Official MPG Released
 

So the MPG figures for the BRZ are now official...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3859

MT: 22/30/25

AT: 25/34/28

city/hwy/comb

Wow big difference!!

Some magazine said (TAKE THIS WITH A POUND OF SALT) that it got an "Official" 42 UK MPG, which translates to about 35 US MPG.


But they could have been just trolling, for all we know...

I think I may have read something that mentioned roughly 30 mpg combined... I would have figured a review from Japan would have released specs on this that were translatable...

35mpg sounds feasible. My '03 RSX-S gets 31mpg on the highway at around 70 MPH...and it is 10 year old technology or older and weighs at least 100lbs more.

Moto-P in the Greedy Cars and Coffee thread mention the FRS getting 34MPG

Anything over 30 on the highway would be awesome. Over 30 combined mileage would be insane.

I can get about 34 hwy with my '00 celica (with cai and flywheel) so if I can get around that stock with this I'm happy.

It will definitely get 100 times better gas mileage than my 05 RX-8 ever did. So Imma be happy with whatever it gets haha

ROFL.... an H2 Hummer gets comparable gas mileage to an RX-8. I kid!

RX-8 is around 15 to 17 combined. Hummer H2 is 10 to 12. Both are terrible. If the FRS gets anywhere near 35 combined we will all be laughing. A base Civic 1.8 5 speed gets 29 MPG combined.

Please use http://www.fueleconomy.gov/ for all mileage comparisons.

Damn 35 MPG combined on a FR-S? Get out of here!

But if true would be awesome!

Im stoked to hear the actual gas mileage and find out the final price. I'm still quite hopeful it will be a very affordable and fuel efficent car that is still fun to drive. The cons to the FR-S are simple...

Wouldn't drive it in snowy or off road conditions, duh.
Very small, limited seating space when driver is 6'4".
Everyone that drives a 2door is an asshole.

Bonuses
Good mileage
Cheap Car
Fun to Drive
Great choice if your solo
Good choice if your S.O. has a truck/SUV

But is there a choice? I don't see many cars with one door, so we have to accept at least that one useless extra. :burnrubber:

Passengers are too noisy. Always shouting "slow down!" as if they are a built-in speed limiter device which can't be turned off.
And they increase fuel consumption, too. Sometimes it's worth it, though ;)

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Originally Posted by slizoth (Post 111674) The cons to the FR-S are simple

Why wouldn't you drive it in the snow? Are you just one of those "RWD cars can't be driven in the snow people", or is there an actual reason?

I live in Michigan; if I end up getting one of these cars it’s going to be on snow for half the year....

whoa i drive a 2 door truck, i am not an asshole, i just like to tailgate the crap out of slow drivers and high beam them:thumbup:

Haha, in response to Scotty, very low ground clearence would be one reason. It doesnt get much worse in terms of tire setup than RWD (but that doesnt stop it from being fun). Lastly, I live in Oregon and it snows like 2 weeks out of the year and NO ONE knows how to drive in it, I'd like to keep my cars dent free.

Dunkin, lols, sadly I do feel that 2 door vehicles are really inconsiderate for passengers and friends. Forcing them in and out of the back, also having driven a two door with all the seats full, it was pretty unpleasant for all parties involved. Of course, sports cars and other two seaters are the epitome of selfish spending and driving.

That being said, I love a car that responds well, after motorcycling everywhere I really like feeling "agile" on the road.

Rear wheel drive is awesome for snow. I've been driving in it my whole life. I go skiing in my 1990, 2100 pound mazda Miata, I drift half way to the ski hill, wicked fun. "Everyone that drives a motorcycle is an asshole" < Sound familiar?

I'm hoping it can hit close to what's been announced for the Veloster turbo: 27/38 US MPG. The Veloster already has a hatchback (which I crave), if it has way better fuel economy too, it might push me over the edge into another Hyundai.

The Veloster turbo looks like a better deal, but I won't judge until I get an official price for the FR-S/BRZ.

I'm curious why you wouldn't drive it off-road. It has the potential to be a really awesome little rally car too! :) Just needs the right tires for it, maybe a little change to the suspension....

As far as ground clearance goes, the FRS looks to have as good ground clearance as any cheapo car...ever notice how out of proportion the bodykits look? They have to fill in too much space!

Also EU test cycle gives about 20% higher numbers than US or something...so combined is likely under 30. But what does 35mpg combined EU mean? It means steady cruise on the highway will be >40mpg hehe. EU test cycle reports lower numbers probably because people in Europe drive slightly more intelligently and waste less fuel or something :bellyroll: jk I wouldn't know.

You can buy a minivan or an actual bus if you want to drive around passengers? I rarely drive people around so your complain is irrelevant to my case.

get friends who drive SUVS/4 door cars problem solved.;)

or do what some of my friends do who drive 4 door cars, they know we are going to the bar/out, so they drink a few beers/shots = cant drive:bellyroll:( all seniors in college)

call me selfish but im buying this car for myself, with no care for any future passengers. Been driving a truck for five years, want a smaller faster spots car FOR MYSELF. I'll probably never sit in the back seat unless drunk and cannot think logically:happy0180:

i orginally wanted a tsx, but too pricey for used, and plan on driving the fr-s for another 10+ years at least.

But it is butt-ugly...so it doesn't count.

That's good man, I wish I could be as decisive as you about it I am very back and fourth. I love the car I just keep questioning if it's the car I've always wanted or if it's the car I will continue to enjoy for years to come. Realistically, it probably will take me 3-5 years to finish paying for it, will I still want it when Im done?

haven't seen a car that is as aestheically pleasing imo at this price range.
dont want a civic/corolla/ gensis' back looks like a dam tiburon, everyone has a g35...ect


my plan is to drive this car for at least the next 10 years.(been driving a tacoma for the past 5 years). By then i should have a wife or something and if i need a diff car ill just use her and my $$$ combined for some small suv lol

idk how old/your economic situation, but this is the car i want right now, originally wanted a tsx used, but too expensive and old

anyways back on topic, this car will for sure beat the MPG my tacoma gives me,

2X city/3x freeway will be great :D

30 mpg combined would be great. Something along the lines of 26 city/ 34 hwy hopefully...

But anything over 30 hwy would make me happy :lol:

When trying to predict the future, I always like looking at the past. I look at 86 competitors and where they are at now, I came accross this craigslist.

http://corvallis.craigslist.org/cto/2791889837.html

Car Background: http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/tiburon/

So if I buy the 86 brand new, I drive it daily for six years, and go to sell it and get about what 40% of my money back? 30%? I'm guessing if I put all those features on an 86 it would be closer to 30%. Obviously you get some attention for having a unique new car as well which is always nice.

When I crunch my own economy numbers it seems like roughly the equivalent to spend 5-10% of my income over the next six years on a well running fun car that I WANT to drive. Honestly, that sounds like a pretty good idea.

This is what my fiance and I are doing; I'm buying the FR-S/BRZ because I want a small sporting coupe and we're getting her a Yaris for when we do things that involve more than 2 people.

If people are in the backseat of my FR-S I won't really care about how comfortable they are because I didn't buy the car to transport people - I bought it to have fun.

tell your friends to get cars... simple and easy...

anyone else noticed when you google search BRZ MPG you get a link to the official Subaru BRZ website. Under the link description the first line reads "27 MPG city ..."

When you go into the site that information is nowhere to be found... Unless you do a manual search (CTRL F pr CMD F for macs). In chrome, I searched for 27 mpg and found 1 result thats hidden in the page somewhere that I could not find.

Anyone else notice this? :iono:

That's for the Impreza 2.5i. See source code:

<div class="v_cols v_col_one"> <h3>Impreza</h3> <p>Plenty of smart and fun options that will make you fall in love with your car.</p> <div id="img_IMP" class="v_image"></div> <p class="image_subtext">Impreza 2.5i shown</p> </div><!-- .v_col_one --> <div class="v_cols v_col_two"> <div class="v_mpg"> <div class="mpg_one"> <span class="sub_text">Up to</span> <span class="mpg_hwy">36</span> </div><!-- .mpg_one --> <div class="mpg_two"> <span>MPG^ highway</span> <p><span class="mpg_city">27</span> MPG city</p> </div><!-- .mpg_two --> <div class="clear"></div> </div><!-- .mpg -->

ahh thanks keiri, I also see now its pulling from the nav as well. bubble. burst.

I assume mpg specs will be released when the pricing is announced?

Well if you check one of the million other mpg threads, it seems like this will probably be like somewhere around 30 EPA combined, and I calculated something like a 40-45mpg cruise based on gearing and aero.

Wonder if the gearing will be different on the auto vs the manual? The reviews stated that Subaru expected around 30 mpg highway. I hope it is more like 30 mpg combined.

Toyota has always underrated their mpg. Look at their yaris, they rate it at 38 mpg but on their forums people get 40-50mpg.

So the new FB20 engine in the 2012 Impreza is 2 liters and gets 27 city/36 hwy mpg with CVT and 25 city/33 hwy for the 5MT. But it outputs 150 hp on the 2,900 pound Impreza.

The FR-S/BRZ's FA20 is based on the FB20. Also 2 liters but difference is it's been tuned to 200 hp. The D-4S direct injection is supposed to increase hp and fuel efficiency but I think the engine has to run richer (consume more gas) to achieve the huge +50 hp bump and tuning is skewed more towards power than efficiency. The FR-S/BRZ is 200 lbs. so that helps.

200 lbs. lighter but +50 hp? I think it would have the same or worse efficiency numbers than the 2012 Impreza. Also, CVT makes a difference which our car won't have. And Impreza's 5MT is geared for fuel efficiency; our 6MT should be geared for some mix of performance/fuel efficiency.

I wouldn't be surprised if the auto was geared for better fuel economy. I know the manual BRZ's have a sound pipe from the engine to the cabin in order to increase the engine's snarl inside the cabin at high rpm's. So they have already shown that they are trying to make the manual a bit more "sporty".

Hmm I don't know know anything about the Yaris, but the other models are overated where I live. I live in Los Angeles though. And unless I drive like a total jerk, I won't get those mpgs on any corolla, IS, cammary, prius, sienna, 4runner, etc.

But they are getting better. So I'm glad... Toyota is still the best in mpg though...

I only get around 16mpg on my fj. I think the sticker said around 19.