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HillCountryGuru 02-19-2013 11:56 AM

Installation of Perrin exhaust system.
 
This isn't actually about the installation itself but some technicality I ran into. Firstly I live in Texas, I have been calling shops because I don't own a lift yet and they are telling me they can't install the new front pipe because I need 80k miles for it to be legal. Does this mean I am going to have to find someone to do it that is not a business?

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HillCountryGuru 02-19-2013 11:58 AM

Or should I go in and intentionally ruin the current converter to make it legal to put the new one on lol..

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Pete 02-19-2013 12:04 PM

I had no problems going through Phastek in Houston, in fact they are putting in my front pipe (and other stuff) right now.

Ranatsu 02-19-2013 12:06 PM

You don't need a lift. Just a jack and some stands, or even ramps.

Have you asked anyone in the Austin thread for help? I'm sure someone has the tools and very basic skills needed to do this install.

HillCountryGuru 02-19-2013 12:14 PM

My friend knows how, just no stands I guess it wouldn't be too pricy to just buy some stands.. probably cheaper than an install..

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Ranatsu 02-19-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HillCountryGuru (Post 744110)
My friend knows how, just no stands I guess it wouldn't be too pricy to just buy some stands.. probably cheaper than an install..

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Much cheaper. Years ago when I lived in an apartment I just backed my car up onto the curb and put wheel chocks down and changed my catback that way.

lol so so ghetto...

FR-S Matt 02-19-2013 12:36 PM

I bought 4 nice jackstands 13.99 for two on sale at Harbor Freight and a 2.5 ton low profile jack from there as well for 79.99 with 20% off of that. They work nicely and have the pinch on the tops to match the pinch welds.

WWEVOX 02-19-2013 01:04 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think BRZ club did the front pipe install and needed to lift the motor to swap the pipe?

I'm debating whether to do it myself because I'm not fond of pushing the motor up while its sitting on stands.

Vukodlac 02-19-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WWEVOX (Post 744250)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think BRZ club did the front pipe install and needed to lift the motor to swap the pipe?

I'm debating whether to do it myself because I'm not fond of pushing the motor up while its sitting on stands.

You dont need to jack up the motor. Remove the front pipe, that way you have room to mess with the overpipe. What I did then was remove the nuts from the header to overpipe. Then I manipulated the overpipe and took the heat shield apart, then twisted the overpipe to get it out.

It takes some patience but can be easily done. Then install your new overpipe, then new front pipe. Easy peasy, just use new gaskets or you'll leak.

mla163 02-19-2013 01:35 PM

You can do it yourself. I did a catback in about an hour on ramps. Just buy some crappy jackstands so you don't die. It's not like they ever go bad, just buy some.

Foobar 02-19-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HillCountryGuru (Post 744074)
This isn't actually about the installation itself but some technicality I ran into. Firstly I live in Texas, I have been calling shops because I don't own a lift yet and they are telling me they can't install the new front pipe because I need 80k miles for it to be legal. Does this mean I am going to have to find someone to do it that is not a business?

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Isn't the primary cat for our car in the header? If so, shouldn't it be emissions legal to replace the front pipe then?

stilletto 02-19-2013 02:47 PM

Roll up on some ramps, then jack up the rear end, and slide some jack stands underneath. Should take a noob an afternoon. No biggie.

SaiBorg 02-19-2013 02:54 PM

Sears is having a sale on craftsman jack stands. I bought myself a set last night and went to pick them up this morning!

FR-S Matt 02-19-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SaiBorg (Post 744501)
Sears is having a sale on craftsman jack stands. I bought myself a set last night and went to pick them up this morning!

Missed a hell of a deal on the 13.99 Harbor Freight ones.

SaiBorg 02-19-2013 03:22 PM

My father buys tools from there. He uses them a few times and toss it out and end up borrowing my tools...

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Ranatsu 02-19-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 744453)
Isn't the primary cat for our car in the header? If so, shouldn't it be emissions legal to replace the front pipe then?

You technically aren't allowed to tamper with any of them.

Foobar 02-19-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SaiBorg (Post 744567)
My father buys tools from there. He uses them a few times and toss it out and end up borrowing my tools...

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The HF Jackstands are perfectly fine and priced well.

I wouldn't invest in a full set of their socket wrenches, but hey, there are a lot of things that lifetime warranty type quality isn't necessary for.

I've got Craftsman socket tools and Dewalt Power tools that I paid good money for, but jackstands and screwdrivers and other miscellaneous nick knacks? Harbor Freight.

HillCountryGuru 02-19-2013 03:54 PM

I have a friend who is gonna let me use his stands.. Is having the new Perrin pipes gonna restrict me from passing inspection?

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husker741 02-19-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vukodlac (Post 744302)
You dont need to jack up the motor. Remove the front pipe, that way you have room to mess with the overpipe. What I did then was remove the nuts from the header to overpipe. Then I manipulated the overpipe and took the heat shield apart, then twisted the overpipe to get it out.

It takes some patience but can be easily done. Then install your new overpipe, then new front pipe. Easy peasy, just use new gaskets or you'll leak.

Do gaskets come with ordered parts? Or do I need to get them myself?

FR-S Matt 02-19-2013 04:02 PM

Harbor Freight has a lifetime warranty on their torque wrenches, lol. For 12.99, I couldn't pass up a 3/8 click type.

All of the rest of my tools like my sockets, ratchets and extensions are all Craftsman. I don't trust some of their tools at all, but the jack stands are heavy and the 2.5 ton low profile jack is extremely heavy.

I'm about to install my Nameless Axleback hopefully this week if it arrives and I'll let you know if I almost died while jacking up my rear on two stands.

FR-S Matt 02-19-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HillCountryGuru (Post 744635)
I have a friend who is gonna let me use his stands.. Is having the new Perrin pipes gonna restrict me from passing inspection?

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Absolutely not. If my 2002 Camaro SS can pass inspection with longtube headers and a resonator, yours can too. They don't sniffer test where we live like they do in DF/W. Even if they did, if your front pipe was catted with a catless header, you would still pass.

Vukodlac 02-19-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741 (Post 744646)
Do gaskets come with ordered parts? Or do I need to get them myself?

Perrin supplies factory gaskets. So im told.

Ranatsu 02-19-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 744648)
Absolutely not. If my 2002 Camaro SS can pass inspection with longtube headers and a resonator, yours can too. They don't sniffer test where we live like they do in DF/W. Even if they did, if your front pipe was catted with a catless header, you would still pass.

Well.. they are supposed to do a visual inspection for cats.. If they don't see them they are supposed to not pass you. Obviously some places don't do this, but I have run into more than one that does.

I typically just find a friend at a dealership to get me a sticker, and I pay him for his time and the sticker.

husker741 02-19-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vukodlac (Post 744672)
Perrin supplies factory gaskets. So im told.

Cool, thanks.

Vukodlac 02-19-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741 (Post 744686)
Cool, thanks.

Np, they are fragile. And they run about 15 at the dealer, and they dont stock em. Just an fyi heh.

No one does.

bigjake 02-19-2013 04:35 PM

harbour frieght is your friend buddy, i put my perrin on in 15 minutes, that includes jacking it up, and aligning the hangers. its almost too easy .

FR-S Matt 02-19-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranatsu (Post 744684)
Well.. they are supposed to do a visual inspection for cats.. If they don't see them they are supposed to not pass you. Obviously some places don't do this, but I have run into more than one that does.

I typically just find a friend at a dealership to get me a sticker, and I pay him for his time and the sticker.

This is also why I'm keeping my front pipe catted, plus it sounds like total crap without at least 1 cat. Yes, they are supposed to do a visual check, but last I looked, they don't in the Austin surrounding areas. Back where I lived in Dallas/Ft. Worth I had to cap my cut-out when I owned a '97 Firebird Formula because they always looked to make sure it was capped.

HillCountryGuru 02-19-2013 07:24 PM

Got my inspection before putting it on. So I won't have to care for a year haha. Will post difficulty and results as a intermediate putting it on myself.

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jflogerzi 02-19-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 744166)
I bought 4 nice jackstands 13.99 for two on sale at Harbor Freight and a 2.5 ton low profile jack from there as well for 79.99 with 20% off of that. They work nicely and have the pinch on the tops to match the pinch welds.

Did the same, but I got 3 ton jacks and the low profile 2 ton lift from Harbor freight. Think of it as an investment and learning experience.

FR-S Matt 02-19-2013 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 745457)
Did the same, but I got 3 ton jacks and the low profile 2 ton lift from Harbor freight. Think of it as an investment and learning experience.

Yeah, I got the 3 ton jacks too. When I saw the ad that they were only 13.99 a pair, I jumped on it and bought all 4. Very hard to pass up.


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