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russv 04-08-2013 06:24 PM

After market exhaust and auto trans
 
I was wondering how an after market exhaust sounds with an automatic and wanted to get feedback from those that have done it. I'm leaning toward a Nameless or Perrin axleback system but am concerned how it sounds coupled with an auto. I see to many auto Hondas' with sh*t can exhausts and I just don't want to sound like them. Comments please.

liquidsky44 04-08-2013 06:58 PM

I'm on hks hi-power and it sound very similiar to a scirocco on dsg gearbox.

SloS14 04-08-2013 07:01 PM

it'll sound like bwaaahhhhh...bwahhhhh..bwaaaaaahhhhhhh. But seriously.

mezdup 04-08-2013 07:04 PM

@russv transmission doesn't really effect the sound of an exhaust. if you have an auto though i recommend you drive in manual mode because it'll let you stay in gear longer instead of rushing to 6th automatically. so it'll let you enjoy your exhaust as much as someone with a manual car.

russv 04-08-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezdup (Post 850851)
@russv transmission doesn't really effect the sound of an exhaust. if you have an auto though i recommend you drive in manual mode because it'll let you stay in gear longer instead of rushing to 6th automatically. so it'll let you enjoy your exhaust as much as someone with a manual car.

I've listened to several videos of different exhausts and like the way they sound, but they are all manual.

Freeman 04-08-2013 08:00 PM

I doubt there will be a different exhaust note between an A/T and a M/T..... I mean they use the same engines right?

Via my Note 2

killerkid08 04-08-2013 08:06 PM

its not a question of how it sounds because to me, i love riding it in a manual mode and shifting around 3500, and it makes this nice pop. it can be a bit annoying though at low rpms when its well slow auto shifting, and just kinda sounds very unsporting and more auto trans poser with a fart cannon like.

Subie 04-08-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezdup (Post 850851)
@russv transmission doesn't really effect the sound of an exhaust. if you have an auto though i recommend you drive in manual mode because it'll let you stay in gear longer instead of rushing to 6th automatically. so it'll let you enjoy your exhaust as much as someone with a manual car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeman (Post 850973)
I doubt there will be a different exhaust note between an A/T and a M/T..... I mean they use the same engines right?

Via my Note 2

The transmission has a HUGE impact on the exhaust sound. With a manual, apart from starting out from a stop, there is typically a constant change in the exhaust note as the engine speed increases proportionally with speed. With an automatic, until you surpass the stall speed of the torque converter, there is a disproportionate increase in vehicle speed with respect to engine speed, so the exhaust note sounds rather blah (and can tend to drone) when you're not thrashing the car.

Pandle 04-08-2013 08:17 PM

Everyone is right you pretty much have to be in manual mode every time you drive or it just doesnt sound good. Since the day I got mine installed I've driven in manual mode every where I go and it sounds the way its supposed to. I have a video revving my engine but none of me driving. Hope it helps.http://m.youtube.com/results?q=brz%2...?v=rCuM6hEZClM

boredom.is.me 04-08-2013 08:46 PM

There is an auto camaro here on campus with a straight pipe. I want to burn it.

Freeman 04-08-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subie (Post 851015)
The transmission has a HUGE impact on the exhaust sound. With a manual, apart from starting out from a stop, there is typically a constant change in the exhaust note as the engine speed increases proportionally with speed. With an automatic, until you surpass the stall speed of the torque converter, there is a disproportionate increase in vehicle speed with respect to engine speed, so the exhaust note sounds rather blah (and can tend to drone) when you're not thrashing the car.

Well blow me down. That's interesting to read. Got any publications to back that up? Not to insult you, but I learned a long time ago to not believe what you read on the internet.

Via my Note 2

Subie 04-08-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeman (Post 851082)
Well blow me down. That's interesting to read. Got any publications to back that up? Not to insult you, but I learned a long time ago to not believe what you read on the internet.

Via my Note 2

Publications? Go on youtube and watch a few videos of automatic cars with aftermarket exhausts. I don't need no stinkin' publications!

CircuitJerk 04-08-2013 08:53 PM

Here's a mild example in manual mode as I wasn't shifting at high rpms.
It's got the SRT catback, P&L overpipe and a catless front pipe.
It's a little farty/raspy and I plan on getting the catted front pipe and adding another resonator if possible. It does sound pretty good at WOT and shifting at redline. Driving in auto sounds a bit lame. It's really too loud.


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ps89bab182.jpg
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DZyNUkg6o"]PIP35 - YouTube[/ame]

Freeman 04-08-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subie (Post 851087)
Publications? Go on youtube and watch a few videos of automatic cars with aftermarket exhausts. I don't need no stinkin' publications!

Lol well I do!

Via my Note 2

Subie 04-08-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeman (Post 851105)
Lol well I do!

Via my Note 2

http://i.imgur.com/LdrKEPo.png

CircuitJerk 05-08-2013 10:21 PM

A couple changes:
Right now, I have the catted P&L header, overpipe, catless front pipe, and a dual resonated SRT catback. Believe me when I say the added resonator helps a lot with cabin noise.
Saturday, the SRT will be swapped out for the P&L Motorsports Street Series catback.
I have a Visconti STG1 tune, but it is not yet calibrated for the header.


[ame]http://youtu.be/_TBYLNC9WhY[/ame]



In cabin

[ame]http://youtu.be/9HnUBQIKdkU[/ame]

Laika 05-08-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CircuitJerk (Post 921058)
A couple changes:
Right now, I have the catted P&L header, overpipe, catless front pipe, and a dual resonated SRT catback. Believe me when I say the added resonator helps a lot with cabin noise.
Saturday, the SRT will be swapped out for the P&L Motorsports Street Series catback.
I have a Visconti STG1 tune, but it is not yet calibrated for the header.

I don't even know what I'm doing in this thread but...


That sound... :drool:

Fantastic.

Tony Mac 05-08-2013 11:32 PM

I have a Stromung exhaust on my auto. With the transmission in manual mode, it sounds just fine. The lockup torque converter means you don't have that moaning sound in-between gears.

Tylub 05-09-2013 03:51 AM

the timing is retarded with the auto so it doesn't sound as good as manuals but it can be fixed by driving in manual mode...

nothing is wrong with the note though. I have a Perrin Header back and it sounds fantastic and I can barely hear it when I drive like a grandma and it granny shifts but nonetheless it has a nice deep grumble.

naikaidriver 05-09-2013 09:07 AM

I have the Buddy Club Spec II which is one of the loudest cat backs out there with my AT FRS and I am starting to wonder if the majority of the people posting in this thread even have an automatic 86. Most of the posts are WAY off base.

First off, even the BCS II does not drone with an AT, this is mainly because of the taller gearing I he AT so I spend that vast majority of my time under 2k rpms even at 70mph.

Second, you can get away with a louder exhaust without drawing too much attention to your self when the car is in Drive because it will always shift below 2k rpms when you aren't on it and not in Sport Mode.

I do agree with an earlier post that the exhaust sounds "best" when driving in manual, Sport Mode. The shifts are more solid and when you hold rpms to nearly 4k before shifting, it makes a really cool pause, pop sound (its hard to describe) when shifting. It sounds the best with the silencer out but this isn't really the way to go if you aren't trying to announce yourself to every law enforcement officer for a half-mile.

Bottom line, get the exhaust you want. The Perrin and Nameless are still the best out there IMHO regardless of your transmission. I only got the BCS II because of the weight difference for autocross.

Scott

Efferalgan 05-11-2013 01:17 PM

2 CircuitJerk

AAAA!!! A want that exaust!! What a sound!

ramiram1984 05-11-2013 01:47 PM

Wehhhh, wehhhh, weehhhhh, wehhhhh, wehhhh, wehhhh

rbizzle004 05-11-2013 02:00 PM

I have an automatic with the Nameless OP/FP and offset axleback and I love the sound. Sounds great.

killerkid08 05-13-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeman (Post 851082)
Well blow me down. That's interesting to read. Got any publications to back that up? Not to insult you, but I learned a long time ago to not believe what you read on the internet.

Via my Note 2

the proof is in the pudding, and that pudding is my own car. i can back that up for anyone who wants to stand by with a camera. It's not so terrible that its unbearable, but when it just goes ...


bwaaah, bwaah, bwahhhhhh, bwaahhhhh, and then starts trying to drive at 40 in 5th and falls into sixth the moment you let off the gas.

Let's just say, auto in manual mode, shifted above 3k sounds the best when you have a loud aggressive exhaust. it might be good for the deep tone low volume, but not an exhaust with balls.

Apollo_1092 05-13-2013 02:14 PM

I have the Evo3 and it's awesome driving in both auto and in manaul. In auto it's not as loud and aggressive unless you get on the gas. In manual you can ride the gear longer and hold those nice growling sounds.

Vokalharmony 05-23-2013 07:56 PM

I bought the Borla cat back system for my auto trans. I absolutely love it! I can't wait to get a cool air intake I will try to get a video recorded tonight of it, I have had it installed for about a month and a half now. I definitely notice a WHP gain, a heck of a lot easier to kick out the rear wheels. The note is deep which I love as well.

kuhlka 05-29-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vokalharmony (Post 956116)
I bought the Borla cat back system for my auto trans. I absolutely love it! I can't wait to get a cool air intake I will try to get a video recorded tonight of it, I have had it installed for about a month and a half now. I definitely notice a WHP gain, a heck of a lot easier to kick out the rear wheels. The note is deep which I love as well.

I'm looking for a nice pure bass exhaust note with none of that tin can metallic rasp I see in some videos. Seems like the Nvidia N1, Borla, or Perrin are closest to what I'm looking for, but I'm still searching. I LOVE the sound of my 05 STI's exhaust when it's just idling and putting around. You can hear it a block away, but it's just pure bass.


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