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MikesFRS 03-06-2013 03:14 PM

Greddy turbo
 
http://greddy-usa.blogspot.com/2013/...o-kit.html?m=1

You guys catch this yet?

Cessblood 03-06-2013 05:27 PM

Yes I did. I check greddy's website once a week lol.

OjiGeorge 03-06-2013 05:42 PM

So many options, so hard to decide.

EvilBeaverFace 03-06-2013 05:47 PM

Someone mind posting the details? Site is blocked at my work.

Thanks

shu5892001 03-06-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilBeaverFace (Post 776481)
Someone mind posting the details? Site is blocked at my work.

Thanks

Just wait until you get home lol

EvilBeaverFace 03-06-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shu5892001 (Post 776497)
Just wait until you get home lol

Not all that exciting?

Boredom is getting the better of me

RRnold 03-06-2013 06:23 PM

Nice!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-au03crljBN..._FRS_under.jpg

Fortunate Few 03-06-2013 09:00 PM

not sure if i like the layout of it. :/ The greddy kits for the rx8 didn't work too well from what I remember. Still leaning towards the FBM kit.

DriftEightSix 03-06-2013 09:54 PM

what is the mesh on the right two pipes?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-au03crljBN..._FRS_under.jpg

Tansey86 03-06-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DriftEightSix (Post 776962)
what is the mesh on the right two pipes?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-au03crljBN..._FRS_under.jpg

They are put there to give a little wiggle room in events of excessive flex I believe. Forget the actual name of them off hand.

DragynVyrus 03-06-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DriftEightSix (Post 776962)
what is the mesh on the right two pipes?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-au03crljBN..._FRS_under.jpg

They're flex pipes. The mesh covers a rippled flexible pipe.

stilletto 03-06-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fortunate Few (Post 776853)
..The greddy kits for the rx8 didn't work too well from what I remember..

Think the real issue with those failures were due to uneducated owners who threw mad amounts of boost at their stock rotaries.

RowTarEEE 03-07-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fortunate Few (Post 776853)
not sure if i like the layout of it. :/ The greddy kits for the rx8 didn't work too well from what I remember. Still leaning towards the FBM kit.

Remember this is not a Rotary. The seals on the RX-8 or any RX generation does not hold up well even without turbo. Mine was NA and the seals went out at 89k miles. Now the car is just sitting in my garage waiting for me to get a rebuild/engine replacement. :(

fenton 03-07-2013 12:24 PM

My Rx8 died at 75,000km all stock.

The greddy kit wasnt great for the rx8 because it wasnt sized correctly for high the redline was.

It ran out of steam at 7000 rpm and the manual reved to 9000rpm

Opposed 03-07-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fenton (Post 778078)
My Rx8 died at 75,000km all stock.

The greddy kit wasnt great for the rx8 because it wasnt sized correctly for high the redline was.

It ran out of steam at 7000 rpm and the manual reved to 9000rpm

Same reason it didn't work too well on the S2000 as well. Helped with the low end torque and midrange though.

Fortunate Few 03-07-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RowTarEEE (Post 778012)
Remember this is not a Rotary. The seals on the RX-8 or any RX generation does not hold up well even without turbo. Mine was NA and the seals went out at 89k miles. Now the car is just sitting in my garage waiting for me to get a rebuild/engine replacement. :(

the issue was the turbo breaking or something, not the engine. for the most part. My rx8's at 71k and running great.

fenton 03-07-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fortunate Few (Post 778175)
the issue was the turbo breaking or something, not the engine. for the most part. My rx8's at 71k and running great.

Mine was a 2004. I dont think any lived without a new motor.

I wonder how the 2009's are doing with the 3 oil metering pumps or whatever now.

I just couldnt deal with 200hp and only 18 to 13 mpg.

At least now i have 200hp and 30mpg.

FullTuneZN6 03-07-2013 02:08 PM

saw this yesterday, always checking greddy's page waiting for 3 things...release date, power @ boost level x, price...suspense is killing me

evo4g63 03-08-2013 01:57 AM

IMO that setup looks like shit

Toyota fr-s 03-08-2013 11:28 AM

There are a couple of things I like about this setup... 1. The flex pipes, they reduce the amount of stress on the manifold and helps avoid cracks. 2. The pipe routing, appears to me that it may be the optimum routing reducing the length and bends. 3. The inter cooler is not massive to the point that you can also run an oil cooler and 4. It has great presentation at top.

Just my opinion guys, I'm sure others have different. Now we just have to wait and see how it performs and compares to the competition.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WBgP_Cwg4o...S_trustFRS.jpg

JadeBRZ 03-08-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Toyota fr-s (Post 780278)
There are a couple of things I like about this setup... 1. The flex pipes, they reduce the amount of stress on the manifold and helps avoid cracks. 2. The pipe routing, appears to me that it may be the optimum routing reducing the length and bends. 3. The inter cooler is not massive to the point that you can also run an oil cooler and 4. It has great presentation at top.

Just my opinion guys, I'm sure others have different. Now we just have to wait and see how it performs and compares to the competition.

100% agree. Im torn between this and avo. I had the same turbo(t518z) on my WRX and it was great. Im not looking for high power just something a little faster for daily driving around town. but only 205whp from a supercharger doesn.t seem like worth it.

FullTuneZN6 03-08-2013 11:36 PM

I trust greddy, no pun intended, bc theyve been working very closely with this platform since it came out...

Greddy is notorious for taking their time with the R&D stage to make sure they put out a quality product that has that "turn key" reliability,

i agree with most that im not looking for huge power numbers bc this car is all about balance, i'm hoping for the hp in the 240-250whp range with tq #'s 200-210 with a conservative tune, I feel that would be about the sweet spot with this platform imo, good hp:wgt ratio with great handling....

stay tuned...:popcorn:

OjiGeorge 03-09-2013 04:05 AM

Hopefully they put out a tuner kit to keep the costs in check.. otherwise I'm guessing this will be in the $6k range

Toyota fr-s 03-10-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JadeBRZ (Post 781788)
100% agree. Im torn between this and avo. I had the same turbo(t518z) on my WRX and it was great. Im not looking for high power just something a little faster for daily driving around town. but only 205whp from a supercharger doesn.t seem like worth it.

Yes, I'm on the same boat as you between this one and the AVO kit. The one thing I don't like about the AVO kit are the bends, specially that U-shape bend right out of the turbo. Other than that, it appears to be great. This one, on the other hand, gets rid of that and throws all the other things I mentioned before.

I'll definitely be waiting for the results on this one. So far so good....

Stealthx 03-10-2013 01:39 PM

I'm in Japan, not mainland. And it is in a few of the new option magazines and ill look to see what power levels are. I know it is one of the top performers on time attack/lap battle. When I get back to my place ill look for it in there. I love the way They have been going producing great and better parts. For the 35rx to this platform. Beautiful.

Toyota fr-s 03-10-2013 02:12 PM

I can tell they really did their homework on this one.

Cessblood 03-11-2013 10:46 PM

It's 276hp @ 7170RPM; 218lb-ft @ 4780RPM. This info has been available since Jan 24. The only thing we don't know is the price of the kit. This kit is number one on my list and the TRD sc is second. Mostly I will get the greddy turbo kit.

http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/01/greddy-fr-s/

jdzumwalt 03-11-2013 11:23 PM

Greddy is good stuff had their kit on my 240sx put over 50k miles no issues great stuff and very complete.

Pure Automotive 03-12-2013 12:04 AM

Greddy has a tuner kit for pretty much every other platform, they range from 2800-4000 give or take, I know the market for our cars is crazy, but it's also getting a little competitive for entry level kits, I'd make an educated guess that its no more than $5k for the kit, but I could be wrong. The day they post a price I'll be taking pre-orders, maybe even a group buy if there's enough interest.

Toyota fr-s 03-12-2013 11:43 AM

^^^ group buy would be nice....

boead 03-18-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cessblood (Post 787372)
It's 276hp @ 7170RPM; 218lb-ft @ 4780RPM. This info has been available since Jan 24. The only thing we don't know is the price of the kit. This kit is number one on my list and the TRD sc is second. Mostly I will get the greddy turbo kit.

http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/01/greddy-fr-s/

This is going to be the kit for me!
Less tourque and hp is hard to justify the cost and loss in engine life.
275hp ratting for this car will make it quite fast!
Ummm, i taste mustang for breakfast ;-)

Mine is a daily driver, 90 miles/day off-hour traffic, 500 mile trips up to the mountains a couple of times a month. May trade-off some of the daily commute with a beater but still going to be putting miles on this car.

Need turn-key and reliability!

Is the Greddy FR-S like this giving up 200k miles??

jadewbj 03-18-2013 09:29 AM

I am liking this kit a lot, it may be the kit for me too.

diss7 03-18-2013 05:53 PM

If I was going FI, this kit would be my pic.

Just simple stuff like the flexi's on the manifold show they are thinking long term.

Great brand, great turbo (not ball bearing so can be rebuilt for naff all)

And, this kit will be for the hardware you need. You sort out the tuning and fueling. Not like all the other kits with included ecu flashes, some of which won't reduce the price if you don't want the flash.

Even the fact that another kit has recently come to market that (IMO) is a direct copy of this kit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadeBRZ (Post 781788)
100% agree. Im torn between this and avo. I had the same turbo(t518z) on my WRX and it was great. Im not looking for high power just something a little faster for daily driving around town. but only 205whp from a supercharger doesn.t seem like worth it.

Again, when I was considering FI, this is where I was. I'd used the t518z turbo before and it was amazing. Even when I popped a motor, I had the turbo rebuilt for less than $400.
I was all for the AVO kit, but over time I felt there was too many compromises made. The oil pump for a start is asking for trouble. The piping route and bends they ended up having to use in order to put the turbo where they wanted, and use the stock air box, are not ideal.
The turbo they are using, I have no respect for. Its a cheap turbo.
And, by using that cheap turbo and by mass producing the kit, we were told the price would be low, and I don't believe it is; compared to other kits that either include more product, a better quality turbo, or in most cases, both.

tokiokun717 03-19-2013 01:03 AM

http://www.trust-power.com/86_brz/GR_86_BRZ_catalog.pdf

Page 3 has the turbo kit. 280HP and the torque curve looks great too!

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 03-19-2013 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7 (Post 801372)
If I was going FI, this kit would be my pic.

Just simple stuff like the flexi's on the manifold show they are thinking long term.

Great brand, great turbo (not ball bearing so can be rebuilt for naff all)

And, this kit will be for the hardware you need. You sort out the tuning and fueling. Not like all the other kits with included ecu flashes, some of which won't reduce the price if you don't want the flash.

Even the fact that another kit has recently come to market that (IMO) is a direct copy of this kit.

I'm gonna guess you're implying about our turbo kit since its the only other one i've seen run the IC pipes both like that. If thats the case sorry to tell you that ive had the pipes like that long before greddy ever released or posted anything. If not then i apologize...

And you don't want flex joints like that on a turbo manifold...atleast not that specific type of bellow...but what do i know :)

OjiGeorge 03-19-2013 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokiokun717 (Post 802452)
http://www.trust-power.com/86_brz/GR_86_BRZ_catalog.pdf

Page 3 has the turbo kit. 280HP and the torque curve looks great too!

Nice find!

Not cheap, but I'm liking the power delivery.

diss7 03-19-2013 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse@JDLAutodesign (Post 802504)
I'm gonna guess you're implying about our turbo kit since its the only other one i've seen run the IC pipes both like that. If thats the case sorry to tell you that ive had the pipes like that long before greddy ever released or posted anything. If not then i apologize...

And you don't want flex joints like that on a turbo manifold...atleast not that specific type of bellow...but what do i know :)

Hey, maybe you are a guru, maybe you aren't. But implying that you know more than a massive well respected tuner like greddy/trust is a hell of a call to backup.

Floggin Tires 03-19-2013 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesse@JDLAutodesign
And you don't want flex joints like that on a turbo manifold...atleast not that specific type of bellow...but what do i know :)

There are some flex sections that have the innards lined different.
I would not use them, or see the need in this application.
If it was necessary it would be a different bellow altogether.
Anywho, I'm with you all the way.

I've seen real junk exhaust from Greddy/Trust.
Not saying its all cheap shit, but (their) crap shit is defiantly out there.

From the pics I've seen of this kit, and some past product... the pic below comes to mind.
Imagine the remnants of this at 200someMPH slamming into the turbine.
Below is not a greddy product. Just some thought.
Attachment 31235

But I shouldn't jump to conclusions lets see the production kit execution.

TylerLieberman 03-19-2013 07:43 AM

GReddy makes awesome stuff. I ran their TD06 kit on my car for the better part of 5 years. No issues. The only thing i didn't like was the E-Manage piggyback ECU with it.

If the kit is a full turn key kit with ECU and FMIC, guarantee it will be more than $5,000

ft_sjo 03-19-2013 08:13 AM

The RRP is in the PDF above.


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