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fiveoneoh 03-08-2013 03:12 PM

color truths and half truths
 
Hi all,
Just wanted to collect some information on people's experiences with the different colors.
For example, pretty much everyone agrees that black is the hardest color to keep clean, while White is easiest to keep clean. And I just read on a post that red fades the fastest.

What are some more generally true experiences about other colors?

shawnperolis 03-08-2013 03:14 PM

White cars look fresh to death.

Truth.

RWD-boxer 03-08-2013 03:18 PM

Black cars suck

Do you want mine


Thenittis.com

b.e 03-08-2013 03:23 PM

In the sun, the surface temperature of white cars is about 10-15 degrees lower than any other color. Black is hottest, 20 higher than white. This is in Utah, 4500 feet elevation (lots of UV in our sunlight). At lower elevations it isn't so extreme.

kbye 03-08-2013 03:29 PM

the "truth" is that color preference is subjective and all colors can look amazing if you maintain it properly. a different color does not make it easier to keep clean, it just makes it easier to mask the dirtiness.

fiveoneoh 03-08-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbye (Post 780963)
the "truth" is that color preference is subjective and all colors can look amazing if you maintain it properly. a different color does not make it easier to keep clean, it just makes it easier to mask the dirtiness.


well, yes thanks for the clarification. that is what i was getting at. white masks dirt easier while black (or other dark colors) can tend to highlight every imperfection. Was particularly trying to avoid subjectivity in this thread.

Eurasianman 03-08-2013 04:01 PM

And regardless of how dirty your car is, if it's DGM, it looks clean from a distance :lol:

Well, at least to me, it does.

FRSFirestorm 03-08-2013 04:02 PM

<<< Red is Fastest :)

KSC 03-08-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbye (Post 780963)
the "truth" is that color preference is subjective and all colors can look amazing if you maintain it properly. a different color does not make it easier to keep clean, it just makes it easier to mask the dirtiness.

Yup. At one time I had a 8 year old silver car and 8 month old black car. The black I had just washed 24 hours prior, the silver hadn't seen soap in over a month. Silver loaked great, black, not so much.

OrbitalEllipses 03-08-2013 04:06 PM

Rock chips on WRB will make you cry. Nearly all the WRB I've seen (including mine) are super orange peeled.

Giccin 03-08-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eurasianman (Post 781025)
And regardless of how dirty your car is, if it's DGM, it looks clean from a distance :lol:

Well, at least to me, it does.

Haha
:clap:

Its true.. black cars look clean and relatively good at a distance.

Until you start getting closer. :P

Eurasianman 03-08-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSFirestorm (Post 781028)
<<< Red is Fastest :)

Also cop magnets in my book.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSC (Post 781038)
Yup. At one time I had a 8 year old silver car and 8 month old black car. The black I had just washed 24 hours prior, the silver hadn't seen soap in over a month. Silver loaked great, black, not so much.

Truth! My wife use to have a Toyota Yaris S Sedan that was silver. Hadn't washed it in months. Finally decided to wash it, even though it didn't look that dirty. I kid you not, when we started soaking the car, the water running off of it was brownish :lol:

JoeBoxer 03-08-2013 04:27 PM

White is not easy to keep clean, i would say silver would be less trouble to keep looking good.

Liquidsnake 03-08-2013 04:31 PM

Whit is a magnet for bird poop. :(

Silver is the easiest car to maintain. No joke.
I will never own another black car again. After a few years if it is not waxed it looks like ass with all the swirls.

Beyer Subaru 03-08-2013 04:35 PM

These cars should have been available in yellow.

White is the most ticketed color in the US. It is also the most bought/sold color. - For all cars, trucks, etc..

86'd 03-08-2013 04:43 PM

As stated, keeping white clean is a myth perpetrated by the SWP lobby.

There's the aforementioned bird poop and road tar. SWP does hide it a bit more than say an alpine white or grand prix white, but all SWP does is turn more brown. :(

Black is a bit harder because of the swirls and how hard it is to keep a good shine.

Oh and white also hides hard water pretty well.

ST185RC 03-08-2013 04:47 PM

When light is reflected off the white surface you are seeing all the colours of the visible spectrum combined. Therefore, white is the absence of colour, yet contains all the colours we perceive. We can conclude that my car is rainbow coloured with unicorns farts coming out the exhaust.

Want.FR-S 03-08-2013 04:50 PM

Yellow and green are the two colors that are missing in this car, metallic or not.

JustStan 03-08-2013 04:54 PM

I agree that silver is the most forgiving color, but after 13 years with a silver car I need a change...so I'm switching to white.

Beyer Subaru 03-08-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustStan (Post 781174)
I agree that silver is the most forgiving color, but after 13 years with a silver car I need a change...so I'm switching to white.

Baby steps.

Laika 03-08-2013 05:03 PM

I don't think it's a question whether white is easy to keep clean or not. It's as difficult as any other color to keep clean. The thing with white is it tricks the eye when it's uniformly dirty (or even close to). You don't actually realize how gunked up a white car is till you clean even a small section.


My last car was black. Never again. NEVER. My other car is a bland bluish silver and I get lazy about washing it because I never notice a difference before and after.



Quote:

Originally Posted by b.e (Post 780947)
In the sun, the surface temperature of white cars is about 10-15 degrees lower than any other color. Black is hottest, 20 higher than white. This is in Utah, 4500 feet elevation (lots of UV in our sunlight). At lower elevations it isn't so extreme.


I've heard this a million and one times and always thought one thing. "What does it matter?" Aside from the door handle, you're not touching the paint nonetheless laying on it bareback. Isn't the interior color more relevant here? If so I'm glad my car has red stitching, black stitching would have made it 0.00000000000000000000000000000000001 degree hotter in there.

Dorb 03-08-2013 05:03 PM

I've been told whatever color it is, the more chrome it has the faster it will go....

HunterGreene 03-08-2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST185RC (Post 781151)
When light is reflected off the white surface you are seeing all the colours of the visible spectrum combined. Therefore, white is the absence of colour, yet contains all the colours we perceive. We can conclude that my car is rainbow coloured with unicorns farts coming out the exhaust.

Half right. White just means that all the colors are being reflected, NOT an absence of color, as with black, where the light is largely being absorbed. Part of the reason that black cars are hotter in the sunlight.

Ganthrithor 03-08-2013 05:24 PM

My GTI is silverstone grey and doesn't look too bad after months of filthiness. My dad's black 135 looks filthy within ten minutes of being washed. Hope this helps.

DSOmegaX 03-08-2013 05:49 PM

Buying white, black, or silver means you're a lemming =P. j/k j/k but seriously theres a lot of these colors on the road. Might as well pick something to stand out amongst the crowd.

http://www.ppg.com/en/newsroom/news/...20121010A.aspx

dammitcubs 03-08-2013 06:18 PM

agreed...waiting for hot pink to come out. jk jk

FRSFirestorm 03-08-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eurasianman (Post 781091)
Also cop magnets in my book.

Who knows? :burnrubber:http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/redcars.asp

jimmillion 03-08-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorb (Post 781190)
I've been told whatever color it is, the more chrome it has the faster it will go....

stickers my friend, stickers.

each one equates to an increase of 5whp. :lol:

Juvenile 03-08-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustStan (Post 781174)
I agree that silver is the most forgiving color, but after 13 years with a silver car I need a change...so I'm switching to white.

Same here, but good thing about silver is it looks clean when dirty and immaculate when washed..

jeebus 03-08-2013 06:54 PM

SWP has s bunch of pearl in it that's a PITA to paint match and even from the factory you can see a pretty distinct difference in the color of the rear bumper to the rest of the car.

Soslow 03-08-2013 07:58 PM

I'm sorry for you Toyota guys, you see us Subaru people are very familiar with Subaru's crap paint. I'm guessing You guys not so much so let me bring you up to speed. Subaru paint sucks, a lot. Always has.

GNS 03-08-2013 08:17 PM

You don't own a black car, it owns YOU.

Giccin 03-08-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dammitcubs (Post 781337)
agreed...waiting for hot pink to come out. jk jk


I'd buy it if it was Yashio Factory Pink. :)


Also.. people don't seem to notice ORANGE cars. Been rear ended twice and almost hit on the 22East from some dumbass kid who changed 3 lanes over. Actually I think that was his negligence. lol

BRZfan 03-08-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSFirestorm (Post 781028)
<<< Red is Fastest :)

Sterling silver metallic is the speed of light.

Blue86 03-08-2013 10:45 PM

silver is easiest to keep clean

was385 03-08-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiveoneoh (Post 780922)
Hi all,
Just wanted to collect some information on people's experiences with the different colors.
For example, pretty much everyone agrees that black is the hardest color to keep clean, while White is easiest to keep clean. And I just read on a post that red fades the fastest.

What are some more generally true experiences about other colors?

I got a WRB because that's just how everything shook out, but GBS is still my favorite color. I will say, red and white both looked way better in person than I expected. Also, when it's dusk out, WRB is pure sex. Just downright gorgeous.

Marcoscrdo 03-08-2013 11:18 PM

I like the metallic in DGM :)

iLuveKetchup 03-08-2013 11:33 PM

SSM doesnt show scratches & ages well. No need to wash ever.

DGM looks like a dirty black car after 10yrs under the sun.

SWP is really beige.

Black is not a color, it's a hobby.

Sport-Tech 03-08-2013 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 781039)
Rock chips on WRB will make you cry. Nearly all the WRB I've seen (including mine) are super orange peeled.

I was just reading today a long-term test update on a Premium WRB - their first complaint was the paint was so bad the car could not even be delivered to them until they had it "corrected".

Sport-Tech 03-09-2013 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup (Post 781904)
SWP is really beige.

It only looks beige to you because you live in NYC; that charming brown smog-generated glow that passes for sunlight there is playing tricks on you. :D


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