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Itssrayyxd 02-26-2013 01:54 AM

Tein S. Tech Lowering Springs
 
I am very interested in buying these lowering springs because the wheel spacing is ridiculous in my opinion. Of course these will only be temporary until I finish the stuff I want to get. (Hid/led lights, spoiler, vinyl wrap lip, etc. )

Anyways, the point is that this is my first car. I don't know much about lowering. I read all about dampers and cambers and such and I don't know what these mean. I'm in no way, shape, or form a car guy. So if anyone will be kind enough to educate me on this would be very helpful. Please make it as easy to understand as possible because I am a novice when it comes to modifications.

Some simple questions I would like to get answered also is that:
What do I need to do in order to install these springs? Do I have to buy something separate from the springs in or see to install? (I will be going to y local Autoshops to get them installed). Because I thought you just replace the springs and you're done.

For those who already have these installed, how is the driving? Do I have to angle every dip, bump, and driveway with these installed?

And lastly, how long are they going to last before my shocks are worn out?

Sorry for such novice questions, but I want to know every single detail before I buy and get them installed.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to read this!

-Raymond

Racecomp Engineering 02-26-2013 11:21 AM

Tein S-techs are known for blowing shocks in the Subaru world due to being too low. Even before the shocks blow, you're sacrificing ride quality and handling for looks. They are a "style" spring and they don't try to hide that fact (it's the S in s-tech). If style is your priority they are a fine choice but there are many other better performing options.

You don't need anything else to install the springs. I do recommend the OEM front camber bolts simply because they're super cheap and will make a noticeable difference in handling. With a drop as big as the S-techs you'll want either rear control arms to adjust rear camber or the less expensive but more difficult to install/adjust Whiteline rear camber bushings. That's not needed for medium/mild drop springs though it can be nice to have.

- Andrew

JoeBoxer 02-26-2013 11:31 AM

Get the H Techs instead or the RCE Yellows, Eibach Pro-Kit, or Swift BRZ springs.

I have the H Techs and haven't had any problems out of them but the S-Tech isn't really a good choice for this car imo.

f0rge 02-26-2013 11:42 AM

it you want low then the eibach sportlines are also nice, plus they also come with new bumpstops so you dont have to cut the stock ones.

i've had many lowered cars in my day, the only reason you need to angle is so you dont scrape, i dont really see this being a problem for the FR-S on anything but the most retarded driveways.

the stock ride IMO is pretty bad, i've heard that aftermarket springs don't do anything worse, some even improve to an extent.

Itssrayyxd 02-26-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 758179)
Tein S-techs are known for blowing shocks in the Subaru world due to being too low. Even before the shocks blow, you're sacrificing ride quality and handling for looks. They are a "style" spring and they don't try to hide that fact (it's the S in s-tech). If style is your priority they are a fine choice but there are many other better performing options.

You don't need anything else to install the springs. I do recommend the OEM front camber bolts simply because they're super cheap and will make a noticeable difference in handling. With a drop as big as the S-techs you'll want either rear control arms to adjust rear camber or the less expensive but more difficult to install/adjust Whiteline rear camber bushings. That's not needed for medium/mild drop springs though it can be nice to have.

- Andrew

Ahhhh. I didn't know that! Thanks for giving me a heads up!

As for the Eibachs, which would be better? Pro kit or sportsline? I don't mind angling, but I don't want to scrape really bad if I don't angle enough. And my area has bad pavement and potholes, And I don't want to ruin the car going through these roads.

All recommendations and advice is greatly appreciated!

Racecomp Engineering 02-26-2013 01:03 PM

The Prokit is more of a medium drop, while Sportlines are a bigger drop. The Sportlines are too low IMO for performance but if you do really want a big drop they're the best choice. For a medium drop the Pro-kits are a good choice.

We have our own RCE Yellow springs, which are a medium/mild drop with a focus on performance/ride/function first. There are some pics in our build thread and facebook page. Our springs and Eibachs are the only ones that come with replacement bumpstops.

- Andrew

Itssrayyxd 02-26-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 758428)
The Prokit is more of a medium drop, while Sportlines are a bigger drop. The Sportlines are too low IMO for performance but if you do really want a big drop they're the best choice. For a medium drop the Pro-kits are a good choice.

We have our own RCE Yellow springs, which are a medium/mild drop with a focus on performance/ride/function first. There are some pics in our build thread and facebook page. Our springs and Eibachs are the only ones that come with replacement bumpstops.

- Andrew

Well my car is my DD. it's my only car. I want to lower it to get rid of the wheel spacing (still have stock wheels and tires) but not too low to the point where I scratch everything. What would you recommend from what I seem to be looking for?

wu_dot_com 02-26-2013 01:25 PM

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Itssrayyxd 02-26-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wu_dot_com (Post 758484)
Buyers beware.

I have a very bad experience with the integrity of those who works for Tein for the development of S-tech.

if you are up for some light reading, i have documented in the thd below.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484&page=10

now I've been riding on Tein for over 6 month, i can say that i do not enjoy the ride at all.

the springs is overly harsh when going over bumps. it limits the full suspension travels which results in lift off between tires and the road when i hit a bump. i have to ask my passenger to exit the car just so i can clear some bumps in a parking situation many times.

as soon as i have some time, i will throw back the stock springs.

btw the tein springs will drop your car low enough where you will scratch at even some mild speed pump or regular driveway.

go Racecomp if you can, they are good people who actually knows their stuff well.

Oh man. I just read your post. Man that sucks. I'm probably going to go with the Eibachs. But I'm not sure which one i want. Probably make a new thread about the Eibachs and get more information from fellow members.

JoeBoxer 02-26-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itssrayyxd (Post 758510)
Oh man. I just read your post. Man that sucks. I'm probably going to go with the Eibachs. But I'm not sure which one i want. Probably make a new thread about the Eibachs and get more information from fellow members.

No need to make a new thread just do a search they have been discussed and @Dave-ROR has a review thread also.

Itssrayyxd 02-26-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 758515)
No need to make a new thread just do a search they have been discussed and @Dave-ROR has a review thread also.

Awesome! Thanks.

Racecomp Engineering 02-26-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itssrayyxd (Post 758470)
Well my car is my DD. it's my only car. I want to lower it to get rid of the wheel spacing (still have stock wheels and tires) but not too low to the point where I scratch everything. What would you recommend from what I seem to be looking for?

If you really want a big drop, go with Sportlines....although if your roads aren't so great I'd avoid them as it's too much of a drop IMO.

Eibach Pro-kit is a medium drop of a 25mm (1 inch) and our RCE Yellow is a mild/medium 20mm drop.

Less of a drop is better for ride quality and function. I think our RCE Yellows and the Eibach Pro-Kit look really good. Classy and tasteful.

Eibach makes our RCE Yellow springs btw. :)

- Andrew

Itssrayyxd 02-26-2013 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 758707)
If you really want a big drop, go with Sportlines....although if your roads aren't so great I'd avoid them as it's too much of a drop IMO.

Eibach Pro-kit is a medium drop of a 25mm (1 inch) and our RCE Yellow is a mild/medium 20mm drop.

Less of a drop is better for ride quality and function. I think our RCE Yellows and the Eibach Pro-Kit look really good. Classy and tasteful.

Eibach makes our RCE Yellow springs btw. :)

- Andrew

Do you have pictures of all three? Lol all I see are pictures if springs itself

Racecomp Engineering 02-26-2013 05:24 PM

3 pics of our RCE Yellow springs:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...59566195_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...64263455_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...36637203_n.jpg
We might have a few pics with stock wheels on our facebook.


Dave-ROR has a thread on the Sportlines here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11093

Here's a thread with pics of the Pro-kits:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11093

- Andrew

Mikeez 10-14-2015 12:34 AM

I was reading this post and y'all got me scared to install my springs lol. I know springs ruing the struts, but is it that bad? Is it true that my shocks will blow after 4000+ miles driving lol??

cywinr 01-13-2020 06:58 PM

Just adding my review of these springs without opening a new thread. When I first bought my BRZ, I wanted to go lower but didn't want the brand new stock struts to go to waste. Figured I'd get coils when they inevitably blow.

Fast-forward 5 years and 40k miles, I'm still running my original stock struts with the S-Tech springs. This setup has been through several autocross events, winter mountains, a track day, and daily commutes. I also had a mandatory inspection done recently with no issues.

The ride is terrible. Any large bump in the road feels like i'm hitting a pothole. Hitting a pothole feels like hitting a curb.

On stock tires or winter tires, the car slides even easier than normal. The stiff suspension overpowers the tires and there is no grip.

On performance tires (RE71R), the car is very grippy and has almost no body roll. I guess the sticky tires is able to handle the stiffness. Car remains easy to control.

Obviously, I can't comment or compare these to a set of coilovers or any other spring/strut setup. This is just my thoughts from my limited experience.


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