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bggns 03-20-2013 07:36 PM

TSB for fuel pump from Scion Canada
 
Finally!!!

shu5892001 03-20-2013 11:22 PM

Where is the TSB? You got ur car fixed??

bggns 03-21-2013 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shu5892001 (Post 807274)
Where is the TSB? You got ur car fixed??

I got a call from the dealer and said there is a tsb now and should be able to get pump next day.

g0lden 03-21-2013 12:49 AM

hmmmm.... i'm going to need to make a call to the dealer tomorrow

shu5892001 03-21-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bggns (Post 807483)
I got a call from the dealer and said there is a tsb now and should be able to get pump next day.

Did you complain to them or do they just call everyone automatically?

QuikSilveRX-8 03-21-2013 01:20 AM

If there is a TSB, you should generate a .pdf and link it here...

bggns 03-21-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by shu5892001 (Post 807510)
Did you complain to them or do they just call everyone automatically?

When the fuel pump tsb for the states came out I mentioned it to my dealer and that my car is also making that cricket sound. They have been keeping an eye out for the canadian tsb.

StOpNG0x 03-21-2013 02:19 AM

TSB or no TSB theirs no point to get it done because it's not going to work. The chirps keep coming back if you've read the other 60+ pages in the other thread of people having their pumps switched out and still having the same issue.

Just trying to save ya some time, but do as you please.

Good Luck.

roddy 03-21-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bggns (Post 807592)
When the fuel pump tsb for the states came out I mentioned it to my dealer and that my car is also making that cricket sound. They have been keeping an eye out for the canadian tsb.

Wow! Kudos to your dealer...most wouldn't be bothered.

Grishbok 03-21-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by StOpNG0x (Post 807660)
TSB or no TSB theirs no point to get it done because it's not going to work. The chirps keep coming back if you've read the other 60+ pages in the other thread of people having their pumps switched out and still having the same issue.

Just trying to save ya some time, but do as you please.

Good Luck.


Why wouldnt you take it in? id rather have a fuel pump for free with 0 miles on it, than one thats got 15k miles of abuse. Not saying anythings wrong with the 15k mile one, but hey, brand new for free works for me.

naking 03-21-2013 08:47 AM

Took my car in on Monday for the issue, and got a phone call yesterday saying Toyota Canada released a fix. They didn't tell me exactly what the fix was (they just left a message) but when I phone back today, I will definitely get more details.

shu5892001 03-21-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bggns (Post 807592)
When the fuel pump tsb for the states came out I mentioned it to my dealer and that my car is also making that cricket sound. They have been keeping an eye out for the canadian tsb.

Which dealer may I ask?

chenshuo 03-21-2013 11:09 AM

If i don't have the chirp can i still get a new pump?

bggns 03-21-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shu5892001 (Post 807949)
Which dealer may I ask?

Scheduled replacement tomorrow @ Toyota on Front.

bggns 03-21-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 808096)
If i don't have the chirp can i still get a new pump?

I don't know about that.

shu5892001 03-21-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bggns (Post 808874)
Scheduled replacement tomorrow @ Toyota on Front.

keep us posted

MikesFRS 03-22-2013 12:42 AM

After its done. Let me know if the power of your car feels the same.

Juurian 03-22-2013 01:02 AM

normally its an inspection first so if theres no signs of the fuel pump failing or noise coming from the fuel pump, a dealership will not bother replacing it. TSBs normally come with a set of instructions on how to correctly inspect for a faulty pump.

you have to remember that just because a recall/tsb/campaign is put up. Doesn't mean every car between vins are all effected by the "insert frs problem here".

StOpNG0x 03-22-2013 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Grishbok (Post 807920)
Why wouldnt you take it in? id rather have a fuel pump for free with 0 miles on it, than one thats got 15k miles of abuse. Not saying anythings wrong with the 15k mile one, but hey, brand new for free works for me.

Why wouldn't you? Because getting a new pump doesn't resolve the issue. It's not a question of getting a new one because you think you've "abused" your fuel pump which isn't really possible (you're abusing your transmission if anything). It's that getting a new one does nothing but waste your time, give you no resolution and having some random tech rip apart your pump and prey to god he followed the instructions right putting it back together properly. Apparently you didn't see what happen to another members 86 that caught fire and burnt the car to a crisp because the tech didnt install the pump correctly.

Do as you please though. Just trying to save someone a headache.

Grishbok 03-22-2013 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by StOpNG0x (Post 810271)
Why wouldn't you? Because getting a new pump doesn't resolve the issue. It's not a question of getting a new one because you think you've "abused" your fuel pump which isn't really possible (you're abusing your transmission if anything). It's that getting a new one does nothing but waste your time, give you no resolution and having some random tech rip apart your pump and prey to god he followed the instructions right putting it back together properly. Apparently you didn't see what happen to another members 86 that caught fire and burnt the car to a crisp because the tech didnt install the pump correctly.

Do as you please though. Just trying to save someone a headache.


yeah im not sure how you would abuse a fuel pump either. Im just saying, i prefer new parts over used ones. Especially when theyre free new parts. If the car burnt to a crisp thats awesome, id pick up another brand new one with no miles on it without spending a dime.

bggns 03-22-2013 04:23 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Here is the Toyota Canada TSB for the fuel pump

turbo_jimbo 03-22-2013 11:09 PM

Not an updated part number, just another part.

shu5892001 03-27-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bggns (Post 806786)
Finally!!!

Updates? Did it fix the problem?

FR-S Matt 03-27-2013 08:15 PM

Your crickets will return. Same part number. Waste of time.

bggns 03-27-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shu5892001 (Post 823035)
Updates? Did it fix the problem?

So far no crickets with ultra 94. I will update if anything changes.

bggns 03-27-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikesFRS (Post 810140)
After its done. Let me know if the power of your car feels the same.

As far as I can tell, the car are feels the same.

shu5892001 04-01-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bggns (Post 823348)
So far no crickets with ultra 94. I will update if anything changes.

Thanks, update us if you get crickets again

Pedalincircles 04-01-2013 08:10 PM

Had my fuel pump replaced three weeks ago. No crickets yet after 700-800 miles.

Fontz_86 04-02-2013 04:02 AM

I brought my car in for that tsb. It was gone for a month after that it came back. But now It's intermittent.

dsgerbc 04-02-2013 05:04 PM

If I was in Canada I'd just fill-up with 91 shell. So far I only heard one report of crickets on that gas, so I tend to think that it was a fluke and Shell power 91 is cricket-free.

Silver86 04-02-2013 07:44 PM

I'm sorry to shit on your "omfg fuel pump TSB" party but this WILL NOT fix the issue. :(

The issue is with the valve in the pump not liking ethanol.

The only fix (for now) is to run E0 (pure gas) in your car.

fistpoint 04-03-2013 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Grishbok (Post 810380)
yeah im not sure how you would abuse a fuel pump either. Im just saying, i prefer new parts over used ones. Especially when theyre free new parts. If the car burnt to a crisp thats awesome, id pick up another brand new one with no miles on it without spending a dime.

There are also reports of dealerships refusing to do a second replacement while others did. Should you happen to have this obstacle at your local dealer you will have used up your only replacement opportunity.

Secondly, if you wait until closer to your original warranty expiration to have your first replacement, and should that not be an updated model # and still produce crickets, then you should be able to report and document that it did not fix once again.

Then, in the future when they do finally release a properly working pump and your warranty is past expiration, they should retroactively repair it because you documented it being still chirping before your warranty expired.

Of course I would make absolutely certain, probably even get it in writing about the possibility of a future repair being retroactive because it didn't work twice. Plan ahead.

shu5892001 04-03-2013 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 836481)
If I was in Canada I'd just fill-up with 91 shell. So far I only heard one report of crickets on that gas, so I tend to think that it was a fluke and Shell power 91 is cricket-free.

My car only drinks 91 V power and i get random crickets

Gen 04-03-2013 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver86 (Post 836885)
I'm sorry to shit on your "omfg fuel pump TSB" party but this WILL NOT fix the issue. :(

The issue is with the valve in the pump not liking ethanol.

The only fix (for now) is to run E0 (pure gas) in your car.

My experience as well. Pump replacement definitely did not change anything.

naking 04-03-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 836481)
If I was in Canada I'd just fill-up with 91 shell. So far I only heard one report of crickets on that gas, so I tend to think that it was a fluke and Shell power 91 is cricket-free.

I ALWAYS fill up with 91 Shell, yet I always had crickets! I got the replacement part installed a few weeks ago when it was first released....no crickets yet (1000km)! I'm not expecting this problem to be fixed for good (considering everyone else has the problem come back) but I'm hoping!

dsgerbc 04-05-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by naking (Post 839568)
I ALWAYS fill up with 91 Shell, yet I always had crickets! I got the replacement part installed a few weeks ago when it was first released....no crickets yet (1000km)! I'm not expecting this problem to be fixed for good (considering everyone else has the problem come back) but I'm hoping!

Sigh. Along with the post above, it makes it three reports of Canadian crickets purely on ethanol-free gas. I suppose I can make another trip to Windsor to check if Canadian 91 Shell still quiets my crickets..

df.dima 04-05-2013 04:56 PM

I never had crickets on Shell V 91. Haven't tested with other ethanol blend gas.

shu5892001 04-10-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bggns (Post 806786)
Finally!!!


How long did the install took? Do they have to keep the car for more than a day? I am looking to get this fixed.

Did your cricket return?

Thanks

naking 04-10-2013 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shu5892001 (Post 856099)
How long did the install took? Do they have to keep the car for more than a day? I am looking to get this fixed.

Did your cricket return?

Thanks

Mine took roughly 5 hours to install. So basically a day. I've done 1000-1500Km since then and it's still quiet....like the first day I got it! And let's just say I haven't been gentle with her ;) So far so good!

shu5892001 04-10-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by naking (Post 856593)
Mine took roughly 5 hours to install. So basically a day. I've done 1000-1500Km since then and it's still quiet....like the first day I got it! And let's just say I haven't been gentle with her ;) So far so good!

Do you know if the TSB involves taking off the bumper?


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