Project Mu HC+800 Pads
 

Are any of you ladies and gentlemen using hybrid pads, specifically Project Mu's HC+800? As with most pads, I know to expect an increase in dust, noise and rotor wear; however, about how much more noticeable was it under your particular driving conditions? I'm particularly concerned with noise.

Much thanks in advance!

Bed them properly, and it should be minimal. Call me if you want to see how Club Racers sound under street use; they're on the car I'm driving right now.

I subject car mods to what I call "the girl test". If a lady in the passenger seat won't complain, then it's gonna be socially acceptable :)

That's the test I need the pads to pass as well. :(

I work in south Irvine. HMU.

I purchased a set of HC+800 pads from Speed Freaks and received them this past weekend. I will be installing them, and doing a full review during my 3/30 track event at Laguna Seca. To my knowledge, Speed Freaks owns most of the stock currently in the US.

@spitz: Thank you! I can't wait to hear what you have to say - good or bad! Is your BRZ your daily driver?

Are these like carbotechs that require a new set or rotors or resurfacing to properly bed and get the most out of them? I'm very interested in them.

You should resurface before putting any new pads on to ensure proper bedding. :)

Nathan

but is it *required*??? I'm pretty lazy. Taking the rotors off and then bringing them somewhere and paying to have them resurfaced after only a couple thousand miles on StopTech Street Performance pads seems kinda overkill. My rotors still look new, hardly any wear.

I know lots of track guys here don't resurface before every pad swap. The guys here running AP C300's on the Essex Sprint BBK at the track always swap back to street pads after an event without resurfacing.

@ATL BRZ: Good point, I didn't think about resurfacing yet either because of how new the vehicle is.

Ideal? Yes. Required? Hardly. We mix pads all the time. Just expect the brakes to be a a little funky the first session or few stops on the streets.

Yes sir! It is a daily driven car. The front rotors will be replaced with vented DBAs, but the rears I am keeping stock for now (DBAs aren't available last I checked).

@spitz: I hope you had a great weekend at Laguna Seca. How'd it go? Are you happy with the HC+800 pads?

Thinking about these as well eager to hear

While we wait on @spitz 's review from his track day, anyone who wants to support a forum vendor and get a slick deal on these check out @eauto 's thread for them here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31049 Best prices I've seen so far.

I ordered a set already because I'm pretty confident they will suit my needs well.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...912#post833912

Here you go all :)

Project Mu make pretty good pads. I used 2 sets HC+ on a little 1000kg hatchback, they worked great from cold on the street no noise what so ever after proper bedding. Once warmed up were great on the track. But Be careful on the drive home, for me anyway I think the pads would glaze up a little and the peddle would get quite long. Gave a scare the first set of lights a came to when I first used them.
I wouldn't bother refacing discs unless they where badly grooved.
Ive also used the next pad up in the range, the Club Racer. They are even better on the track. But on the road could get very noisy. I wasn't fussed with the noise but could see a lot of people being annoyed with it.

Properly bedded pads do not make very much noise. :)

Oh yeah when they're up to temp they would just do there job without any noise. But at cold/street temps the Club Racer pads would squeal. HC+ I had were fine.
I honestly don't recall how well I bedded them, may not have been done properly in hindsight.

When the transfer layer rubs off, the noise comes back. That's just the perks of having track pads, however, you can easily bed them in again after a nice spirited session. Did I also mention that track pads have amazing bite even when they aren't in their proper operating temperature range? :happy0180:

It sounds like you're getting pretty close, but not actually getting them hot enough to get a proper transfer layer. If the noise is going away, but eventually coming back, then you're pretty damn close. Get them hotter (sacrifice a cooldown lap; just keep speeding up and braking, even on straights) and then keep rolling while staying off the brakes until they're cool to the touch. The noise should be permanently gone.

Source: I've been daily driving on race pads for years.

Disclaimer: some pads will never go silent (older compounds, enduro compounds).

I remember they would quieten back down after some heavier driving.

Yeah, friction is better when cold by comparison. But from what if noticed, there is a wider gap in friction from cold to operating temp than there is with purely street/economy pads. Which might make them feel like they're not working as well when cold to some people I guess.

Installed a full set of HC+800's this weekend. They are awesome on the street since they are quiet and bedded in easily after a few threshold stops. They bite much harder than the StopTech Street Performance pads I was previously running and they feel much more progressive in their performance when heated. The higher MOT and friction coefficient can definitely be felt with spirited street driving. Can't wait to track them at the end of the month.