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Ryan86 04-11-2013 03:59 PM

86 High & STD models available
 
Hi guys,
Anyone looking for a 86, stock is available in various colors and models.
Call Jason on 0782795236
Jason can also assist with OEM parts and competitive prices.:thumbsup:

Sudhir 04-11-2013 04:55 PM

Thanks, where's he based?

tm86 04-12-2013 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sudhir (Post 858611)
Thanks, where's he based?

Tyger Valley.
He didn't sound as enthusiastic as Ryan86 (about stock levels).

BentAnat 04-12-2013 04:18 AM

AAAAAAND that just got sent to my dealership. Maybe they can trade my yet-to-be made one for one of those... we'll see what they say.

Ryan86 04-12-2013 04:30 AM

What color you looking for and spec.

BentAnat 04-12-2013 04:58 AM

I just called the dealership in Swakopmund.
Swapping "from stock" is a PITA to say the least, since they have to handle double transportation, export, import, vat claims, etc.
As such, they try to swap "from production" rather, meaning that they look at the production line, see what's coming up, and call the destination dealership, offering a trade.

That explanation makes sense to me.

For example, I know that in the next few weeks, Imperial Bedfordview, Imperial Randburg, McCarthy Empangeni and NTT Barberton are getting STD spec Satin white pearl standard ones (like I ordered).

The good news is that according to the dealership, Toyota SA has forecast the sale of mine for June, meaning that delivery should happen sometime then.

I do feel that this thread is valuable, though... simply because I know there's a few people on here looking and waiting, and inside the borders, swaps like that are easy.

ZakD 04-25-2013 07:08 AM

Homeless Silver 86
 
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Sorry to hijack guys :D

We just got this abandoned homeless silver beauty that has arrived. Standard spec, with 6347 km's on the clock.

Can call Imraan on 031 949 6514 if interested.

Shot!

tm86 04-25-2013 07:24 AM

I got a call yesterday from Imperial Kempton saying that they are receiving a black high spec soon.

tm86 04-26-2013 08:45 AM

Jason has a Silver 86C (Auto) available immediately.

tm86 05-08-2013 03:28 PM

Jason has a red 86 available.

Samurai 20V 05-08-2013 04:29 PM

Gave up waiting, been so since September..

Eventually cancelled the order..

Golf GTi, here I come!

tm86 05-09-2013 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Samurai 20V (Post 920152)
Gave up waiting, been so since September..

Eventually cancelled the order..

Golf GTi, here I come!

Dude, cars are available you just have to do the leg work.

But since you decided to go for the GTi maybe the 86 wouldn't suit your requirements. These 2 are poles apart in every way.

Naughty 05-09-2013 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Samurai 20V (Post 920152)
Gave up waiting, been so since September..

Eventually cancelled the order..

Golf GTi, here I come!

Noooooo, dont do it dude.

BentAnat 05-10-2013 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tm86 (Post 921544)
Dude, cars are available you just have to do the leg work.

Yes and No.
The thing is, there's a certain degree of "cool" in getting YOUR car. The one YOU ordered.
The dealerships/dealer network are f***ing some of us around BADLY in terms of waiting lists, and once you cross borders (like in my case, where I have been waiting for a white STD manual 86 since December, and have yet to get a PRODUCTION date), it becomes a real, royal PITA to get your hands on one.

To be Honest, I am scared shitless of importing one, since it's a well documented that our dealerships get full of nonsense when you import ANYTHING (same with Volvo, BMW, and most other brands. The notable exception here is Mercedes, who don't care). This is due to Japanese imports are legal here.

I have been in contact with Barloworld Tygerberg, and am waiting for them to call me to explain how EXACTLY such an import would work.

Anyway... enough about that... If I were in SA, I'd also be shopping around. Doesn't change the fact that CLEARLY, some dealerships have a way to shortcut the waiting list, where others are being shafted.

tm86 05-10-2013 02:40 AM

BentAnat, unfortunately your location is an issue.

I waited a week for mine. I called about 10 dealers around Jhb. They also mentioned other unallocated cars either available immediately or within the month.

BentAnat 05-10-2013 04:54 AM

@tm86 - yeah... I am aware of that... It just makes no sense to me that South African dealerships are chasing after buyer when there's guys waiting for months on end just across the border (and seemingly inside SA as well). Seems to me that some dealerships are overbudgeting for their demand when others are struggling to fill a SINGLE order.

I know my dealership is calling around as well and asking for incoming 86's in the spec that are unallocated, so that they can get one for me. All the dealerships in SA so far are giving them the finger.

Vladror 05-10-2013 05:04 AM

it's the way the dealerships are organized as independent and competing franchises.
Personally i don't think it's in Toyota's and the consumer's best interest but that's the way it is. If you've been following the problems Tesla has in the US trying to sell their cars directly to the public, you realise things here could be even worse

BentAnat 05-10-2013 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vladror (Post 924153)
it's the way the dealerships are organized as independent and competing franchises.
Personally i don't think it's in Toyota's and the consumer's best interest but that's the way it is. If you've been following the problems Tesla has in the US trying to sell their cars directly to the public, you realise things here could be even worse

The point you make is indeed very valid.

Samurai 20V 05-10-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tm86 (Post 921544)
Dude, cars are available you just have to do the leg work.

But since you decided to go for the GTi maybe the 86 wouldn't suit your requirements. These 2 are poles apart in every way.

86 was the ideal car, everyday entertaining ride.... To be honest, I would be settling for a GTi, but I am not prepared to wait so long.. Being a TSA employee, my order is pushed to the bottom of the list, customers orders are prioritized.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naughty (Post 921555)
Noooooo, dont do it dude.

Wish I didnt have to bru, but been waiting since September...

Sudhir 05-10-2013 06:19 PM

Don't give up, it all depends who you speak to, I waited 3 months for mine and nothing happened, then I spoke to Jason from barloworld tygervalley and a week later(today) he got me the colour and spec I wanted as well as with the best service. He has a standard red spec available currently.

Ryan86 05-11-2013 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudhir (Post 925655)
Don't give up, it all depends who you speak to, I waited 3 months for mine and nothing happened, then I spoke to Jason from barloworld tygervalley and a week later(today) he got me the colour and spec I wanted as well as with the best service. He has a standard red spec available currently.

What you looking for.

Sudhir 05-11-2013 03:01 AM

I'm not looking for anything, I got my car yesterday :)

tm86 05-12-2013 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Samurai 20V (Post 924795)
Being a TSA employee, my order is pushed to the bottom of the list, customers orders are prioritized..

Could this have anything to do with an employee discount?

Samurai 20V 05-12-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tm86 (Post 928498)
Could this have anything to do with an employee discount?

Nothing to do with a discount, its because of the demand...

Sudhir 05-22-2013 09:19 AM

Jason now has a red high spec available if anyone's interested.

tm86 05-22-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sudhir (Post 952003)
Jason now has a red high spec available if anyone's interested.

did you he call you too? :bellyroll:

Sudhir 05-24-2013 12:49 PM

And here I thought I was special :(

Strat 06-20-2013 02:17 PM

I'm genuinely surprised that some dealers are able to link buyers up so quickly. I had a high spec model on order since last September. Eventually cancelled in Feb this year as I had no feedback on where in the process it was. According to the system, it was not scheduled for build. Of course no one could explain that cryptic message either. So someone then got the benefit of my cancellation :) I still want one though. Just not patient enough it seems. But this time I want the auto. So, called a few dealers in Gauteng today. 8 weeks to 4 months is the response. Wish I had the luck of some of the forumites ;) maybe next year.

Vladror 06-20-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Strat (Post 1014177)
I'm genuinely surprised that some dealers are able to link buyers up so quickly. I had a high spec model on order since last September. Eventually cancelled in Feb this year as I had no feedback on where in the process it was. According to the system, it was not scheduled for build. Of course no one could explain that cryptic message either. So someone then got the benefit of my cancellation :) I still want one though. Just not patient enough it seems. But this time I want the auto. So, called a few dealers in Gauteng today. 8 weeks to 4 months is the response. Wish I had the luck of some of the forumites ;) maybe next year.

contact toyota head office or dealers in other provinces and you might get lucky...
Even subaru in cpt had a BRZ standing on the floor today, i would have thought these things would have sold way in advance. You never know who has stock when so keep calling, i waited a week for mine...
ps: keep cash at hand cause that seals the deal

NamSin 06-20-2013 02:56 PM

^this^
I drove 6 hours to Pietersburg to pick up mine and search took less than a week.
They are out there if you widen your search.

Fish Eagle 06-20-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NamSin (Post 1014294)
They are out there if you widen your search.

*This*

An hour or two with the GAU, NW, LIM & MPU phonebooks and you could get lucky.
They're out there - you've just got to find them.
The right salesman who's hungry for business and prepared to put in some effort will get you a car.

This is my story - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=2723

Good luck!!

Strat 06-20-2013 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladror (Post 1014227)
contact toyota head office or dealers in other provinces and you might get lucky...
Even subaru in cpt had a BRZ standing on the floor today, i would have thought these things would have sold way in advance. You never know who has stock when so keep calling, i waited a week for mine...
ps: keep cash at hand cause that seals the deal



Good advice. I'll start the groundwork.

Strat 06-20-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 1014513)
*This*

An hour or two with the GAU, NW, LIM & MPU phonebooks and you could get lucky.
They're out there - you've just got to find them.
The right salesman who's hungry for business and prepared to put in some effort will get you a car.

This is my story - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=2723

Good luck!!

Thanks. Will give it a go.

BentAnat 06-21-2013 02:37 AM

so - >6 months in the wait now, Still no production date.
I have spoken to the guys from Barloworld Tygerberg, and the best I got out of them was the promise of emailing me information on importing, and pushiness about wanting me to promise that I'd take one the moment they find one. Then - nothing.

I spoke to a mate at Subaru the other day, and he advised STRONGLY against importing myself, suggesting that the dealerships should work with each other. Otherwise I'd have to call the Dealer principal for every.little.thing, which would ruin ownership.

I am still going to hang on for another month or two, but by now, it looks like Subaru might be able to get me a BRZ in somewhat of a hurry (mainly because they're not as FOS as out 'yota dealerships) should I want to.... but ouch... 100K extra for stuff I don't want.

GavinAnt 06-26-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strat (Post 1014177)
I'm genuinely surprised that some dealers are able to link buyers up so quickly. I had a high spec model on order since last September. Eventually cancelled in Feb this year as I had no feedback on where in the process it was. According to the system, it was not scheduled for build. Of course no one could explain that cryptic message either. So someone then got the benefit of my cancellation :) I still want one though. Just not patient enough it seems. But this time I want the auto. So, called a few dealers in Gauteng today. 8 weeks to 4 months is the response. Wish I had the luck of some of the forumites ;) maybe next year.

I have a friend selling an orange auto, slightly used, if you're interested....

Razzle 06-26-2013 08:02 PM

Market Toyota Athlone in College Road has 2 in stock.
High specs
Speak to Hoosain or Shihaam

BentAnat 06-27-2013 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strat (Post 1014177)
I'm genuinely surprised that some dealers are able to link buyers up so quickly. I had a high spec model on order since last September. Eventually cancelled in Feb this year as I had no feedback on where in the process it was. According to the system, it was not scheduled for build. Of course no one could explain that cryptic message either. So someone then got the benefit of my cancellation :) I still want one though. Just not patient enough it seems. But this time I want the auto. So, called a few dealers in Gauteng today. 8 weeks to 4 months is the response. Wish I had the luck of some of the forumites ;) maybe next year.

I was in this exact boat.
As far as I understand this situation (and as I said - I have weighed up all options by now):
Your dealership orders the car in your spec.
Then Toyota gives them a "very" rough estimation of when they expect to tbe able to give you a build date, since they have to make sure that the right dealers get the right amounts of the right cars, etc.

Your dealership may try to swap with another dealership. Basically go "Hey, buddy - we have one in this spec coming sometime in the future. You have one now - wanna swap?". Other dealerships may or may not agree to this, since all Toyota dealerships compete with each other.

Until your dealership gets a build entitlement, they can do nothing but try to swap.

The dealerships that manage to get the cars for their clients QUICKLY are the ones that are either willing to trade, or ordered WAY back already, and essentially have a steady flow of incoming vehicles, where they guessed the spec that people would want.

I was in this very same boat until 2 days ago.
I ordered a pearl white standard spec in December. I heard NOTHING (except for the order confirmation) for month on end. Me being in Namibia made it even worse, since cross-border swaps are quite complex.
I called the dealership regularly to find out how far we were, and got "Sorry, no build date yet - we're trying to swap every week".
I talked to Jason at Barloworld, who sounded keen initially, until I wouldn't commit "blindly" to a buy, since Cross-border means the guys can make your life a bit more difficult than it needs to be (meaning that for every little thing you end up calling the dealer principal, who then MAKES the local dealerships/garages help you).
Trust me, I exhausted MANY options.
I finally got a build entitlement for August 2013 two days ago. Since then, I am like a kid in a candy store... FINALLY, I am getting my damn car in September.

Fish Eagle 06-27-2013 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BentAnat (Post 1028966)
I finally got a build entitlement for August 2013 two days ago. Since then, I am like a kid in a candy store... FINALLY, I am getting my damn car in September.

:w00t:

Vladror 06-27-2013 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BentAnat (Post 1028966)
I finally got a build entitlement for August 2013 two days ago. Since then, I am like a kid in a candy store... FINALLY, I am getting my damn car in September.

awesome, although you'll find that from now on, time will start going even slower :)

BentAnat 06-27-2013 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladror (Post 1029056)
awesome, although you'll find that from now on, time will start going even slower :)

Hahaha... no doubt.
It is kinda cool knowing that I am getting one that's been "mine" from the moment the parts were manufactured, though...


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