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Shadowsong6 03-07-2013 10:43 PM

Twins vs. a used C6?
 
Now, I'm not talking performance, I'm talking for grins and fun factor, which would you buy for the money? As a 20-something with no need for a back seat in the foreseeable future, that plans on daily driving it, showing it, tracking on the weekends occasionally?

I was pretty dead set on the frs, only because the thought of a corvette hadnt even crossed my mind, till I knew what they were going for used anyway.. Lol

ZDan 03-07-2013 10:58 PM

If used is OK with you, and FR-S performance is OK with you, and no back seat required, why not get a used S2000 and keep $10k or more in your pocket?

Shadowsong6 03-07-2013 11:04 PM

I have a massive hatred of anything with a ragtop, otherwise I would certainly consider an s2000. I don't want to buy a hardtop to put on the s2000 just so ill like the car.

n2oinferno 03-07-2013 11:10 PM

LS3 C6? If not, I vote C5 Z06.

ScionFrsFan 03-07-2013 11:23 PM

You live in texas...with that kind of weather I'd pick the corvette any day. Mods to a Corvette would be amazing too. The corvette exhaust note alone should put a grin on you :)

leon78 03-07-2013 11:45 PM

I had an 88 C4 vette before the FR-S, and thats why I got it....wanted to get away from the high HP FWD thing...low sitting RWD coupe was just way more fun for weekend duty. There are plenty of cherry C6's with less than 70k in the 23-28k range....I would go vette....b/c Merica. But I got my SB fix with the C10 i got now aswell....happy shopping.

ScionFrsFan 03-07-2013 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by leon78 (Post 779582)
I had an 88 C4 vette before the FR-S, and thats why I got it....wanted to get away from the high HP FWD thing...low sitting RWD coupe was just way more fun for weekend duty. There are plenty of cherry C6's with less than 70k in the 23-28k range....I would go vette....b/c Merica. But I got my SB fix with the C10 i got now aswell....happy shopping.

haha bc merica :bellyroll:

On a side note: The world slowest fast looking car I think was the celica lol pervious car.

fatoni 03-07-2013 11:57 PM

i think the biggest factors besides new vs used is going to be the question of how much of the corvettes speed you want to use. the corvette is the closest thing to a budget supercar i can think of but the term budget is relative. replacing consumables like tires and brakes isnt exactly cheap and its never fun having to plan on making car payments and setting money aside for maintenance.

personally, i would (well i would honestly be looking at a c5 because of the price drop) hold out until the c7 does some damage to the used c6 market.

leon78 03-08-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ScionFrsFan (Post 779593)
haha bc merica :bellyroll:

On a side note: The world slowest fast looking car I think was the celica lol pervious car.

HAHA....ya...if your a female and it was auto.

ScionFrsFan 03-08-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by leon78 (Post 779609)
HAHA....ya...if your a female and it was auto.


haha it was a auto too...gt version.

140hp 120tq 4 speed auto. 10 sec car....to 60:burnrubber:

Lonewolf 03-08-2013 12:05 AM

If you are still under 24, you are going to be eaten alive by insurance on the Vette.

Also, since the car will be mostly for DD duty, you are not going to be able to access the car's best feature (straight-line speed) without getting tickets and running out of room to stretch its legs very quickly.

I've only driven a C6 once, and it just "drove big." I don't know how else to describe it, but it felt like a I was driving something even longer and wider than it really was...

I have to say that you can get decent mileage with the C6 when cruising on the freeway, which is always a plus.

Go drive one, see what you think...

Shadowsong6 03-08-2013 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 779614)
If you are still under 24, you are going to be eaten alive by insurance on the Vette.

Also, since the car will be mostly for DD duty, you are not going to be able to access the car's best feature (straight-line speed) without getting tickets and running out of room to stretch its legs very quickly.

I've only driven a C6 once, and it just "drove big." I don't know how else to describe it, but it felt like a I was driving something even longer and wider than it really was...

I have to say that you can get decent mileage with the C6 when cruising on the freeway, which is always a plus.

Go drive one, see what you think...

As someone mentioned before, I do live in Texas, the Houston area more specifically, meaning I have quite a bit of long, straight stretches of road (more of those than proper driving roads, sadly) so I will have decent room to stretch her legs (within legal limits ;) )

I know what you mean, my dad had a C5 for a while, I drove it a few times and it felt much larger than it really was sometimes, it was an odd feeling. My buddy's srt challenger has the same problem... Except it really is big! :lol:

WillBRZ 03-08-2013 12:33 AM

Vette.

whaap 03-08-2013 12:59 AM

There are a few cars a guy should own at least one of in his life time. If you're going to turn your head and look each time one of them passes you, you might as well buy the Vette and get it out of your system. There were two cars in my life that I had to have, a Corvette and a 911. The only way I got over the itch was to scratch and I ended up owning one of each in my lifetime. That's the only cure. Now when I see one of them on the road I just smile. "So many cars, so little time!!"

OrbitalEllipses 03-08-2013 01:02 AM

C6. Does the GS come in FRC? Otherwise Z06.

suaveflooder 03-08-2013 03:56 AM

I'm gonna vote vette as well.

Miniata 03-08-2013 05:02 AM

If you're keeping your Mustang (and it is a GT), I'd say get the BRZ/FRS. If you are getting rid of your Mustang, I'd get the C6. Personally I need at least one vehicle in my garage with some torque, and the BRZ isn't it.

jstans84 03-08-2013 05:40 AM

I am going to use a graphical representation of my answer to answer your question.

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Sonolin 03-08-2013 05:52 AM

I'd say, considering your age & possible situation in life, I'd vote for the FR-S. BUT, if your ok with a car that would potentially require work (OK with purchasing a used car), I highly recommend the corvette.

I, personally, come from a corvette fanatic family so I love that car, and would love to someday own one. C5 Z06 would be killer and relatively budget friendly - just find a good one, well kept, and in the right transmission you want ;)

However, I personally just bought an FR-S because I'm looking to someday own a home and am young (21). Initially, I was actually going to purchase a newer muscle car (I love the newer Mustang GTs, as well as all the newer Camaros), and was also eyeing corvettes. But, I tried to do the more "responsible" thing and purchase a good daily driver that would last me a while, and it has great mileage as well.

That being said, I'm sure you'll have tons of fun with whichever choice you make :). I personally love the FR-S, and the potential for power is there if needed. It is just such a great daily driver, and is really a fun (and fast!) car. Tracking sounds a lot easier to me in the FR-S as well, as a corvette would be much more of a handful. Not to mention my FR-S is a new car.

A corvette would be a totally different animal :D

grodenglaive 03-08-2013 07:35 AM

It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. If you've never tracked before, a vette is not the best place to start.
Not that you can't do it, it's just got a steeper learning curve and the consequences are worse if you screw up.

Noob4Life 03-08-2013 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by grodenglaive (Post 780026)
It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.

The perfect quote for an frs forum haha


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GTB/ZR-1 03-08-2013 07:42 AM

One word: Torque...

WolfpackS2k 03-08-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 779601)
i think the biggest factors besides new vs used is going to be the question of how much of the corvettes speed you want to use. the corvette is the closest thing to a budget supercar i can think of but the term budget is relative. replacing consumables like tires and brakes isnt exactly cheap and its never fun having to plan on making car payments and setting money aside for maintenance.

personally, i would (well i would honestly be looking at a c5 because of the price drop) hold out until the c7 does some damage to the used c6 market.

As far as consumables go tires will be considerably more expensive, but not brakes. Brakes for the Corvette are cheap as hell. It's some strange anomaly that nobody can explain :confused0068:

industrial 03-08-2013 12:57 PM

The vette is a legitimately fast car. Going fast is fun but day to day I think you'd be hard pressed to really wring out the car. It'll feel like a quick blip here and there and it's over. The ft86 is a fun car you can use day to day. Merging you can really wring out the car and feel like you're going fast when you're not.

I'm going to go against the crowd here and say to get a ft86 for grins since it's a fun light proper sports car. The vette is more of a supercarish grandtourer without any of the panache. Fun too I guess but I think I'd honestly rather have a mustang gt than a regular vette. At least the meets wouldn't be mostly 50 year old dudes. :lol:

chaoskaze 03-08-2013 01:46 PM

Twin<30+<Vette

if u are still young twin is better, but if u are around mid 30 definitely the vette.

Sonolin 03-08-2013 02:25 PM

Another thing to keep in mind - others are commenting on getting the FR-S first, as its slower. And this is very good advice, IMO. The corvette is a fast car - keep in mind, with all that lower end torque and high horsepower you can easily spin the tires out if you floor it coming out of a corner.

Driving the Frs/86/Brz is much different. While you can easily get it to drift on stock tires, it only does exactly what you the driver commands. Its very controllable, it has a low COG, its lighter than the corvette, it also has better gas mileage. These are all points +1 for the FRS, its the best "first" sports car IMO as it really does teach you the basics of driving. I can't wait to track mine!

If your not experienced with RWD vehicles I'd definitely recommend the Frs.

And I'm sure the Frs is (almost) as fun on public roads. I would probably lose my license if I owned a corvette :P

rapidcars 03-08-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonolin (Post 780673)
And I'm sure the Frs is (almost) as fun on public roads. I would probably lose my license if I owned a corvette :P

This. Rented one once and drove through the Arizona desert to the Grand Canyon and it's crazy how easy the speed builds. Tap the gas and next thing you know you're going 120+. Not to mention the sound of that V8 is orgasmic. At the end of the day though, it actually started to feel slow and the thrill of punching it started to fade. They also drive extremely big and don't feel all that agile even though there is tons of grip. I'd love to own one eventually but not if it was my only car.

sol740 03-08-2013 03:03 PM

Having just sold a Z06 and bought an FRS,(do not read that as I replaced the vette with, because that's not quite accurate) I'll say it depends what your purpose for having the car is. Daily driver? Have any kids? Have another DD? How protective are you of your car? Do you actually have the cash to buy the car, and not stretch yourself too thin (not trying to sound like a d&@! here, just saying)

People ask me why I sold my Z06, damn near every time I mention it. Here is the list, and reference your own reasons. Make no mistake, the vette is by far, the "better" sports car. Hence the price tag, but the upfront cost is only part of what you spend.

I didn't push the car anymore, I was too worried about devaluing it, and after it ticked over the 40k mileage mark, I got really stingy. Again, more worried about putting miles on it, than having fun with it.

I was tired of having two cars, one daily and the vette. Tired of the maintenance of 3 cars (wifes too) 3 sets of tires, one set being close to 2 grand and staggered so you can't rotate. Oh, and if you drive like I do sometimes, they wear quick.

I wanted to be able to go from work and pick up my kids from school without going home first.

My previous car was an Evo, relatively cheap mods. Vettes are not cheap to mod, and you are hurting it's value. My Z stayed stock.

I hated taking the car out to movies, or the mall, I was always worried about people screwing with it, or hitting it with their doors. Sometimes I'd park out of the way, then I'd worry about someone screwing with it BECAUSE I was the dbag that parks his vette way far out of the way.

Want to race, and none of the above bothers you? Buy the Vette. Want to have fun, in a relatively cheap car, that still provides thrills, looks good, and is slightly more practical? Twins.

Also gas mileage was surprisingly good in the vette, so I didn't mention it.

Shadowsong6 03-08-2013 05:00 PM

Wow, I wasn't expecting this thread to get as many responses as it did lol. Lots of good advice here, and (surprisingly) not a lot of bias.

WolfpackS2k 03-08-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sol740 (Post 780758)
Sometimes I'd park out of the way, then I'd worry about someone screwing with it BECAUSE I was the dbag that parks his vette way far out of the way.

Nobody think you're a douchebag for parking far away. You're only perceived as a douchebag if you take up several spots, regardless of the location.

I always park far away.:party0030:

fasteddy 03-08-2013 07:14 PM

All other issues aside, I would skip the vette simply because the interior still looks and feels like a 1993 Camaro interior.

They are awesome performers though, especially for what they cost. I have just been disappointed every time I sat in one.

Pat

Rampage 03-08-2013 07:39 PM

Unless you are rich or very well off financially there are only two times in your life when you can own a Vette. Those are either pre-marriage and family or post marriage and family (middle aged). I always sort of wanted one but by the time I could afford it (post marriage and family) I had outgrown my desire for one. If the Vette is a car that you have always wanted then buy it now while you can really enjoy it and the compromises of owning it will not interfere with the rest of your life.


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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 781061)
Nobody think you're a douchebag for parking far away. You're only perceived as a douchebag if you take up several spots, regardless of the location.

I always park far away.:party0030:

No, they do not think you are a douchebag. They know exactly why your car is parked way out there by itself but then some of them will become douchbags and purposely go out there and mess with your car out of spite or jealousy.

Timmy_Jones 03-12-2013 01:04 PM

A C6 vette would be fun, but the C5 Z06 is a better car (in my opinion). 400+ horsepower and the damn thing weighs like 3,000lbs. Very rigid and has an incredible transmission. The best words to describe a Z06 is capable and dangerous. You can literally get in trouble anywhere at anytime with a vette. It wil punish your mistakes. With that said, I would buy the Z06 for a fun car.

I would assimilate this conversation to the common sportbike argument....

Should I buy a Ninja 250/500 or a 600cc bike first?

Well....the 250/500 V twins are plenty fun and can get you in trouble, but one wrong blip of the throttle in a 600cc+ bike and you will get hurt, no question.

Drive them both, be honest about what you want from a vehicle. I really like the FR-S, but for a fun weekend car I would need it to be a little faster and have some more grunt down low.

Max Schnell 03-12-2013 08:08 PM

FRS you try to kill your car while driving it on public roads and have fun doing it...

Corvette tries to kill you while you are having fun trying not to die while driving it.

In the end both are fun. I went with the Z06 after test driving both.

_hollywood 03-12-2013 09:14 PM

The twins can hold more golf bags in the back, and you wont have to worry about seeing another one at the golf course....

PureSportsCars 03-13-2013 12:59 AM

I have a C5 roadster with 38k miles on it and i love it. That being said, I'm selling it to buy a BRZ...

switchlanez 03-13-2013 01:15 AM

Might be hard to find a used manual 'Vette that hasn't been beat on for a good price. <-- Speaking from experience.

Timmy_Jones 03-13-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 789956)
Might be hard to find a used manual 'Vette that hasn't been beat on for a good price. <-- Speaking from experience.

After all those guys 50+ owned them with low miles? Maybe a bit more $ than a high mileage, but worth it.

PureSportsCars 03-13-2013 12:28 PM

Its pretty easy to find a vette that hasn't been beat on. I have one. The vette owners club that is in my area is all 50+ year old dudes who only drive their cars to the OC meeting and on the rallys and cruises that the club does. And i've only seen a couple of them even blip the throttle.

switchlanez 03-13-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones (Post 790412)
After all those guys 50+ owned them with low miles? Maybe a bit more $ than a high mileage, but worth it.

Exactly my point. Are low mileage, babied 'Vettes (of the sort the OP is looking for) now at the pricepoint of a new FR-S? Every used RWD sports car I've owned has had some sort of surprise problem pop-up after months of ownership. I've learned used sports cars are notorious for this. Now if it were a used family sedan or luxury car or automatic 'Vette, then I'd be less weary. Or if I paid the premium/got lucky finding a low mileage babied Corvette ($30k+ asking prices when I shopped). To me, the OP's question boils down to "do I buy a new sports car or a thoroughly used sports car?" assuming the prices match. I vote new every time.

Talking about getting it out of your system and used sports cars, wouldn't a much rarer supercar be more desirable to get out of your system? If you're considering the FR-S and its power level, then you might not be disappointed with an NSX! I'd choose that over the common 'Vette if I had to buy a used sports car.


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