parents were either arrested for drug selling, or have jobs such as prostitution. I have done work with people on the Cambodia side.The only acception was last March I was put to helping Japan and it's crisis. I just helped work in my home country of Thailand for the flood recently. I know what's happening.

DO you know how hard it is for a government of Cambodia who is some what corrupt in different provinces from stopping illegal arms traders who make fake copies of AK47 and different weapons. Do you know how easy it is for drug traffic from Thailand to go into Cambodia? Some families train their kid early on to sell these drugs, or be look out for the authorities. And when they don't do it right, they are shot right off.

Don't tell me I'm wrong, you've probably never stepped foot into southeast Asia. And even if you did I'm sure you've never gone into the villages of the jungle to help make arrests. SO Please,in a dream world Im sure those laws work. Unfortunately this isn't.

Reality sucks.It's legal when the authorities wont stop it or look the other way.

It's not hard for Cambodian government to stop drug and weapon trafficking at all. Cambodian government is like a mafia group. President let all those gunners and drug dealers do the dirty job and finish them off after using them. However, I'm not talking about drug dealing and arm trading, I'm talking about shooting and killing people, which were what you were talking about. It's still illegal to carry gun without permission letter and kill people in Cambodia. You were saying it's not illegal, so...?
Dimman is right, I'm a Cambodian. I only lived in the Capital city( went to jungles, farms many times), where business competition is more dangerous than gun fire exchange in the jungle. I say, those jungle is not even 1% as crazy as what it is in the capital city.

Zaku 01-20-2012 10:24 PM

I was there to witness when they had a firing squad kill illegal traffic and drug dealers, I know it's illegal to kill people it's not legal anywhere except maybe Somalia but they lack a government. Thought I thought it was pretty unfair that the government would shoot teenagers with the dealers. My job back then was to make sure the teenagers would get pardoned or sent to a sentence. But not everyone got off. I can't get more into it because I'm under classification. But I think you've heard of the incidents between Thailand and Cambodia in recent years.

Your right it's illegal, but that's not going to stop a dealer from shooting a person and getting away with it, the Cambodian government is like a mafia and just like you said that they look the other way and clean up later.Things become legal once the government is paid off, the government is corrupt so much that honestly I wouldn't trust them to uphold anything that wont benefit them. Heck your capital city business war, I'm sure that has government corrupt backing behind all of it too as well. It's not even that hard to get a permission letter being out in the jungle, you can easily ask for a rifle to protect your cattle or farm from burglars or armed militia group or arms dealers.

Dark 01-20-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaku (Post 117909)
I was there to witness when they had a firing squad kill illegal traffic and drug dealers, I know it's illegal to kill people it's not legal anywhere except maybe Somalia but they lack a government. Thought I thought it was pretty unfair that the government would shoot teenagers with the dealers. My job back then was to make sure the teenagers would get pardoned or sent to a sentence. But not everyone got off. I can't get more into it because I'm under classification.

Your right it's illegal, but that's not going to stop a dealer from shooting a person and getting away with it, the Cambodian government is like a mafia and just like you said that they look the other way and clean up later.Things become legal once the government is paid off, the government is corrupt so much that honestly I wouldn't trust them to uphold anything that wont benefit them. Heck your capital city business war, I'm sure that has government corrupt backing behind all of it too as well. It's not even that hard to get a permission letter being out in the jungle, you can easily ask for a rifle to protect your cattle or farm from burglars or armed militia group or arms dealers.

You're right. Sometimes it's unfair, and hurt to see, but we can't do anything about it. Cambodian government is behind everything benefits them, no wonder. It just happens everywhere in Southeast Asia + China. There is no way you can carry a gun legally in Cambodia unless you pay to get into military, police department or other government organizations. Those permission letters issued to regular people are fake.


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