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Walexis 12-31-2011 01:03 AM

16" rims?
 
I found a movie on youtube.
Are these 16" rims?
I like these more than the 17"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J5Ib...eature=related

JDLM 12-31-2011 01:09 AM

I don't think a 16 or 17 foot rim will fit

fwiw: looks like the factory 17" wheel

Walexis 12-31-2011 01:22 AM

Oops typo...
The red one in the start of the movie looks like to have the standard 16" wheels.
Also the grey one at the end.

JDLM 12-31-2011 01:27 AM

I didn't pay attention to that one..I saw the one pulling around the drive lol

ayau 12-31-2011 01:33 AM

You can see that some of them are the lower spec versions from the standard HVAC.

It looks just like the FR-S's HVAC.

chulooz 12-31-2011 02:23 AM

Sure looks like some of those are 16 inchers. WRX 4pots squeeze under a few sets of 16s.:thumbsup:

Levi 12-31-2011 08:19 AM

Yes 16". They look good enough, but I am not sure I would use 16" for tracking.

2fast4you 12-31-2011 02:40 PM

^^ The wheels pictured above are 17x7 +48 wheels. The tires are 215/45-17.

The 86 has alternate (I won't say "optional" yet) 16x6.5 +48 wheels with 205/55-16 tires.

Levi 12-31-2011 03:14 PM

...and optional stagared 18" rims.

JDLM 12-31-2011 03:15 PM

TPMS will be mandatory on the cars THANK YOU TO NHSTA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi (Post 106287)
...and optional stagared 18" rims.

They will most likely stagger tires not wheels

ayau 12-31-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLM (Post 106288)
TPMS will be mandatory on the cars THANK YOU TO NHSTA



They will most likely stagger tires not wheels

What's the reasoning behind the staggered tires only?

Sasquachulator 12-31-2011 04:31 PM

IMO that is all the drop that car really needs!
Even wheel well gap? CHECK!

JDLM 12-31-2011 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 106294)
What's the reasoning behind the staggered tires only?

Cost

They can make 4 wheels the same size (ie: 18X8 " wheel) toss on staggered tires

BMW does this with the I cars not so much the XI cars

Dave-ROR 12-31-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numbchux (Post 106273)
Soooo.....for those that don't have your subaru brake dimensions memorized. The 276mm rotors and dual-piston calipers (commonly known as RS brakes, but used on old turbo legacies, Legacy GTs, and newer base model legacies and imprezas), fit under 15" wheels.

Except that they are 11.6" front and 11.4" rear..

ayau 12-31-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLM (Post 106344)
Cost

They can make 4 wheels the same size (ie: 18X8 " wheel) toss on staggered tires

BMW does this with the I cars not so much the XI cars

I can see that happening since the stock setup isn't staggered.

ayau 12-31-2011 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 106398)
Except that they are 11.6" front and 11.4" rear..

Seems like you're pretty familiar with brakes.

The JDM low-spec comes with ventilated fronts and non-ventilated rears, and the high-spec has ventilated discs for both.

I think the FR-S comes with ventilated fronts and rears. Are ventilated much better? Do they cost a lot more?

I think their reasoning is because the JDM low-spec comes with 16'' wheels instead of 17''. This means you don't need as much stopping power compared to the heavier 17'' wheels. It will also decrease cost.

JDLM 12-31-2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 106411)
Seems like you're pretty familiar with brakes.

The JDM low-spec comes with ventilated fronts and non-ventilated rears, and the high-spec has ventilated discs for both.

I think the FR-S comes with ventilated fronts and rears. Are ventilated much better? Do they cost a lot more?

I think their reasoning is because the JDM low-spec comes with 16'' wheels instead of 17''. This means you don't need as much stopping power compared to the heavier 17'' wheels. It will also decrease cost.

Vented Vs. Non-Vented Brake Rotors

By Jeremy Cato, eHow Contributor


http://img.ehowcdn.com/article-page-...rs-800x800.jpg Vented car brake rotor Your vehicle's braking system involves a fairly complex arrangement of parts. One of the most important of those parts is the brake rotor. This can be either vented or non-vented.
Related Searches:
  1. Brake Rotor

    • The rotor is the main stopping mechanism of the disc brake, which is the type of brake used in most modern cars. When the brake pedal is pushed down, the brake pads press against the rotors to stop the vehicle. The amount of stopping force applied to the rotors is proportional to the amount of pressure applied to the brake pedal.

    Vented Brake Rotors

    • Vented brake rotors have holes and grooves drilled through them all around the perimeter of the brake. This allows for faster dissipation of heat that builds up when the brake pads act on the rotor. Vented brake rotors are most often used in large or high-speed vehicles. They are also often made out of ceramic or other strong synthetic materials.

    Non-Vented Brake Rotors

    • Non-vented brake rotors are most commonly made of solid iron. They are better suited for smaller, slower commuter vehicles (small cars, light trucks, small vans). Non-vented brake rotors also tend to last longer than vented ones.


Dave-ROR 12-31-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 106411)
Seems like you're pretty familiar with brakes.

The JDM low-spec comes with ventilated fronts and non-ventilated rears, and the high-spec has ventilated discs for both.

I think the FR-S comes with ventilated fronts and rears. Are ventilated much better? Do they cost a lot more?

I think their reasoning is because the JDM low-spec comes with 16'' wheels instead of 17''. This means you don't need as much stopping power compared to the heavier 17'' wheels. It will also decrease cost.

Ventilated are required for the front. The rotor has multiple jobs, one is to provide a friction surface with the pad, then to remove heat from the pad and caliper and third to remove heat from the brake system. Ventilating rotors help with taking heat out of the pads and calipers and with removing the heat due to their 1) larger mass and 2) ventilation.

Solids are just fine in the rear, but I'm good with ventilated as well. The S2000 uses solid rear rotors and it's just fine on the track.

The rear rotors aren't much different on the low spec (although I haven't seen numbers, it seems logical that the WRX rear 11.3" solid units would be used, both seem to use the 11.6" WRX fronts). Both realistically should fit with 16" wheels, not every 16" probably but many of them.

The larger wheel size will make brakes work harder but either brake setup will have the power to lock up the tires, and if you can lock up the tires than you have more than enough brake force. Whether or not you have large enough heat sinks (rotors) for repeated high speed stops is the question, and the reason for the larger vented brakes all around.

Dave-ROR 12-31-2011 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLM (Post 106413)
Vented Vs. Non-Vented Brake Rotors

By Jeremy Cato, eHow Contributor


Vented car brake rotor Your vehicle's braking system involves a fairly complex arrangement of parts. One of the most important of those parts is the brake rotor. This can be either vented or non-vented.
Related Searches:
  1. Brake Rotor

    • The rotor is the main stopping mechanism of the disc brake, which is the type of brake used in most modern cars. When the brake pedal is pushed down, the brake pads press against the rotors to stop the vehicle. The amount of stopping force applied to the rotors is proportional to the amount of pressure applied to the brake pedal.

    Vented Brake Rotors


    • Vented brake rotors have holes and grooves drilled through them all around the perimeter of the brake. This allows for faster dissipation of heat that builds up when the brake pads act on the rotor. Vented brake rotors are most often used in large or high-speed vehicles. They are also often made out of ceramic or other strong synthetic materials.

    Non-Vented Brake Rotors


    • Non-vented brake rotors are most commonly made of solid iron. They are better suited for smaller, slower commuter vehicles (small cars, light trucks, small vans). Non-vented brake rotors also tend to last longer than vented ones.


Uhmm that sounds like he's really describing blanks vs cross drilled and/or slotted rotors, not really vented vs non-vented rotors, especially when you throw that pic in with it. And vented rotors are generally iron. Sounds like he's mixing carbon brakes in there too.

I would actually just remove and ignore that entire post, it's so unclear and potentially misinforming that it's not worth having. Oh, and tires stop the car, not the rotors :P (ok unless the wheels and tires have fallen off...)

JDLM 12-31-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 106416)
Uhmm that sounds like he's really describing blanks vs cross drilled and/or slotted rotors, not really vented vs non-vented rotors, especially when you through that pic in with it.

Yeah I noticed, I think that E-how just tosses pics up as representation

ayau 12-31-2011 08:39 PM

Very good info. Is this an accurate picture showing vented vs. non-vented rotors?

I'm guessing vented is on the left and non-vented is on the right. You can see slots on the right rotor.

http://tvr.olenik.com/images/ventedr...or-side-lg.jpg

Walexis 12-31-2011 08:54 PM

Good info guys.
I hope will be able to put BBK into a 16" aftermarket wheels.
Just need to check out the local available tire selection.

Dave-ROR 01-01-2012 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 106431)
Very good info. Is this an accurate picture showing vented vs. non-vented rotors?

I'm guessing vented is on the left and non-vented is on the right. You can see slots on the right rotor.

http://tvr.olenik.com/images/ventedr...or-side-lg.jpg

Yep :thumbup:

Dave-ROR 01-01-2012 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walexis (Post 106434)
Good info guys.
I hope will be able to put BBK into a 16" aftermarket wheels.
Just need to check out the local available tire selection.

A bbk will definitely not fit under 16s. The stock brakes will.

ayau 01-01-2012 03:25 AM

Oops, I meant to say vented rotors on the left.


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