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dobbrz 03-04-2013 01:41 AM

Fortune Auto Coilovers - rears don't go very low?
 
Hey guys.
I was trying to lower the rear of my car the other day and it appears to me that I have maxed out my rear Fortune Auto 500 series coilovers...? and I am really not THAT low...I can post a few pics of my actual car later but in the mean time I was wondering if anybody running these coilovers had an issue with lowering the rear and what they might have done to fix it...
thanks in advance.

The rear coilover is on the right..and I have threaded the black body all the way through to the bottom as low as it can go..
ALSO:I have to double check but my lower mount (ie the bottom of the coilover on the right that is attatched to where the car bolts to the car) seems to be longer than the one in this picture and other pictures of fortune auto frs/brz coilovers?
http://external.enjukuracing.com/fortunefrs.jpg

OmarGC 03-04-2013 05:55 AM

Pics of your ride height

YDNA 03-04-2013 06:12 AM

they discussed this on their vendor thread that they werent really meant to go low. only reason why i didn't go with them sadly.

ebphoto 03-04-2013 01:00 PM

thats why i changed my order.. went with BC because the FA's mounts wouldnt allow the car to go low.

FT-86 SpeedFactory 03-04-2013 01:02 PM

Have you considered new rear LCA's?

Stance LCA's can give you another inch of drop when you add them to your system.

Just a thought!

dobbrz 03-04-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDNA (Post 770683)
they discussed this on their vendor thread that they werent really meant to go low. only reason why i didn't go with them sadly.

okay thanks! My ride height isn't really that bad..I maxed it out and I am still low but I just want to tuck some more tire. Thanks for the response.

dobbrz 03-04-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 771067)
Have you considered new rear LCA's?

Stance LCA's can give you another inch of drop when you add them to your system.

Just a thought!

I guess that is what I am going to have to do. I am happy with them other than the fact I want to go a bit lower. Thanks for the tip!
edit: damn 500 bucks for the lca's haha rough. I guess I should have done a bit more research before buying the FA's.

JPxM0Dz 03-04-2013 03:45 PM

I have the 510's, but have not installed yet. Don't imagine there will be much difference in height adjustment.

Please post a couple of pics for everyone and what did your total drop measure ?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 03-04-2013 03:53 PM

Need to see ride height pics.

We have these on our silver car and they go plenty low for motorsports use and a nice DD lowered stance.

We can go lower yet BTW. So I am really curious how low you are wanting to go.

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/021713-8.jpg

dobbrz 03-04-2013 04:04 PM

These were taken yesterday..they are just cell phone pics as I don't have a good camera
http://oi50.tinypic.com/1h9jjs.jpg
http://oi46.tinypic.com/281y912.jpg
http://oi48.tinypic.com/20l1f81.jpg

I don't know what the total drop is sry..

JPxM0Dz 03-04-2013 04:49 PM

^^^Looks awesome! Your a madman to drop any lower :eyebulge:

BRZ looks great :thumbsup:

dobbrz 03-04-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz (Post 771549)
^^^Looks awesome! Your a madman to drop any lower :eyebulge:

BRZ looks great :thumbsup:

Thanks man. I would Thank your post but I don't have 10 posts yet lol. and I want to go just like 3/4 an inch lower..nothing crazy as I still DD this but I am used to DDing much more aggressive setups and I still want this to be functional. I really just want a tiny bit lower and I want the option of going lower if I ever wanted to with a different setup. I don't like the feeling that I have already maxed out my coils either..

Wes 03-04-2013 11:44 PM

The stance would be perfect for me, but it does suck to know that you're maxed out, now I am reconsidering this, not that I want to slam my ride, but I like more room to adjust if I wanted.

Tansey86 03-04-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobbrz (Post 772395)
Thanks man. I would Thank your post but I don't have 10 posts yet lol. and I want to go just like 3/4 an inch lower..nothing crazy as I still DD this but I am used to DDing much more aggressive setups and I still want this to be functional. I really just want a tiny bit lower and I want the option of going lower if I ever wanted to with a different setup. I don't like the feeling that I have already maxed out my coils either..

Whats the wheel/tire setup? How do you like the Fortune Autos in a DD application?

JPxM0Dz 03-05-2013 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobbrz (Post 772395)
Thanks man. I would Thank your post but I don't have 10 posts yet lol. and I want to go just like 3/4 an inch lower..nothing crazy as I still DD this but I am used to DDing much more aggressive setups and I still want this to be functional. I really just want a tiny bit lower and I want the option of going lower if I ever wanted to with a different setup. I don't like the feeling that I have already maxed out my coils either..

Yeah looks great though. Did you install the coilovers yourself and how are you liking the ride so far ?

Sent from my Note 2 on Omega Rom

dobbrz 03-05-2013 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes (Post 772491)
The stance would be perfect for me, but it does suck to know that you're maxed out, now I am reconsidering this, not that I want to slam my ride, but I like more room to adjust if I wanted.

yeah man. there is still plenty of height adjustment in the front though and if I need to I will buy the stance LCA's for more rear height adjustment...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tansey86 (Post 772505)
Whats the wheel/tire setup? How do you like the Fortune Autos in a DD application?

Rims:
Varrstoen ES 18x9.5 +34

Tires:
225/40/18 in the front
235/40/18 in the back

And they work great for DD for me in Langley BC. I am good at dodging speedbumps and I know where all the terrible roads are :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz (Post 772562)
Yeah looks great though. Did you install the coilovers yourself and how are you liking the ride so far ?

Sent from my Note 2 on Omega Rom

No I did not install them myself but I could have pretty easily because it is not hard now that I have looked at them, adjusted them, and have become very familiar with them. The ride is good compared to my past experience with coilovers (BC racing, HSD, Raceland) Not really bouncy at all and decently comfortable on soft settings and stiff on the harder settings..Haven't had a single issue with them up until the rear height issue.

JPxM0Dz 03-05-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobbrz (Post 772944)
No I did not install them myself but I could have pretty easily because it is not hard now that I have looked at them, adjusted them, and have become very familiar with them. The ride is good compared to my past experience with coilovers (BC racing, HSD, Raceland) Not really bouncy at all and decently comfortable on soft settings and stiff on the harder settings..Haven't had a single issue with them up until the rear height issue.

Yeah I need to get my 510's installed soon :thumbsup:

Do you remember what spring rate you went with on your setup ?

dobbrz 03-05-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz (Post 773116)
Yeah I need to get my 510's installed soon :thumbsup:

Do you remember what spring rate you went with on your setup ?

I think 7k/7k or 6k/7k. I didn't specify and I got them on a black friday dealio thing so I didn't complain

JPxM0Dz 03-05-2013 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobbrz (Post 774325)
I think 7k/7k or 6k/7k. I didn't specify and I got them on a black friday dealio thing so I didn't complain


Yeah mine are 7k all around also

Wes 03-08-2013 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobbrz (Post 772944)
yeah man. there is still plenty of height adjustment in the front though and if I need to I will buy the stance LCA's for more rear height adjustment...


Yeah, but that means spending $500 more on top of coilovers when you get just get another set that can lower more without having to get them

dobbrz 03-08-2013 01:40 AM

That is correct. But if i want to switch coilovers i am going to have to sell for less than i bought them for and then order another set and wait until that gets in, pay shipping and duty fees to canada', and then in stall them, and i havent added amything to my car i just replaced coils. So might as well spend the 500 i would be losing in selling and rebuying new coils and add a new part to my car. Just makes sense

Xdragonxb0i 03-08-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobbrz (Post 779780)
That is correct. But if i want to switch coilovers i am going to have to sell for less than i bought them for and then order another set and wait until that gets in, pay shipping and duty fees to canada', and then in stall them, and i havent added amything to my car i just replaced coils. So might as well spend the 500 i would be losing in selling and rebuying new coils and add a new part to my car. Just makes sense

Let me know. I would be interested in buying them if u do sell

JordanWho 07-20-2014 12:24 AM

Just found this thread.

Currently looking at either 500's or 510's. I'm facing the same dilemma as you with ride height except I want to slam my car. Did you end up getting low set LCA's?

DIM 07-20-2014 12:45 AM

I've been eyeing these coil overs also, mainly because I saw great reviews of the great ride while be lowered. I just want to go low enough to get rid of the wheel gap.

dobbrz 07-20-2014 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JordanWho (Post 1855427)
Just found this thread.

Currently looking at either 500's or 510's. I'm facing the same dilemma as you with ride height except I want to slam my car. Did you end up getting low set LCA's?

Yes I ended up getting PBM lower arms. Cheapest ones at the time and I trust their reputation. Although they have got some surface rust pretty fast in the Canadian weather. I still would recommend them for the price

Squishy86 07-21-2014 12:06 AM

I'm lowered about an inch and a half and only have about a quarter of an inch of thread in the rear. If you're looking to slam your car, these are not the coils for you.

dobbrz 07-21-2014 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squishy86 (Post 1856554)
I'm lowered about an inch and a half and only have about a quarter of an inch of thread in the rear. If you're looking to slam your car, these are not the coils for you.

Unless you trust the brand and like the ride and features that they provide, just get rear lcas for a couple hundred and you can still run these and slam your car like myself. But yes, If your main intention is to just throw coilovers on the car and slam it and be done then look into other options as these aren't the lowest ones out there

MyEvilMonkeys 07-22-2014 10:55 AM

hmmmm, I wonder if Swift vs FA Spring are making a difference. I can easily tuck the rear tires on my FA500 with Swift springs. I had to raise mine up a bit cause I was catching ever damn speed bump in town even diagonally. You might not be able to get that squat/stance look and tuck the wheels with FA500. If thats what you are looking for, I would look elsewhere for coilovers cause i don't believe FA designed these coilovers for that purpose.

mwjcyber 07-27-2014 10:53 AM

I'm running FA500's, lowered 1.75" (44mm) square. I started with them bottomed to see my maximum drop, and then moved up from there for the visual drop I wanted, which was the top of the tire (225/40/18) flush with the fender; also knowing being lower would reduce clearance and affect my handling.

FA500 max lowering
- Front: ~3"
- Rear: ~2"

As FT86SpeedFactory stated, put lower rear LCAs like Stance, and you'll be dropped 3" square.


Disclaimer:
Once you go below 1.5" drop, be prepared to buy rear LCAs or camber bushings, Toe-Arms, and for you handing to be potentially degraded.

Great read on our cars suspension:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10643
"I've also found that 20mm drop is ideal for dynamic alignment (as designed), and 35mm still retaining pretty good alignment as well."

manualmotive 12-04-2014 02:57 PM

Sorry for this half-year bump, but has it been determined if the Swift spring upgrade sits lower than the FA springs?

SkAsphalt 12-05-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz (Post 771412)
I have the 510's, but have not installed yet. Don't imagine there will be much difference in height adjustment.

Please post a couple of pics for everyone and what did your total drop measure ?

Cough cough :laughabove:

JPxM0Dz 12-05-2014 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 2045804)
Cough cough :laughabove:


Someday! :lol:

sosick 05-10-2015 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 771425)
Need to see ride height pics.

We have these on our silver car and they go plenty low for motorsports use and a nice DD lowered stance.

We can go lower yet BTW. So I am really curious how low you are wanting to go.

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/021713-8.jpg

Wheel specs?

JonAvalon 05-10-2015 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sosick (Post 2243942)
Wheel specs?

I believe the one in the picture is when they ran them in 17x9 +35.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=99

They also did 18x9.5 setup.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=208

Bergen23 05-12-2015 12:23 AM

I have the DSG Special Edition 500's. The rears do not in fact go very low. It makes it even worse for me since I have a small sidewall on 17' wheels. Considered selling them and then buying the BC extreme lows, but that's totally not worth it. Rather just go the option of buying the Stance LCA's. For next year, looking at having a 18x9.75 set up so hopefully that'll fill in the rear tire gap in addition to having the Stance LCA's.

However, I can say that regardless of them not going as low as I'd have liked, they ride absolutely AMAZINGLY. My girlfriend rode in my car after I went from my previous coils to the FA 500's and she mentioned how "her girls were bouncing around less" and she didn't know that I changed suspension. So I think that speaks much more than anything I could possibly say about them.

BR-ZED 07-11-2018 02:29 AM

Just found this.

Put my rears on tonight. After the first try I found I was 1 inch higher than stock.... lowered it some, and now I'm back to STOCK ride height, but looks like I only have about an inch more that I can lower before I'm maxed out...

Something seems seriously wrong... thoughts? These pics are at stock ride height, about 26.5" from the ground to the fender.

This is with SPC LCAs and 9k swift springs.

https://i.imgur.com/axOgnPv_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium

https://i.imgur.com/ooFe0NA_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium


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