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Timmy_Jones 04-11-2013 12:24 PM

Why isn't Hot Lava more popular?
 
In reply to the Whiteout thread, why isn't Lava more popular of a color? Do you guys not like it? Couldn't find one? The exterior clashes with the interior?

Just curious. If I had the choice, I would go Lava or Firestorm at this point.

L3P47 04-11-2013 12:26 PM

In my opinion it's the ugly color for the FR-S. I know Hot Lava is rare, but i've only seen 3 Firestorm counting mine in the North Georgia/ Chattanooga area. Seems pretty rare here as well.

CaptainSlow 04-11-2013 12:28 PM

Because people don't like it? I mean kind of a ridiculous question, isn't it? Why is any non-popular thing unpopular?

Mandy 04-11-2013 12:38 PM

I actually like the color. The reason I would only consider Firestorm or Whiteout was because of the seat inserts and interior accents. I thought the red looked odd on the orange, so I went with Firestorm. Still dreaming about Whiteout though.

m.box.design 04-11-2013 12:43 PM

In my opinion, hot lava often looks dull, unless it's in the sun, then it's probably the most amazing color out of the bunch.

Apex Chase 04-11-2013 12:46 PM

I love Hot Lava and that is what I plan on ordering assuming something better doesn't come along for the 2014MY. I don't get what the hang up is over the red interior stitching effecting the decision on the exterior color. I don't consider the color of the brick on the outside of my house when I paint a room inside.

Wes 04-11-2013 12:47 PM

Hot Lava isn't everyones cup of tea, but I'll admit that if you do the right thing mods, it does look pretty darn good.

Anthonytpt 04-11-2013 12:48 PM

I think it's reasonable to conclude that it's because consumers are going with their personal preference, not trying to balance out Toyota's spreadsheet. That and it's more noticeable to Johnny Law whilst he's staring at highways and roads full of white and silver vehicles.

SilentAngel 04-11-2013 12:50 PM

I really don't like the color at all... asked a dealer about it when pre-ordering my FR-S, and he said it was one of those colors that "you either love it or hate it."

MVJ1975 04-11-2013 12:50 PM

Personally, it's one of my favorite colors for the car. Can't help you there.

strat61caster 04-11-2013 12:51 PM

I like it alot,

Orange is a "LOOK AT ME" color, not as many people have that personality as you would think, I know I don't. If a hot lava had come in with no options I would have bought it, alas the Asphalt arrived first, you really can't go too wrong with any of the colors (glad Toyota is finally taking risks! lol)

ChristosG 04-11-2013 12:53 PM

I have a hot lava and it's great when it's sunny outside but during the winter it just looks dull and brown.

Xdragonxb0i 04-11-2013 12:53 PM

It just too bold for everyone. I never considered hot lava until. After I got my silver FRS. Hot lava makes a great color for show cars. It stands out and attract attention

Biggins 04-11-2013 12:56 PM

From a 2012 Forbes article, "white, silver, gray and black vehicles vastly outnumber cars of other colors, not just in the United States, but the world over. Collectively, they account for 76 percent of the automotive market."

People don't like color! I'd argue the percentage is higher than that. Take a look at the cars on the highway on your drive home. They're all white, silver, gray, or black.

husker741 04-11-2013 12:58 PM

If the orange were brighter like this, I would have a hot lava right now. Too many times it looks so dull.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...psb15fc01e.jpg

UnOvertime 04-11-2013 12:58 PM

I originally wanted a Hot Lava to the point where I was waiting on it to come in. However I walked on another lot one day and found the Firstorm and didn't love the Lava enough to justify a few month wait. I also wanted the automatic which made finding a Hot Lava even harder. For me it just came down to them not having the color in stock or else I would have walked away with it.

zaptorque 04-11-2013 12:59 PM

I've only seen one hot lava and loved it. My biggest hang up with getting it was that I thought I would get tired of it after a while.

MVJ1975 04-11-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggins (Post 857681)
From a 2012 Forbes article, "white, silver, gray and black vehicles vastly outnumber cars of other colors, not just in the United States, but the world over. Collectively, they account for 76 percent of the automotive market."

People don't like color! I'd argue the percentage is higher than that. Take a look at the cars on the highway on your drive home. They're all white, silver, gray, or black.

Exactly. People are boring.

naikaidriver 04-11-2013 01:05 PM

I personally love the Hot Lava, especially on a bright, sunny day!

When I was first looking at buying an FRS, I was still driving my black BMW and was swearing off dark/black cars forever and really wanted something different. The Hot Lava and Firestorm were the colors I REALLY wanted!

Of course, when I finally saw the Asphalt in person...

Scott

firl21 04-11-2013 01:10 PM

Mine is hot lava

Demandred7 04-11-2013 01:16 PM

Unless a ton of people order Hot Lava and are willing to wait for their cars, everyone will be at the mercy of what Toyota's sales arm thinks will sell. I actually quite like the color, but, after test driving the car and also finding that I like Firestorm, I couldn't wait the time it would take to order the car in a different color (although my favorite colors have varied during the past year). I have had months of driving enjoyment that would have been otherwise shortened by waiting for another colour choice.

Tucson FR-S 04-11-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggins (Post 857681)
From a 2012 Forbes article, "white, silver, gray and black vehicles vastly outnumber cars of other colors, not just in the United States, but the world over. Collectively, they account for 76 percent of the automotive market."

People don't like color! I'd argue the percentage is higher than that. Take a look at the cars on the highway on your drive home. They're all white, silver, gray, or black.

The one bright color you sometimes see in cars on the road is red. Hot Lava is the one real outlier in the FR-S palette. (I would have bought one if it had been in stock.)

TouchMyHonda 04-11-2013 01:18 PM

Because its a color most people would get sick of after a while.

vtmike 04-11-2013 01:19 PM

I'm curious on how they came up with the color distribution. At my dealer they weren't doing preorders so you got what ever color they happened to receive. Not sure if the dealer had any say so in the colors they receive. Unlike the Subaru dealer where all of their cars they receive are preorders by the customer.

Guess the scion dealer and I were lucky that the first manual they got was a hot lava because I would have bought the wr blue Brz I had on preorder next door otherwise.

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Nevermore 04-11-2013 01:33 PM

Scion/Toyota probably assumed it wouldn't sell as much as it is a different color than most people are used to so they just didn't make as many. It's a big part availability.

The other thing I would guess is it's just an out-there, bright color. People like normal colors. I bet even someone with orange as their favorite color wouldn't put it on their car, it's just not a normal vehicle color. Personally though, while red is a sports car color, I've always seen orange as an exotic/sports car color. I got Hot Lava because I've always wanted an orange sports car. That's what I got pulled in on.

alderaan34 04-11-2013 01:40 PM

I really like my hot lava, I saw three of them here in San Antonio and they all sold pretty quick.

xrs 04-11-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda (Post 857759)
Because its a color most people would get sick of after a while.

I second that! I think it's just a color that'll eventually lose it's appeal. Had an old co-worker of mine who bought an atomic orange vette...looked great at first but after a while, you don't quite notice the hint of orange as much but more of the overall base brown color.

lemonspeakers 04-11-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indesign (Post 857625)
In my opinion, hot lava often looks dull, unless it's in the sun, then it's probably the most amazing color out of the bunch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes (Post 857641)
Hot Lava isn't everyones cup of tea, but I'll admit that if you do the right thing mods, it does look pretty darn good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristosG (Post 857665)
I have a hot lava and it's great when it's sunny outside but during the winter it just looks dull and brown.

The first and only time I saw a hot lava FRS was on a overcast day. It looked like a rusty, brown car. Not sexy in any way. I thought it was nasty.

In many pictures you see here in the forums, the hot lava FRS is in direct sunlight <-- Don't get me wrong, but they look sexy as hell!

vtmike 04-11-2013 01:52 PM

I've had mine nearly a year and it's still my favorite color for the car.

One of the things I like the most is its rarity. As the twins are becoming more and more common (especially the frs) at least my car is still somewhat rare because of the uncommon color. I hope they don't offer hot lava for 14' making it even more rare.

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russv 04-11-2013 02:05 PM

I originally ordered a Hot Lava as I really liked the color and saw one at the 1st 86 event in Long Beach, but I felt that in the long run the color was perhaps too trendy and would fall from favor after a few years making resale a bit tougher. That said, I wish now I would have gotten it as it is striking and a real eye catcher.

Nevermore 04-11-2013 02:07 PM

Also, I see a lot of people calling it dull and unattractive in anything but direct sunlight, but personally I like how moody this color can be depending on the lighting. It can look completely different morning/noon/evening, and I don't think it's rusty/brown on overcast days. It looks more burnt orange than bright orange, like more red was added. I'm biased though, I love my hot lava.

4agze 04-11-2013 02:14 PM

Lava its a nice color but I feel like as the car age the color may look funny like example back in late 90's to early 2000 yellow was ok now it looks funny or what they call a fad color.

SmokeyDB 04-11-2013 02:15 PM

I have a hot lava fr-s and I love the color. The only other color I really liked is the Subaru blue. I only had the option of the hot lava or whiteout when I bought mine though so I didn't have a chance to see the other colors in person. All the other fr-s on the lot were automatic whiteouts.

naikaidriver 04-11-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 857908)
Lava its a nice color but I feel like as the car age the color may look funny like example back in late 90's to early 2000 yellow was ok now it looks funny or what they call a fad color.

Don't forget TEAL!

Remember how many cars came in that god awful color in the late 80's?

(I just saw a beat-up, rusted-out, teal, IROC-Z being driven by a redneck on my way back from lunch!)

Scott

vtmike 04-11-2013 02:22 PM

I would have considered one in yellow. Looks good on the s2000.

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njccmd2002 04-11-2013 02:22 PM

lava is not popular because white is the popular one. Cant have 2 popular colors, duh!

4agze 04-11-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naikaidriver (Post 857926)
Don't forget TEAL!

Remember how many cars came in that god awful color in the late 80's?

(I just saw a beat-up, rusted-out, teal, IROC-Z being driven by a redneck on my way back from lunch!)

Scott

Yeah true

FRSupra 04-11-2013 02:36 PM

HL is the only color that allows the car to look sporty while still staying serious. Normally silver is that color, but argento imo makes the car look cheap. It's my favorite color on the 86, followed closely by ultramarine.

White is so popular because it's a color chosen by all the tuners to make their cars flow. I think it started with euro cars, for some odd reason almost everyone my age is in love with audi,bmw,vw.

kthxbai 04-11-2013 02:49 PM

I think the hot lava is an acquired taste, some people think it's too loud of a color, while others think it's ugly. With all the lines on this car, IMHO I think it looks good in all the colors it's produced in including World Rally Blue for the BRZ. It's not a mainstream color b/c most people like the home grown colors.

AZOOZ_95 04-11-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandy (Post 857608)
I actually like the color. The reason I would only consider Firestorm or Whiteout was because of the seat inserts and interior accents. I thought the red looked odd on the orange, so I went with Firestorm. Still dreaming about Whiteout though.

Thats the only reason why i want to get firestorm.:thumbup:


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