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AllDayJonRay 04-02-2013 10:40 PM

VirtualBox on Mac for EcuTek
 
Anyone currently running VirtualBox on a Mac to use EcuTek software?? EcuTek's website says that virtual machines are not supported, but I know @Visconti uses his Mac for tuning (though he uses BootCamp). I know there's at least one member on here using VirtualBox, but can't remember who.

If anyone can assist me in setting up my virtual machine, I would sincerely appreciate it. To be specific, I don't know how much RAM to allocate for the VB, or how to setup the virtual hard-drive (type to select, size...).

:thanks: in advance for helping!

Laika 04-02-2013 10:48 PM

I originally had John refund my deposit back in the original groupbuy when I realized mac's weren't supported. Until I went the bootcamp route...

Do you have any reason not to use bootcamp instead of virtualbox? I've got ecutek running on windows 7 on my macbook pro just fine. 2gb ram and I think 20gb or 40gb of hard drive space allocated for windows. Maybe a bit much when I only use it to tune but I'd rather err on the safe side for that kind of stuff. I haven't noticed any ill effects using OSX since I installed Windows. Then again these days I only use my computer for basic stuff.

AllDayJonRay 04-02-2013 10:55 PM

Who ever the other member that recommended VB was said he went with VB because you didn't have to reboot in order to switch from OSX/Windows.

But if no one can help me with VB, I may go the BC route. What is setup like? Simple/straight-forward?

xjohnx 04-02-2013 11:13 PM

i haven't used virtualbox, but i have used vmware fusion and parallels (in addition to boot camp), all worked without issue.

Draco_PR23 04-03-2013 12:33 AM

I use Paralles with a copy of Win7 and is working without issues. I upgraded to Win7 because when I was running WinXP for some reason I had trouble running ECUTek software.

Bg8780 04-03-2013 12:36 AM

Bootcamp will be the easy route to go in terms of setup. It's Apple, they make everything simple as possible. If you want to go the VM route I would looks into VMware fusion or Parallells. Even if you setup a bootcamp partition and decide later on to use VM's Vmware fusion and Parallells support booting into the bootcamp partition. In other words, install Windows via boot camp and use it for awhile, when you decide to go virtual you can still use the existing bootcamp partition.

Edit: Virtualbox is still great, just very crude. Not many features. That's why it's free.

Visconti 04-03-2013 10:28 AM

Lots of things work so so.

The only correct way to do it is with bootcamp or a windows based pc.

Doing anything else and you'll risk having the flash fail.

John

Tim_Asphalt_FRS 04-03-2013 10:36 AM

Just use BootCamp. It's very easy to install windows. Even if you have a non licensed copy.


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2forme 04-03-2013 10:42 AM

I run a MBPr 13", but I ripped OSuX off and threw Windows 7 on. Works fine for me.

AllDayJonRay 04-03-2013 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 838212)
Lots of things work so so.

The only correct way to do it is with bootcamp or a windows based pc.

Doing anything else and you'll risk having the flash fail.

John

Great. Sounds like I will be going with BC. Now, can any of you direct me to a downloadable copy of Windows 7 that I don't have to pay for??

Tim_Asphalt_FRS 04-03-2013 01:33 PM

Torrentz.eu

Search Windows 7


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2forme 04-03-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 838540)
Great. Sounds like I will be going with BC. Now, can any of you direct me to a downloadable copy of Windows 7 that I don't have to pay for??

You can legally download an install ISO and then illegally use removeWAT to remove the activation stuff once the install is done.

jamesm 04-03-2013 02:03 PM

the advantage to virtualization over bootcamp is that with virtualization to can use an 'expanding' virtual disc, whereas with bootcamp you have to partition the drive to a given size regardless of how much you actually use. also, windows apps will run windowed inside of the host os's window manager, rather than having to reboot into an entirely separate os. the upside is bootcamp is usually a bit faster.

there is no reason why the software shouldn't work on a virtual machine. just be sure to share the usb port (under Devices -> USB Devices on virtualbox).

post_break 04-03-2013 02:06 PM

Flashing your car with a virtual machine can be risky and is very slow when compared to boot camp.

xwd 04-03-2013 02:56 PM

I've flashed mine numerous times using Parallels running Windows XP with no issues. It doesn't take any longer to flash than it does via boot camp or a Windows PC.

WolfsFang 04-03-2013 03:00 PM

Thats why you should always buy windows :)

AllDayJonRay 04-03-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfsFang (Post 838901)
Thats why you should always buy windows :)

You crazy homie...

EcuTek should embrace OSX.

Too. Many. Different. Options... Can't. Compute.:bonk:

AllDayJonRay 04-03-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 838757)
the advantage to virtualization over bootcamp is that with virtualization to can use an 'expanding' virtual disc, whereas with bootcamp you have to partition the drive to a given size regardless of how much you actually use. also, windows apps will run windowed inside of the host os's window manager, rather than having to reboot into an entirely separate os. the upside is bootcamp is usually a bit faster.

there is no reason why the software shouldn't work on a virtual machine. just be sure to share the usb port (under Devices -> USB Devices on virtualbox).

This is useful info, as I have already dl'd VBox. I'm just 100% unfamiliar with running this type of software, and I'm not embarrassed to say that some of the setup details are a little over my head.

AllDayJonRay 04-05-2013 10:32 AM

Got windows 7 up and running using BC. It took multiple tries and a few hours.

It failed to partition my hard drive about 5 times, but google is my friend, and I found out that I had to restart my computer holding the option key, go into disk utility and perform hard drive repair. After this, it partitioned successfully!!

Next problem was installing windows.. It gave me two options to choose from. I think it was 64bit or 80-something bit. Since I'm American and bigger is always better, I chose the latter. It installed properly, went through and made all my configuration selections, then after a restart, windows wouldn't boot...tried running all the auto repair features, nothing was able to get windows to boot.

So I started the windows install part over again, chose 64, installed, configured, restarted, TADA!!! Windows works!

Got my EcuTek kit from @moto-mike yesterday, so I downloaded and installed ecutek software and followed Moto-East's very thorough instructions up to the part where I needed to connect to vehicle, without a single issue.

2forme 04-05-2013 10:38 AM

lol you wanted 64 bit.... x86 only supports up to 4gb of ram.

Laika 04-05-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 838540)
Great. Sounds like I will be going with BC. Now, can any of you direct me to a downloadable copy of Windows 7 that I don't have to pay for??

Did you ever figure this out? If not, I may be able to set it up for you if you're coming to the AC meet on saturday.

AllDayJonRay 04-05-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laika (Post 843645)
Did you ever figure this out? If not, I may be able to set it up for you if you're coming to the AC meet on saturday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 843616)
Got windows 7 up and running using BC. It took multiple tries and a few hours.

It failed to partition my hard drive about 5 times, but google is my friend, and I found out that I had to restart my computer holding the option key, go into disk utility and perform hard drive repair. After this, it partitioned successfully!!

Next problem was installing windows.. It gave me two options to choose from. I think it was 64bit or 80-something bit. Since I'm American and bigger is always better, I chose the latter. It installed properly, went through and made all my configuration selections, then after a restart, windows wouldn't boot...tried running all the auto repair features, nothing was able to get windows to boot.

So I started the windows install part over again, chose 64, installed, configured, restarted, TADA!!! Windows works!

Got my EcuTek kit from @moto-mike yesterday, so I downloaded and installed ecutek software and followed Moto-East's very thorough instructions up to the part where I needed to connect to vehicle, without a single issue.

Yup!! :happy0180:

And unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the meet. Work...:thumbdown:

milanojess 08-02-2017 08:39 PM

is ECUTek on this forum? add me to Mac version list.

I cannot possibly partition an already full disk, buy a copy of windows, and figure out how to use a windoze to run a flash job. Nobody around here in my line of work uses windows except those on the walls that I can physically open or close for air ventilations...

thanks.

x808drifter 08-02-2017 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milanojess (Post 2955963)
is ECUTek on this forum? add me to Mac version list.

I cannot possibly partition an already full disk, buy a copy of windows, and figure out how to use a windoze to run a flash job. Nobody around here in my line of work uses windows except those on the walls that I can physically open or close for air ventilations...

thanks.

Pay someone else to do it.

milanojess 08-12-2017 03:25 AM

Thanks. Not a bad idea. What would be a reasonable price to pay for such service, presumable from experienced shop who can come to the car to flash it? Has anyone done something like this before? Appreciated.


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