Originally Posted by Frsexxxy (Post 826448)

This is what I have done to my car so far, front pipe, mid, pipe second cat delete, dual muffler exhaust. And injen intake. And I would like to know the hp and torque gains in these.

Originally Posted by RandomHero (Post 826619)

This thread makes me sad :(

Is the search button missing in some browsers?

Originally Posted by RandomHero (Post 826619)

This thread makes me sad :(

Is the search button missing in some browsers?

Originally Posted by Craig (Post 827394)

I vote for a screening process for new members, basically rather than their posts showing up they must get approved by a moderator until they have x posts. Maybe enslave a team of us frequent posters *raises hand* to be a screeners. With the summer coming I don't want the nature of this form to be people saying "SEARCH BAR NOOB" and "What X should I buy" "Can I use 87 Octane?" "WTF is a TUNE and how do i get one?"

I'd be willing to screen like I said to try to keep it civil here. We've got one of the better forum communities out there, I'd like to see it stay that way.

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 826863)

As others have already said, all of our EcuTek vendors seem to have different criteria for what determines Stage 1 or Stage 2.

I believe FA20Club says their Stage 1 is for completely stock cars only, and even basic bolt-on cars get Stage 2. E85 tunes must be purchased separately.

If you only want an e85 tune you can get that only. It's not required to get the pumpgas tune then an 85 tune. I've helped local guys with their @FA20Club.com e85 only tune. He sent them the basemap, and tweaked their files within an hour.

Visconti's Stage 1 tune is for all bolt-on only cars, minus E85 users. For E85 tunes, similar to FA20Club, you will have to buy a second map.

The @Visconti tune supports all mods as well, you just need to datalog and send him the files. I don't know his average turnaround now that he's added another staff member.

Moto-East on the other hand seems to have more of a 'tuning is tuning' philosophy, as their kit includes tuning for ANY level (or combination) of NA modification, including E85, if desired..

All of the tuners on this board follow this philosophy. They have built basemaps, and will tweak it for your car based on logs, also modifying tunes as you get new parts.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31010
Best Deal for an EcuTek tune currently available. So far, @moto-mike has been very communicative with me to address my questions and concerns, more than other vendors. That, and the fact that he is within driving distance for me is what made my decision to go with him.

He is the only vendor that has made a detailed video explanation of what your RaceRom features actually are, which is a huge plus. Oh, and he responds to inquiries with more than three word answers, which makes you feel more like he is actually answering your question, and not blowing you off, or hiding "future update secrets".

Flat out untrue. @Visconti had posted several videos of the features as Ecutek released them to the vendors. They are just buried in his thread.

There is less feedback for Moto East on this board (compared to the other vendors), since he hasn't been in the 86 market as long. He does have a good history in servicing the Mazda (MX-5 & Turbo Mazda models) communities, and I have yet to hear anything bad regarding his tunes or service.

I don't know about any of the other EcuTek vendors, as I haven't researched.

I hope this helps clear up your question regarding which "stage" tune you need.

BTW, I learned all this by using the :search: function, and rummaging around for information...

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 827459)

:word: I'm on board with this. Only issue is, with the 86 platform gaining popularity, there are likely to be MANY new members registering each week. To screen each of those new members posts may take some excessive resources. That said, sign me up as well. I'll gladly screen new members threads. It would definitely keep the forum from going in the wrong direction, help keep vital information in ONE thread instead of reposted hundreds of times (which ruins the search functionality), and likely stop many a flame war from happening.

Originally Posted by Hawaiian (Post 827480)

There are some pretty broad and untrue generalizations in that post.

"If you only want an e85 tune you can get that only. It's not required to get the pumpgas tune then an 85 tune. I've helped local guys with their @FA20Club.com e85 only tune. He sent them the basemap, and tweaked their files within an hour."

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 827564)

My statement is not untrue in any sense. If you want a pump gas tune, as well as an E85 tune, you must purchase TWO separate tunes. I never said you couldn't ONLY get an E85 for the cost of one tune. I hadn't thought of that possibility, as I imagine most members are not running solely E85 (considering its limited availability), and would want a 91/93 tune as well..


Is it just me, or is that what I said? Visconti's Stage 1 tune supports all "bolt-on" cars (hence, there is no "Stage 2"), but again, E85 requires purchase of another tune. Opposed to FA20Club, which uses 'separate' (stage 1 or 2) tunes for stock vs bolt-on cars.

I guess it was the way you phrased it made me think something else, much like the Fa20club phrasing. If you get the tune when you are stock, and then add intake etc, they will tweak your tune to the "stage 2" level without any additional fees.

Please take into context exactly what point I was making:
FA20: Stock vs. modified cars are separate tune files (stage 1 vs 2), E85 is also separate.
Visconti: Stage 1 covers stock & bolt-on cars, but E85 requires separate purchase.
Moto-East: One purchase gets you tuned, regardless of the extent of your bolt-ons, and includes E85, should you desire it.

No additional charge for the E85 tune is pretty big imho. That's a 200-300$ saving vs every other vendor. Here in the Midwest it's the E85 capitol of the Us.

I guess my mistake was not mentioning that ALL vendors will collect datalogs for your car and optimize your tune for you.


Absolutely my mistake. Through all my searches, I had not seen those videos posted to the board. That supports my point made here:

Originally Posted by Hawaiian (Post 827629)

We all make mistakes. I misunderstood some of your post as well. Glad you enjoy the tune, and that's the most important thing.