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chenshuo 03-03-2013 03:57 PM

Is there a way to turn on climate control without the AC being on?
 
I couldn't find in the manual explaining this nor on other posts.

I have a limited BRZ with auto climate control. I find that everytime i turn on the climate control, the AC is automatically turned on. I do not have Auto set to on. I do not have AC set to on. I do not have front defogger turned to on. Even when i set the direction of the air to blow at my feet and set the AC off. The next time I turn on the car and turn on climate control the AC turns back on again. How can i have AC not turn on everytime?

brzadrian 03-03-2013 04:04 PM

change the temperature to 80 or on HI

BRZfan 03-03-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brzadrian (Post 769623)
change the temperature to 80 or on HI

EXACTLY!

One cannot have "climate control" without both heating AND cooling. Anything different defeats the logic. Or, maybe, just turn it off - although I do not know for sure this can be done since I didn't get a Limited with all the 'robotic' controlling..

sierra 03-03-2013 06:10 PM

Just turn it off.
If it says 'auto' it's on, adjust the fan speed and it turns off as you over ride it.
It will be off when you start next time. Don't forget to press the switch to cancel recirculate.

chenshuo 03-03-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sierra (Post 769755)
Just turn it off.
If it says 'auto' it's on, adjust the fan speed and it turns off as you over ride it.
It will be off when you start next time. Don't forget to press the switch to cancel recirculate.

my auto is not on. I made sure everything is turned off. Then next time i drive the car when i turn on to get hot air (turn on by rotate the center dial) then the AC automatically turns on.

sierra 03-03-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 769770)
my auto is not on. I made sure everything is turned off. Then next time i drive the car when i turn on to get hot air (turn on by rotate the center dial) then the AC automatically turns on.

I'll check mine now.

The centre dial adjusts the fan speed and where the air goes. It can only turn the auto off on mine, to turn the auto on I have to press the auto button next to it.
I can run everything manually or on auto, the only glitch in the system is that auto doesn't let you decide where the air goes using the centre dial. Perhaps that is on auto sensors too?
If you turn the temp to max it will be heat full on.

colHolm 03-03-2013 07:07 PM

What vent setting do you have it on? Is it one that defogs the front windshield? If so, it will turn on the AC.

jmaryt 03-03-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 769770)
my auto is not on. I made sure everything is turned off. Then next time i drive the car when i turn on to get hot air (turn on by rotate the center dial) then the AC automatically turns on.

eh! he! he! this is sooo gotdamn useful, especially in a car with a cabin the size of a child's toy box. just sayin'

chenshuo 03-03-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by colHolm (Post 769830)
What vent setting do you have it on? Is it one that defogs the front windshield? If so, it will turn on the AC.

i Have the air blowing my feet only.

BRZnut 03-03-2013 08:18 PM

You have the duel system right? On mine, I hit auto and then turn the AC off but don't touch anything else but the temp setting. AC light stays off, even when I start the car the next day.

Subie 03-03-2013 08:43 PM

I don't think there's a way to do it. I always turn off the A/C after turning on the climate control when driving around town so my car has some extra pep it in its step.

Turbowned 03-03-2013 09:22 PM

Are you sure the A/C being on is actually doing anything? I was under the impression that the compressor does not kick on unless the cabin temp is higher than what the unit is set to. Otherwise it just acts as a dehumidifier.

Huehuecoyotl 03-03-2013 09:56 PM

it dehumidifies using the compressor, so ac is on

chenshuo 03-03-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 770055)
Are you sure the A/C being on is actually doing anything? I was under the impression that the compressor does not kick on unless the cabin temp is higher than what the unit is set to. Otherwise it just acts as a dehumidifier.

no i'm not sure if it's doing anything, but the fact that the little green light is on for the AC bothers me.

Burrcold 03-03-2013 10:10 PM

Mine doesn't do that. Make sure you keep auto off, then manually turn off the a/c and adjust the temp and air direction with the knobs. Once you have it set, turn the car off and back on again. The a/c should not come on and your previous settings should still be there.

Turbowned 03-03-2013 11:42 PM

I could be wrong, but that's how auto climate control was explained to me when I was trained on it for Audi cars. I would assume it's similar for this system.

jmaryt 03-04-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl (Post 770127)
it dehumidifies using the compressor, so ac is on

+1

Draco-REX 03-04-2013 08:49 AM

Push the Auto button, then push the A/C button. Done.

chenshuo 03-04-2013 08:58 AM

is it bad when the AC turns on and you turn it off right away?

sierra 03-04-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 770794)
is it bad when the AC turns on and you turn it off right away?

No. It works by turning on and off all the time.

chenshuo 03-04-2013 09:03 AM

ok that what i'm gonna do then. whenever that AC turns on i'm gonna shut it off right away, as quick as a ninja. although some of you don't have the AC on automatically for every setting, then i guess i'm probably doing something wrong. i'll play around with it more. thanks guys

Turbowned 03-04-2013 09:45 AM

If all else fails, RTFM! lol


Oh, except you already did. Dammit.

Marcoscrdo 03-04-2013 11:48 AM

What thing i always thought about and maybe it happens to you guys too not just the BRZ, BUT how come when all a/c climate control etc is all turned off -> no air, while driving depending on how fast you go hot air still goes through?

chenshuo 03-04-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcoscrdo (Post 771038)
What thing i always thought about and maybe it happens to you guys too not just the BRZ, BUT how come when all a/c climate control etc is all turned off -> no air, while driving depending on how fast you go hot air still goes through?

that's normal. it happens with any car. if you dont want the hot air coming into the car, press the "Recirculate" button. it'll turn off all the vents in the car and you won't get any air coming in.

WolfpackS2k 03-04-2013 01:16 PM

The A/C thing really bothers me as well. Especially given that it is currently winter time. I would greatly prefer if the car was smarter about the AC operation, like if it took the outside air temperature into consideration when operating.

I don't care if my interior temp is set to 65. If its 25 degrees outside the AC shouldn't turn on!!!

Dorb 03-04-2013 01:27 PM

My AC comes on every time also. Drives me crazy, though maybe I was doing something wrong, but now I feel better about it.

Marcoscrdo 03-04-2013 05:31 PM

Yeah ive been trying to sometimes put a/c on and its still hot air. Its just not as hot as with the a/c button off.

Brzetto 03-04-2013 08:15 PM

Subaru should have the ability to customize set the air system so the AC doesn't come on unless the button is pushed. A true automatic system should work both ways, fully manual or auto.

sierra 03-04-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited (Post 772103)
Subaru should have the ability to customize set the air system so the AC doesn't come on unless the button is pushed. A true automatic system should work both ways, fully manual or auto.

This might be a BRZ problem because my GTS86 works fine apart from selecting the direction the airflow will take and that might be for the best on auto?

Burrcold 03-04-2013 08:25 PM

My BRZ limited does not do this either, so you guys are obviously doing something wrong or there is something wrong with the car.

Brzetto 03-04-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sierra (Post 772140)
This might be a BRZ problem because my GTS86 works fine apart from selecting the direction the airflow will take and that might be for the best on auto?

I can select the direction and what not just fine, my only gripe is the automated A/C activation. I will eventually figure out how to defeat it. I would play with the air system a little more if it would stop snowing and raining on a weekly basis since my car is covered.

sierra 03-04-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited (Post 772155)
I can select the direction and what not just fine, my only gripe is the automated A/C activation. I will eventually figure out how to defeat it. I would play with the air system a little more if it would stop snowing and raining on a weekly basis since my car is covered.

Perhaps it's a setting option the dealer can change through the ECU?

Brzetto 03-04-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sierra (Post 772184)
Perhaps it's a setting option the dealer can change through the ECU?

That's possible or there is some secret setting an owner can discover.

sierra 03-04-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited (Post 772197)
That's possible or there is some secret setting an owner can discover.

Like holding a switch down for 3 seconds?

Brzetto 03-04-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sierra (Post 772215)
Like holding a switch down for 3 seconds?

Yeah maybe. I won't guarantee anything though but it never hurts to explore that.

Dorb 03-04-2013 09:10 PM

I agree, I just don't drive it much in the winter months to find out. Just have noticed it the few times I have been able too. Spring is coming. Woot!

chenshuo 03-11-2013 09:52 PM

i have played with every single air blowing mode and the AC turns on every freaking time... sigh...

for those of you who don't have the AC automatically turn on everytime you turn on the air, do you select the mode first and then switch the dial, or switch the dial then the mode?

Khazzy 03-11-2013 10:17 PM

I turn my car on, every time, and the AC does not automatically come on. It has my previous settings from the last time I drove. I think there is something wrong with your Climate Control. And yes I have a Limited BRZ.

BMWDavid 03-11-2013 10:22 PM

OK here is what I've seen with my BRZ Limited.

Full Auto...a/c light will be on. If needed a/c compressor will kick in to cool off cabin. If really warm the recirc light will come on but then turn off once temp is maintained at setting.

When outside temps fall below 32* F the a/c light will turn off. I guess this way the cmpressor won't turn on. Once outside temp raises to 32*F and above the a/c light will come back on. Mind you that this is with the full auto setting.

At any time you can switch off the a/c light manually. This turns off the full auto icon. On my car the a/c light will stay off when turning car off and then restarting. The a/c will never come on by itself in the manual mode.

I know this sounds confusing...

chenshuo 03-11-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Khazzy (Post 787451)
I turn my car on, every time, and the AC does not automatically come on. It has my previous settings from the last time I drove. I think there is something wrong with your Climate Control. And yes I have a Limited BRZ.

no i didn't say that the AC turns on when my car is on, i mean when i turn the fan speed dial then the AC turns on, everytime.


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