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Walldodger 03-17-2013 02:20 AM

TRD airbox from the Long Beach celeb race cars
 
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Saw this in another post here at the bottom.
It looks huge compared to the stock air box. Iv'e not been able to find any other info in my searches, does anyone know if it is going into production? Or know anything else about it at all?

Thanks

Links to larger pics
the first pic and the second

philstar 03-17-2013 06:41 AM

It is in production and you can order it through your dealership since it is a TRD USA part.

Part# PTR03-18130

DriftEightSix 03-17-2013 06:43 AM

larger pictures required please!


wonder how this compares to other after market air boxes.

Walldodger 03-17-2013 07:32 AM

Added links above.

Walldodger 03-17-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by philstar (Post 798628)
It is in production and you can order it through your dealership since it is a TRD USA part.

Part# PTR03-18130

Ok that was easy, I swear I looked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix (Post 798630)
wonder how this compares to other after market air boxes.

Thats what Im curious about too.

Nardi330 03-17-2013 08:03 AM

How much is it???

BAS 03-17-2013 10:13 AM

I am not sure if it is in production yet. Or that you can actually just have your dealership order it. I have some pretty darn good connections here at my local Toyota/Scion dealership and they have barely heard of it...maybe those connections aren't so good after all.

philstar 03-17-2013 11:58 AM

The part number and installation instructions with all the information is up on the Toyota Technical Information System for all the technicians so if it isn't available yet, it will be available soon.

I probably should have said that instead of assuming it is readily available now, thats my fault.

CircuitJerk 03-17-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philstar (Post 798878)
The part number and installation instructions with all the information is up on the Toyota Technical Information System for all the technicians so if it isn't available yet, it will be available soon.

I probably should have said that instead of assuming it is readily available now, thats my fault.

What you said originally is likely true anyway, so no worries :thumbsup:

Touge Monster 03-17-2013 12:07 PM

Yeah I haven't heard about it being released yet I'm pretty sure it's coming out this summer.

mad_sb 03-17-2013 03:13 PM

Very Nice! should reduce any pressure drop caused by the OE airbox and elbow.

_hollywood 03-17-2013 03:30 PM

This reminds me of the realtime racing ITRs using an NSX airbox....maybe this is from another toyota model?

naynaybm 03-17-2013 03:42 PM

I don't understand why this is a desired item. It looks like it's just a short ram. I understand it's larger but the filter box still sits in the engine bay. So the air flow will still be warm but now there's more of it?

zooki 03-17-2013 03:55 PM

From the looks if the pictures the airbox is sealed, and draws air from the high pressure area in front of the radiator support, just like the stock box does.

Darryljr11 03-17-2013 05:41 PM

I like em big

Walldodger 03-18-2013 12:29 AM

I dont think it's a short ram type, looks like it still uses the snorkel from the normal airbox. It may be uprated possibly too.

acro 03-18-2013 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 798657)
How much is it???


thats what i want to know

matchamochi 03-18-2013 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naynaybm (Post 799151)
I don't understand why this is a desired item. It looks like it's just a short ram. I understand it's larger but the filter box still sits in the engine bay. So the air flow will still be warm but now there's more of it?

Looks like it just increases the amount of airflow being pulled in. Might just be aesthetics being a TRD item. Not sure if t

Short ram feeds from inside engine bay. This is fed air from where the stock air filter pulls in air through the front.

solidONE 03-18-2013 03:35 AM

I'm pretty sure the increased airbox volume and possibly tuned snorkel effects performance in a very positive way.

for reference:http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Airboxes.html

I know it's motorcycle specific, but at the end of the day gas fueled 4 stroke internal combustion engines are not going to act very differently.

Hawk77FT 03-18-2013 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Darryljr11 (Post 799314)
I like em big

That's what she said!

jm1681 03-18-2013 07:29 AM

That's the first intake I've REALLY liked for these cars. Probably makes a frickin' racket and a half ^_^

FR-S Matt 03-18-2013 08:18 AM

This is the first intake I think looks the absolute worst and is an oversized stock intake with TRD letters written on it...


RIP OFF price inc.

swift996 03-18-2013 08:56 AM

Interesting they stuck with an accordion style inlet. Does anyone know the airflow benefits of that design? I'd assume it might be better for low end but it seems like it would create some unnecessary turbulence at higher revs.

zooki 03-18-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidONE (Post 800140)
I'm pretty sure the increased airbox volume and possibly tuned snorkel effects performance in a very positive way.

for reference:http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Airboxes.html

I know it's motorcycle specific, but at the end of the day gas fueled 4 stroke internal combustion engines are not going to act very differently.

Interesting reading. Kinda makes you wonder about these intake systems that stick a filter on the end of a long piece of pipe out in front of the radiator....oh well, "butt dynos" are never wrong, are they? LOL

raphy 03-18-2013 03:19 PM

hey i just walked over to my parts department and had the part number checked here in canada and it says the part is "obsolete" which means it is either non-existent, one time only part or that it is still in the development phase.

SkAsphalt 03-18-2013 04:31 PM

watch as it comes standard on the 2014 models

whitejdm 03-18-2013 05:27 PM

Interesting to see the placement of the MAF sensor.

Hanakuso 03-18-2013 05:53 PM

Would love more info on this.

wootwoot 03-18-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 800330)
Interesting they stuck with an accordion style inlet. Does anyone know the airflow benefits of that design? I'd assume it might be better for low end but it seems like it would create some unnecessary turbulence at higher revs.

It doesn't have anything to do with flow. The engine moves when under load. The accordion tube allows the engine to move and not rip the airbox off of the car as it would if the tube was solid. It may seem like a determent, but it's not. I was at a Ferrari rally last year.... and EVERY car had an accordion tube going into the throttle body. If they do, I feel fine that my Scion does it.

I really like this intake. If it becomes available, I may jump on it. In all honesty, the car should have come with this airbox from the factory. Oh well.

Black Tire 03-18-2013 06:44 PM

I really like this intake as well. It looks like a stock truck/SUV air box from Toyota - much larger than the stock FR-S one. It looks like it will take a larger panel filter for more airflow. Also, it should be able to run a very good dry filter and still have a great excess of air for the engine. If it becomes available, I will have to sell my Perrin inlet tube because this looks better.

RAN94A 03-19-2013 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 800281)
This is the first intake I think looks the absolute worst and is an oversized stock intake with TRD letters written on it...


RIP OFF price inc.


Except that plenty of reputable tuners who arent pushing any one particular intake to get money out of you are saying the stock intake is actually the best with a high flow filter.

So a bigger stock intake allows more air volume in thereby more power.

For the most part TRD parts for this car have been quite reasonable. :thanks:

OrbitalEllipses 03-19-2013 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAN94A (Post 804394)
For the most part TRD parts for this car have been quite reasonable. :thanks:

*cough* TRD Japan Brembo BBK *cough*

Nardi330 03-19-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 804424)
*cough* TRD Japan Brembo BBK *cough*

the key to that statement was most ;)

SkullWorks 03-19-2013 08:27 PM

the increase in filter area is the key that everyone except BlackTire seemed to miss.

the air has the same (essential) path just less resistance because the bottle neck is now less restrictive...

Like a widemouth can instead of a normal can

or a snapple bottle vs a coke bottle

Turdinator 03-19-2013 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAN94A (Post 804394)
Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 800281)
This is the first intake I think looks the absolute worst and is an oversized stock intake with TRD letters written on it...


RIP OFF price inc.

Except that plenty of reputable tuners who arent pushing any one particular intake to get money out of you are saying the stock intake is actually the best with a high flow filter.

So a bigger stock intake allows more air volume in thereby more power.

For the most part TRD parts for this car have been quite reasonable. :thanks:

Beat me to it. Larger filter for less restriction. Larger air volume for better throttle response. Still pulls air from the stock location so some of the aftermarket snorkels can still be used. Looks like a winner to me. :party0030:

FR-S Matt 03-19-2013 08:52 PM

I'll put my Perrin against this hunk of junk any day. My filter sits in the direct source of where the air comes in. The TRD box pulls from the same spot the Takeda\Greddy intakes do and they just increased the size of the box 3X. Just look at the TRD exhaust. Kept the same tiny mid pipe size and put a similar muffler to stock and some new tips for $1100. SICK PERFORMANCE.

I'm not saying all TRD components are bad, but a large majority are a waste of money, highly overpriced, and don't truly perform. How come there's never any performance numbers with these TRD parts? Just because it says Toyota Racing Development means it works?

For every unreasonable price on a part, there's a competitor with something equal or better for a lot less in price. For those that don't care about money, spend away.

RAN94A 03-19-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 804526)
I'll put my Perrin against this hunk of junk any day. My filter sits in the direct source of where the air comes in. The TRD box pulls from the same spot the Takeda\Greddy intakes do and they just increased the size of the box 3X. Just look at the TRD exhaust. Kept the same tiny mid pipe size and put a similar muffler to stock and some new tips for $1100. SICK PERFORMANCE.


Hectic bro, race me :burnrubber:

wootwoot 03-19-2013 09:30 PM

lol....right....

I don't understand why everyone thinks those filters on a stick are any good... No air straighteners... over-sized piping... poor filtration... and "gains" that are not even outside of standard deviation. $20 of material sold for $300. Sweet.

And for the record all of these "cold air" intakes get air from the same place as the OEM system. That is what the snorkel is for. The only difference is where the location of the filter.

TRD for the win. Unless it is stupid expensive.

FR-S Matt 03-19-2013 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot (Post 804595)
lol....right....

I don't understand why everyone thinks those filters on a stick are any good... No air straighteners... over-sized piping... poor filtration... and "gains" that are not even outside of standard deviation. $20 of material sold for $300. Sweet.

And for the record all of these "cold air" intakes get air from the same place as the OEM system. That is what the snorkel is for. The only difference is where the location of the filter.

TRD for the win. Unless it is stupid expensive.

TRD = Total Ripoff Department. You're crazy if you think this will be cheap.

Walldodger 03-19-2013 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 804684)
TRD = Total Ripoff Department. You're crazy if you think this will be cheap.

I have no doubt it will be far from cheap. Just hope it's not a stupid price.
It may well be a good airbox for all anyone knows so far. Hope there's some data released when the thing is available. Data will make it easier to justify.


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