Takeda exhaust rusting...UPDATE P.4
 

Hi guys,

My Takeda exhaust is rusting! I received it in December and it is now rusted quite hard....also, I think there is a loss :(. I'll to a garage asap to find out, but just want to know if you guys had bad experiences with Takeda exhaust or products?

Thank you!

Do you have pictures yet? Are we talking about surface rust or there's a hole in it or a weld is falling apart?

This is why I buy USA made products from Perrin and Nameless.... I did buy the aFe Intake though which was nice, but I like my Perrin more. I don't trust the overseas companies on exhausts unless it is an Amuse.

@Jive Turkey posted a picture of his GReddy Evo3...looked nasty. Mild steel, woot! :lol:

This makes me want to check my SRT.

LOL I saw that too - wasn't sure if it was rust or dirt. If rust, not sure where he got all that iron deposit, I swear it was clean when I sold it to him!

OP - can you throw up some pics? Also, what do you mean you think there's a loss?

I'll take pictures when I'll go to the garage.....I'll keep you posted :)

Yeah, but this was agift from my husband lol....he relly make a lot of searches on the different types of exhaust and thought this one was the best for the sound (I didn't want something too loud) and its conception.

I don,t think Takeda is a bad company and I hope they will do something.....shit can hapen, I just want to make sure it is not all their exhausts :)

This being said, the Nameless exhaust is relly nice!

Yeah, depending on what Takeda does about it should be your deciding factor. Hopefully they take care of you and replace it. If not, give you a refund and buy a Nameless Off-set axleback which isn't very loud and pocket some of the refund at the same time while you get an extremely high quality axleback built. Not saying it is rust proof, but it sure will outlast most of the overseas exhausts in terms of rust.

picture of the rusted area?

By the way, the Takeda exhaust is designed and made in California.

OP again - if it's just surface rust, get yourself some Stainless Steel cleaner or some other mild cleanser and a soft sponge, should be able to buff that right out. I've used Bar Keepers Friend on my stainless weber grill that gets surface rust from sitting outside all year long and it's worked well.

+1 for barkeeper's friend. It removes discoloration and grime from stainless better than anything I've used.

This is for cookware, but there's no reason it wouldn't work the same miracles here. Much safer than using scotchbrite on a polished surface.

Legitimate stainless (304 and 316) should last forever in water, but enough salt + time will leave it pitted. Considering it's currently 25-40 deg F in Belgium, I'm going to guess you have seen some snow this winter and that they salted the roads (not the case everywhere).

really hope they won,t say "We can't do nothing..."

As I say before, I'll take picture this week :)

Good! Thank you!

Wrong Saint-Hubert I think - Quebec if I'm not mistaken. That said, your temperature range still holds true.

Oh, I'll just speak some Canadian then. "Sorry, eh!"

Wife is a Belgian, so it's easy to forget aboot our poutine-eating brothers to the north. mmmm... poutine. :drool:
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Time to change husband Trish, I would have bought you a Perrin like I did for mine. hahahaha

HAHAHAHA! St-Hubert is in Quebec, Canada, but the temperature is pretty much the same (-15/-20 and we have received around 40-60cm of snow since the begining of winter)

HAHAHAHAH ;)

MMM poutine. Name rhymes with something else I really like. :eyebulge:

Funny though, I have lived in Canada my entire life and I swear the "aboot" thing was totally made up so there could be something quirky to stereotype Canadians for comedic purpose. I have seriously NEVER hear anyone with that accent. We almost all speak with the exact English dialect that newscasters on any major US network use. I'd call it North American "neutral" since by most people's standards it isn't a regional dialect but the universally accepted dialect for media, etc... probably the second most standard English accent next to the Brits.

Here is the typical Canadian accent I hear:

(spoken by 2 hosers in lumber jackets in Muskoka Ontario) " Yup, me and Doug seen you up at the beer store this mornin'. Gonna be up at the cotteege this weekend, eh? Like I said, goin' up to the coteege, eh. "

I have a concern question for all aftermarket Exhausts out there. How it handle the water from the water hose wash and rain water coming to the outlet tips? Those low pipes down there must need drain holes for water to escape otherwise it will be all rusty ! :)

Goin to check my srt as soon as I can. Was under the car couple mo ths ago and didn't notice anything but with this and the evo 3 I better check again

My SRT is all good. Saw the pipes in their shop when I went to pick mine up and they had stainless stamped right on them, tips too.

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[QUOTE=White64Goat;759637]My SRT is all good. Saw the pipes in their shop when I went to pick mine up and they had stainless stamped right on them, tips too.
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Man, your SRT really look good as what it supposed to call stainless steel. :)

I've noticed this too.

My first Takeda exhaust rusted pretty bad after 3 weeks on the car. That one was sent back under warranty for a fitment issue (left side tip about 2" further out than the right side) and the replacement one started to develop the same surface rust after about a month.

I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't for the one long outlet pipe that snakes around from the passenger side.

I plan on buying one of the "diffuser" knockoffs showing up now to help hide it for now. I plan on looking at the new nameless setup as a later replacement.

It's a shame, because I love the way it sounds.

There's a bunch of water spots on the cans in that picture. Here's a couple more:

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Here a picture TWM took while they had the car.....srs....:( it is NOT normal.....

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Ouch, that's supposed to be 304 Stainless Steel all the way through the pipe, right? If so, it looks like it's badly contaminated. Hit a spot with a non-abrasive sponge and some cleanser on it, just to see if it comes off.

You guys use salt on the roads up there to melt ice?

EDIT: I'm not exactly sure, but the marketing material for the Takeda exhaust only indicate using 304SS for the tips. This probably means they're using 409SS or worse for the rest of the system. 400-series stainless with a lot of road salt will definitely end up with rust over time. 300-series stainless should not, unless it's contaminated with some iron on the surface which you can clean off.

You're correct. My tips are fine (if heavily blackened with carbon). The rest of the piping is fairly rusted and they've salted the hell out of the roads in the Northeastern US this winter.

yeah, my tips are fine too.....JESUS....:( I WANT TO CRY :brokenheart:

Takeda just answered me.

They tell it's "normal" as they use stainless 409 (or an other way to say cheap stainless?). They suggest me to clean this mess myself.

As for the loss, if it is diagnostized, they will replace the parts that will need to be replace, that's all.

I'll try to contact them myself again to argue with them, but I think I will get stuck with a rusty exhaust.

:mad0260:

Thanks for the pictures.
It certainly helps me to narrow down my choice for an exhaust.

Good luck with contacting them again. Hopefully you get a satisfactory resolution.

My info was wrong, sorry!

"Designed by Perrin in Oregon" sticker not included?

Wow. That is alot more rust than I expected. Scotchbrite is the correct tool for this job.

LINK - couldn't find less than a 20 pack, but the maroon (fine) or gray (coarse) styles do a great job on stainless.

See below.

What a shitty exhaust, the stock one on my car has almost no rust and I went through a lot of salty roads here also since november. Not impressed at all.

Dang I almost got the Takeda exhaust, too, to go with my Takeda intake. I think if you clean it a bit then maybe spray some rust neutralizer that converts the rust into a firm material you'll be good. But I'd confirm with someone who knows if that's safe on an exhaust which needs to expel heat. I'm not too familiar with automotive rust lol because I haven't lived in a cold winter area til this past year.

Skip to the 4:00 minute mark to see where I got this idea:
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IMO only the tips really matter for aesthetics and yours are still good. Exhausts are wear items anyway and start deteriorating the moment you start using them. Plus your rust probably matches other spots in our under body that I've seen rust even when not in winter weather. If your exhaust still sounds good, breathes good, and isn't rusted through the inside then you should be fine for awhile.

I wonder, if I clean the rust, will it appear again in a few month?

I take back the statement. Check out this link: MATERIAL SPECS

They suggest that the surface coating will happen in normal air, and a light rust will protect against further corrosion. Seems like you should not remove the rust, but rather just deal with the finish.

I don't like that answer, but a few other sources say similar things.

Borla uses 304, I've seen some pricey systems use titanium. Cheap exhaust is aluminized steel. This is the first I've ever heard of 409, but apparently it's the go-to material for exhausts because it's inexpensive, relatively corrosion resistant, and weldable.

Ouch to the response you got

Hope for the best

Based on @Shankenstein's finding, I take back what I said about cleaning it off and spraying rust neutralizer.

the SRT exhaust is stainless steal. mine sat around in constantly melting and the freezing snow all winter. Exhaust is still solid. I will check it this week and confirm with you but a few days ago it looked great.