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Chaetagnath 04-01-2013 11:31 PM

Has anyone actually installed BRZ limited seats in their FRS?
 
I am just curious, because I have seen people trying to buy/sell BRZ limited seats from time to time, and it is something I am interested in putting in my FRS. Has anyone actually done this, and if so, did they encounter any problems with the seatbelt sensors and such? Since the limited seats have heaters I am wondering if that would mess up the FRS sensors the way aftermarket heaters seem to.

6speed_Sam 04-01-2013 11:56 PM

I would like to do this.. I really do not like the fabric of the frs seats. They attract way too much lint, dirt, etc...

Tanuki 04-02-2013 12:37 AM

I love my FRS Seats. If you are going to upgrade, why not get something nice like a Bride seat?

Cade01 04-02-2013 12:46 AM

I like my seats, just wish they were leather.

OICU812 04-02-2013 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cade01 (Post 835051)
I like my seats, just wish they were leather.


Katskinz is your friend? I have a few friends that have got the leather seat skins, and you can't tell em from stock really. :)

cfusionpm 04-02-2013 02:40 AM

Having owned leather seats and cloth seats, I'll never get leather again. Swampy sweaty butts in the summer, freezing cold to the touch in the winter, not to mention slip sliding around the material because it's not grippy at all. Cloth is comfy and grippy all year-round.

Havsie 04-02-2013 11:46 AM

Only the outside parts are leather on the BRZ Limited seats and where you sit its is alcantara. I've sat in both and the cloth in the FR-S ones is not significantly different feeling. If you want heated seats I'd just install aftermarket heaters and not waste the time and effort with the BRZ seats.

Tanuki 04-02-2013 11:59 AM

Technically none of the seat is real leather in the BRZ. Subaru does not use real leather in their cars. It is all synthetic.

Fortunate Few 04-02-2013 01:01 PM

someone on here bought gt86 seat covers. With Alcantara centers and seat warmers you wont have to worry about most of the normal issues you have with leather seats.

SmsAlSuwaidi 04-02-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cade01 (Post 835051)
I like my seats, just wish they were leather.

after driving a Limtied STI for a while, i hate leather seats and thank god that the Frs seats are cloth !

Cade01 04-02-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 836005)
after driving a Limtied STI for a while, i hate leather seats and thank god that the Frs seats are cloth !

I've mostly had leather and miss it, easier to keep clean when you have a kid and dogs.

Chaetagnath 04-02-2013 05:56 PM

I am already aware of all the aftermarket covers, and the jdm alcantara covers, all look great. The problem is, every thread I have read on installing heaters in the frs, the heaters set off the seatbelt alarm and the airbag warning. So, that is why I was wondering if anyone had actually installed the brz limited seats in an frs, and if that would get around the seatbelt alarm/ airbag warning light issue.

Bristecom 04-02-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cfusionpm (Post 835189)
Having owned leather seats and cloth seats, I'll never get leather again. Swampy sweaty butts in the summer, freezing cold to the touch in the winter, not to mention slip sliding around the material because it's not grippy at all. Cloth is comfy and grippy all year-round.

I agree that they are more slippery when they are all leather but for me at least, I find that cloth seats, although they aren't too hot or cold at first, they tend to get too warm and make me feel uncomfortable after a while like wearing a sweater in summer whereas leather always normalizes after a few minutes. But it also depends on the material/type of cloth. Alcantara and suede type materials are much nicer feeling to me than the typical thick woven cloth seats.

At first, I was really disappointed that the FR-S wasn't going to get the Leather/Alcantara seats but after I sat in them, I realized that I can probably be satisfied with them. They are pretty nice as far as cloth goes and like somebody else mentioned, they are almost like Alcantara. So it's just not worth upgrading unless somebody who bought a BRZ Limited is replacing them with something and is willing to sell them to us for cheap.

And just for giggles, here's my comparison of Leather vs Cloth:

Advantages of leather:
+ More durable
+ Won't stain as easily
+ Easier to clean
+ Feels and looks more luxurious
+ Doesn't generate static electricity

Advantages of cloth:
+ Holds you in place better
+ Doesn't get too hot or cold
+ Feels more plush
+ Cheaper

But obviously in the case of the BRZ Limited, they are a mix between both types of materials which is really nice (like my Lancer Evolution MR's Recaro seats).

cfusionpm 04-02-2013 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 836811)
I agree that they are more slippery when they are all leather but for me at least, I find that cloth seats, although they aren't too hot or cold at first, they tend to get too warm and make me feel uncomfortable after a while like wearing a sweater in summer whereas leather always normalizes after a few minutes. But it also depends on the material/type of cloth. Alcantara and suede type materials are much nicer feeling to me than the typical thick woven cloth seats.

At first, I was really disappointed that the FR-S wasn't going to get the Leather/Alcantara seats but after I sat in them, I realized that I can probably be satisfied with them. They are pretty nice as far as cloth goes and like somebody else mentioned, they are almost like Alcantara. So it's just not worth upgrading unless somebody who bought a BRZ Limited is replacing them with something and is willing to sell them to us for cheap.

And just for giggles, here's my comparison of Leather vs Cloth:

Advantages of leather:
+ More durable
+ Won't stain as easily
+ Easier to clean
+ Feels and looks more luxurious
+ Doesn't generate static electricity

Advantages of cloth:
+ Holds you in place better
+ Doesn't get too hot or cold
+ Feels more plush
+ Cheaper

But obviously in the case of the BRZ Limited, they are a mix between both types of materials which is really nice (like my Lancer Evolution MR's Recaro seats).

I don't know if I'd say cloth is less durable... I had cloth seats in a car for 8 years with very little ware. And this is daily driven 5-6 days a week. On the flip side, I had an older car with leather who was only about 3 years old when I bought it, and after another 3 or 4 years, the leather started to crack and rip.

Totally agree with the static shocks though, and I began a habit years ago of running the back of my hand along the metal of the door as I got out to ground myself. It's a little harder with the FR-S since there's no metal liner on the top of the window, but with the low position of getting out, I can generally put the back of my hand on the metal part where the door latches and avoid getting shocked.

wbradley 04-02-2013 07:47 PM

Real sports cars prioritize function over form. I like the very sporty look of the black and red cloth especially in a black car.

Leather seats usually look lile crap especially on the driver side left seat bolster and lateral support in my experience. I have had quite a few new cars with leather and when I returned the cars off lease the seats always looked crap. On my last Accord the beige leather was all blue in the drivers seat from denim. It would not clean off. Crapola!

The only leather I might trust is the high end stuff. Even then, the vinyl in Bimmers and Benzes probably looks better after a few years of daily driving.

I'd rather own a used car without leather than one that looked like the last several cars drivers seats looked.

At least a removable cover is that...removable.

l0aded 04-02-2013 08:33 PM

I love the cloth seats but they seem impossible to thoroughly clean. Any tips besides vacuuming and using some kind of shampoo spray?

ZDan 04-03-2013 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanuki (Post 835822)
Technically none of the seat is real leather in the BRZ. Subaru does not use real leather in their cars. It is all synthetic.

Source?
I don't believe Subaru can claim to have LEATHER steering wheel wrap and seating surfaces if they are not indeed LEATHER.

Tanuki 04-03-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDan (Post 837983)
Source?
I don't believe Subaru can claim to have LEATHER steering wheel wrap and seating surfaces if they are not indeed LEATHER.

It has to do with their ASPCA partnership. I researched it a year or two ago. They may use small trim pieces or something here and there, but my understanding was that there was no more leather after the ASPCA partnership in 2000/2001 or so?

OICU812 04-03-2013 11:34 AM

Where I live it's dry low humidity lots of the year as I am close to mountains. The mornings and evenings are cool indeed. I will not drive this car in winter, it will sit in a heated garage so for me the leather is very attractive. It is all in a persons comfort, I love leather couches to. :)

IloveBaldEagles 04-03-2013 12:30 PM

Isn't the word to be used here is suede?

dem00n 04-03-2013 12:52 PM

Cloth because racecar.

ZDan 04-03-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanuki (Post 838175)
It has to do with their ASPCA partnership. I researched it a year or two ago. They may use small trim pieces or something here and there, but my understanding was that there was no more leather after the ASPCA partnership in 2000/2001 or so?

I think you can take it to the bank that when they say the steering wheel wrap is leather, it is. Ditto the leather portions of the "seating surfaces" on the leather/alcantara seats.

Tanuki 04-03-2013 01:28 PM

my 2000 2.5rs also had "leather" seats, well they looked and felt like leather till they ripped and I could see they were not. Window sticker showed leather though.

Ericc B 04-03-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfusionpm (Post 837010)
I don't know if I'd say cloth is less durable... I had cloth seats in a car for 8 years with very little ware. And this is daily driven 5-6 days a week. On the flip side, I had an older car with leather who was only about 3 years old when I bought it, and after another 3 or 4 years, the leather started to crack and rip.

Totally agree. Especially the leather used in American cars is such horrible quality that it looks completely awful after only a few years of use. Cloth seats simply stay better looking much longer. And the fact that you don't slide left and right while cornering is the other big plus.

The 'luxury' of leather is just something that we are brainwashed to think. There's nothing luxurious about it, it's just different. And with so much 'leather' being used in cars nowadays actually being synthetic one could even argue that cloth is more luxurious.

Figo 10-11-2016 05:09 PM

So have anyone successfully solve the airbag warranty issue?

Bowen 10-12-2016 12:59 PM

Holy thread revival!

Leonardo 10-12-2016 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figo (Post 2772555)
So have anyone successfully solve the airbag warranty issue?

Pecca leather is airbag compatible. I have a 100% kit installed.

FX86 10-12-2016 02:02 PM

No!


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