Originally Posted by Umbie (Post 746791)

Fortunately, it was a pre-production model out for testing. It likely would have been destroyed after it served its purpose anyway.

Out of curiosity, what do you guys think of the new 'Vette? I was skeptical at first, but the more I see it the more I like it. I will wait until I see it in person to decide if it is truly worthy bearing the Stingray name.

Originally Posted by mikalem (Post 746875)

Saw it in person up in Detroit - car is great looking, til you get to the rear end. Then it gets way too busy.... Additional pics to show what I mean (Towards the middle of the album):

https://plus.google.com/photos/10476...36972159204913

Originally Posted by LivingLegend (Post 746855)

I like the front but both the vette and viper looks more like a ferrari. I'm still debating if I like the back. The tail lights is whats throwing me off.

Originally Posted by mikalem (Post 746875)

Saw it in person up in Detroit - car is great looking, til you get to the rear end. Then it gets way too busy.... Additional pics to show what I mean (Towards the middle of the album):

https://plus.google.com/photos/10476...36972159204913

Originally Posted by pcasso87 (Post 748212)

Silly Muscle cars, twisty switchbacks are not for you..



Flame suit on.....

Originally Posted by pcasso87 (Post 748212)

Silly Muscle cars, twisty switchbacks are not for you..



Flame suit on.....

Originally Posted by SVTSHC (Post 750586)

:sigh:Dude... that's a Vette you're talking about :slap:. I hope you were trollin'





But anyway, this is a travesty =/. I hope the driver is okay; knowing that this was a pre-pred and it would have been destroyed anyway brings me some comfort.

Originally Posted by cruzinbill (Post 752729)

Exactly, the vette is one of the worst designed cars since the corvair. The driver prolly tried to take a 45mph corner at 20mph and lost total control. Dont get me started on its cheap half assed interior that has no place on a 90k$ car.

Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 752760)

Have you ever driven a Corvair?

Originally Posted by cruzinbill (Post 752770)

Driven no, rode in yes. I may be a lil off on the comparison but cmon ofcourse they have improved the corvette some since the corvair went away like 40 years ago.

Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 752778)

1st Gen or 2nd Gen?

The problem with the Corvair was the suspension geometry, since rear independent suspension at a time was a very new thing, Chevy simply didn't know how it would react in oversteer situations.


Simply you had a problem where the car would display snap oversteer when pushed to the limit, sort of like a certain model of the Toyata MR2 displayed (whole other reason on that car though)

So in the end, tons of 1 st Gen Corvairs were wrapped around trees, all over the country. :lol:

But they gladly fixed it with the 2nd Gen model with a whole new suspension geometry (new front sway bar and some other things if i'm correct), and the car is fairly important because it broke the mold for many future sport cars. (Independent suspension, back engine which influenced some mid engine sport car designs, Porsche stole a few things as well, well rumored too)

Read Unsafe at Any Speed: The Designed-In Dangers of the American Automobile

Oh and there was also the fact that the tires would have different PSI ratings then most cars did, i believe the front tires had higher PSI then the back tires, so when gas stations attendants checked your tire pressure (Good ol' days!), they always put it to a certain PSI (35 to every car?) so it really fucked up the geometry since the PSI's were both the same when they weren't post to be.

That sounds about right.

Originally Posted by cruzinbill (Post 752800)

While your points may be valid idk... What I can say is that if Ralph Nader were to drive the above Vette, he would be able to write a new book titled "More Unsafe at Any Speed: The Costcutting Dangers of the Discusting Modern American Automobile" The book would go on to sell trillions of copies. I could even see it raising such a stir that the government would put a ban on the creation of another Corvette.

I mean these things are such death traps that studies have shown more fatalities per year from them than from that of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms combined.

Originally Posted by mikalem (Post 746875)

Saw it in person up in Detroit - car is great looking, til you get to the rear end. Then it gets way too busy.... Additional pics to show what I mean (Towards the middle of the album):

https://plus.google.com/photos/10476...36972159204913

Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 753530)

Methinks some people are trolling. Or they don't realize that the C4 '84-'88 Vette that was considered "dangerous" was because they were fast, and drivers are idiots.

Here's what the Chevrolet spokesperson said:

Originally Posted by cruzinbill (Post 754101)

Well this is the OT lol, but I do actually think they have terrible interiors and are overpriced for what you get.


Also an 84 had a 0-60 of like 6.6 ours is like 6.2.... so it wasnt that fast of a car.

Originally Posted by cruzinbill (Post 752729)

Exactly, the vette is one of the worst designed cars since the corvair. The driver prolly tried to take a 45mph corner at 20mph and lost total control. Dont get me started on its cheap half assed interior that has no place on a 90k$ car.