Well, we couldn't just stop with the UEL Borla header. We had to do the EL Borla header for the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ, as well.

We got this in to test on our silver car to see which makes more torque. The EL or the UEL? We're headed to the dyno next week to get that sorted out, but for now we have pics. Video is being edited and will be up tomorrow. :)

After hearing both, I can tell you I am way more of an UEL fan.



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Video comparing EL vs UEL:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nov2c0gIBF8"]Borla EL Header vs UEL Header Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]



It was a little rainy and cold yesterday so we didn't get a chance to do drive by's and others. As soon as the weather clears up we'll get those as well.

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 854618) Looks like the flange isn't bent in that picture! :thumbup: Interested to see if you get close results on the dyno than Borla did. Probably will since there's no change really in the secondaries length.

Originally Posted by sweeney208 (Post 854633) did you have that problem too? i got mine and the flange was soo warped. called borla and they sent me a new one with no problems but still a pain in the ass to swap. anybody else running the uel without anything else? i went with only the header until I can get money to finish the exhaust and it sounds absolutely awful. to the point that i'm putting the stock header back on until I can get at least a cat back.

Originally Posted by sweeney208 (Post 854633) did you have that problem too? i got mine and the flange was soo warped. called borla and they sent me a new one with no problems but still a pain in the ass to swap. anybody else running the uel without anything else? i went with only the header until I can get money to finish the exhaust and it sounds absolutely awful. to the point that i'm putting the stock header back on until I can get at least a cat back.

Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 854679) Define "awful"

Originally Posted by sweeney208 (Post 854718) it sounds like a honda with a pep boys exhaust. the first time i drove it after the install i thought it had a leak because of the raspy sound. all the videos ive seen had a cat back also and the borla gave it that deep boxer rumble, which borlas are known for a good deep powerful sound. Its almost embarrassing when people check out my car and then i start driving and they hear a whining sound.

Originally Posted by wootwoot (Post 854852) I wanted to go that route... that sucks....

Originally Posted by sweeney208 (Post 854896) get a cat back with it. every video I've heard with a cat back sounds amazing. i love the borla uel with the nameless cat back. mmmm :thumbsup: but my advice, don't go with just the header.. :barf: sorry to be the debby downer haha

Originally Posted by Turdinator (Post 856365) Could you take a video before you remove it so we can hear for ourselves?

Originally Posted by sweeney208 (Post 858768) i took a video.. but gotta be honest I can not for the life of me figure out how to get it on here. the funny thing is that as I was taking it, a kid that knew my car when I bought it asked if I bottomed out because my car now sounds like "a honda with a fartcan" anybody know how to get the video from my phone to here? tried to just upload it to the site from my phone but it says i cant do that. sorry lol

Originally Posted by Sniper2606 (Post 884556) Just got my BRZ today, im going to do this setup after around 1k miles, but dealer said that i a tune will be needed if changing the headers?

Originally Posted by sweeney208 (Post 858768) i took a video.. but gotta be honest I can not for the life of me figure out how to get it on here. the funny thing is that as I was taking it, a kid that knew my car when I bought it asked if I bottomed out because my car now sounds like "a honda with a fartcan" anybody know how to get the video from my phone to here? tried to just upload it to the site from my phone but it says i cant do that. sorry lol

Some updated info.

Current Upgrades:
Engine & Exhaust
FT-86 SpeedFactory V1 Exhaust
Borla EL style header or UEL
Perrin Overpipe
Invidia Resonated frontpipe
aFe Takeda Intake

Wheels & Tires
Enkei RPF1 17x9+35 Matte Black
Hankook RS-3 in 255/40/17
Drop Engineering Lug Nuts
(This combo adds more surface area and 1.5lbs per corner over stock)

Fuel
91 Octane

Tune
FA20Club Stage 2

The pulls we did are done in 4th gear. Sampling started right around 3000rpm.

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/frsborlauelvsel.jpg


Dyno Video
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqeB4eOTvK0"]Borla Header Dyno for the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]


Drive By Video
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0UcqE_HwVQ"]Borla EL Header Scion FRS and Subaru BRZ - Drive By's - YouTube[/ame]

Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 887556) more info about the testing please... How many days between UEL and EL... was the ecu reset etc... Looks to me like the EL run has a few degrees of timing advance pulled out of it. Either that or the Borla El does not flow any better than stock.. so eliminating all other variables is key.

Originally Posted by Opposed (Post 887585) Wow, very interesting. EL looks more like stock. Seems now the best set up is a good UEL and tune, or a long tube EL set up for curing the torque dip...

Originally Posted by BRZ? (Post 888420) damn, i was expecting EL to make more power

Originally Posted by jimmer1290 (Post 2202732) Does the borla el or uel headers have a cat in them, I am looking at getting one of these for my car and do a greddy exhaust but I do not want to tune my car just yet. Is it possible to switch headers and not require a tuning?