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Grishbok 03-14-2013 12:21 AM

Gas tank lid cover not releasing
 
Anyone else have this issue?

My gas tank release lever doesnt release the gas tank lid without pulling it a few times. Im concerned about being stuck with it breaking permanately and the lid being perma-closed.

I would take it to the dealer, but my experience in the past has been that dealerships can never get this particular part to function correctly.... ever. And there have been many chances given to many dealerships while the cars are under warranty.

Could anyone familiar with this part provide some guidance toward inspecting it/tightening something if its loose etc? It would be much appreciated.

fistpoint 03-14-2013 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Grishbok (Post 792276)
I would take it to the dealer, but my experience in the past has been that dealerships can never get this particular part to function correctly.... ever.

Sounds like you've had the same issue with multiple other vehicles. What are the odds of that happening? If true, then I would consider looking at where I park my vehicles. Maybe that clear tree sap we get in spring from some trees is gumming up the edges around your fuel doors?

Multiple cars and multiple stuck and un-fixable fuel doors? Do I hoist the flag?

Grishbok 03-14-2013 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fistpoint (Post 792295)
Sounds like you've had the same issue with multiple other vehicles. What are the odds of that happening? If true, then I would consider looking at where I park my vehicles. Maybe that clear tree sap we get in spring from some trees is gumming up the edges around your fuel doors?

Multiple cars and multiple stuck and un-fixable fuel doors? Do I hoist the flag?

The first car was the result of a side swiping. That car required a new rear quarter panel, they botched it, and had problems ever since with the tank lid.

Second car was a recall, they attempted to replace the lid and latch assembly but ended up having more problems with it not more than a day later. They never could fix that one.

So yeah, theres no common factor in why it stopped working so lets abandon that avenue, and focus on the assembly and where it could be going wrong on the fr-s. There is no sap, or anything sticky or blatantly obvious like that, i think its gotta be something in the mechanism. It will open on the 3rd or 4th pull of the lever. Hoping someone with some actual experience solving this kind of problem can chime in.

abutterman 03-14-2013 01:20 AM

mine does that once in a while. actually just happened earlier today. i pulled all the way up on the lever and it didn't open. second try it opened just fine. This happened all the time on my 2011 tc as well. i just kinda got used to it after a while

Grishbok 03-14-2013 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by abutterman (Post 792383)
mine does that once in a while. actually just happened earlier today. i pulled all the way up on the lever and it didn't open. second try it opened just fine. This happened all the time on my 2011 tc as well. i just kinda got used to it after a while

Yeah, on the race cars we have no lid to worry about, and this was one of my fears for this car, i prefer having a manual tank lid you can flip open with a finger, no levers, no latches, nothing to go wrong. Ill throw it to the dealer next week if we as a community cant figure it out.

OrbitalEllipses 03-14-2013 01:26 AM

Mine started doing this recently. Pulled the tab, stepped out and got ready to pump...then turned around to go back to the cockpit and pull the tab AGAIN because it didn't open the first time.

abutterman 03-14-2013 01:35 AM

what's weird is the first time i pulled the lever when it didn't open, it felt as if it did. Maybe the latch needs to be greased up or something.

White64Goat 03-14-2013 11:48 AM

I'd try a little white lube on the latch and catch first.

Mr.Corvus 03-14-2013 11:53 AM

Hm, I'll keep an eye out for this and let you know. I haven't noticed anything wrong because I usually pull the release tab multiple times out of habit, like I'm expecting it not to work on the first time.

abutterman 03-14-2013 12:17 PM

i have some white lithium grease at home. i'm gonna spray some on the latch later tonight. That stuff does wonders.

jimbobrand 03-14-2013 04:12 PM

I had a similar issue on a CPO 2010 Legacy I had and it seems to be an issue on the GR Imprezas, too. The spring is either loose or weaker than it should be. You should be able to remove the spring from the lid and make an adjustment with a pair of pliers to give it a little better contact with the body of the car.

Grishbok 03-16-2013 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by abutterman (Post 793076)
i have some white lithium grease at home. i'm gonna spray some on the latch later tonight. That stuff does wonders.

did this work for you by anychance?

abutterman 03-16-2013 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Grishbok (Post 796963)
did this work for you by anychance?

hasn't gotten stuck yet but then again mine usually doesn't. i've only had it happen a couple times so far. Worth giving a try though... it's only $4 for a spray can of it at home depot and you can use it on any metal parts. I've been spraying it around some spots in the trunk to try to pinpoint my slight clicking noise that i have back there and tried it in the dead pedal as well which worked temporarily (would've been better if the damn clips would stay secure and not rub the grease off so quick). Definitely worth having around for all sorts of sticking/metallic noise issues for that price

Porsche 03-16-2013 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Grishbok (Post 792276)
Anyone else have this issue?

I haven't examined my BRZ for this, but in the past I've been able to bend the "catch" that latches it closed, and make it easier to release, yet still be secure when closed.

Check to see if that's possible.

Secondly, even when the latch functions perfectly, on occasion here in the snow belt, the lid can be frozen closed.

We now carry a rubber kitchen spatula in the trunk to safely pry the gas lid open so we can fill the tank when we're out of fuel. It's a good security measure and it protects the paint. 'Cuz if the lid is frozen shut, and you cannot refuel ... you've got a cold walk home.

Thank my wife for the spatula solution. I was impressed with her. :)

Grishbok 03-16-2013 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche (Post 797037)
I haven't examined my BRZ for this, but in the past I've been able to bend the "catch" that latches it closed, and make it easier to release, yet still be secure when closed.

Check to see if that's possible.

Secondly, even when the latch functions perfectly, on occasion here in the snow belt, the lid can be frozen closed.

We now carry a rubber kitchen spatula in the trunk to safely pry the gas lid open so we can fill the tank when we're out of fuel. It's a good security measure and it protects the paint. 'Cuz if the lid is frozen shut, and you cannot refuel ... you've got a cold walk home.

Thank my wife for the spatula solution. I was impressed with her. :)


Definitely thank her for me, id have never thought of the spatula. Ill try the white lithium grease

Gixxersixxerman 03-16-2013 05:29 AM

I have some powder graphite lubricant that I use on my door locks and claws and latches and other parts that rub like hinges and trunk and good hinges.. Also my tube has a needle aplicator and I hold the button in and spray some in there when I do my monthly mantience.. It's over kill, but I got this huge tube back when I worked at a shop for this very reason.. A sticky fuel door and it fixed it right up.. It's powder so it doesn't gum up as much as the greases do.. It can be a bit messy, but it's amazing stuff.. Use it in my older outdoor locks when I had a storage and it made them butter smooth when at one time it felt as the key would snap instead of turn...

Shagaliscious 03-16-2013 09:18 AM

I had this happen once. I think I tried 2 or 3 times and it didn't open. Then I pushed the lid in (thinking maybe it didn't latch completely), and that did the trick. Next time I pulled the lever it opened.

Deadspool 03-16-2013 06:47 PM

This happened to me this morning. Pulled 3 times to open.

jwjknorr 03-17-2013 10:57 PM

Happens to me , anyone find a fix?

Grishbok 03-20-2013 01:27 AM

dealer shrugged and said keep at it until it breaks for good, then bring it in. Ive gotten maybe 1 or 2 out of 5 that open on the first pull, the rest is all guess and check.

abutterman 03-20-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Grishbok (Post 804977)
dealer shrugged and said keep at it until it breaks for good, then bring it in. Ive gotten maybe 1 or 2 out of 5 that open on the first pull, the rest is all guess and check.

So basically they won't fix it till it won't open anymore. and there's a decent chance that if it does fail completely, you wouldn't know until you're going to get gas because you know, maybe, you're running out of gas? And then hope that you have enough gas to get it to the dealer. Another quality response from the service department :bonk:


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