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1strwdcar 02-17-2013 04:09 PM

found hole in the body uhhh
 
:barf: So i was sound deading with dynamat in the rear interior panel next the the rear passenger seat. After removing the interior panel and the speaker i noticed in 3 areas i could see the floor of my garage. pics :eyebulge: the holes are where the body panel adhere/ welded to floor panel

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps500d26ab.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps471d314d.jpg




http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps36e4f8d7.jpg

road dirt from bottom of panel.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...psa6261fed.jpg







http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...psa8b8127e.jpg



the white dot you see is my shop light led beneath car aimed directly at pinch weld directly below car
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps85cfd226.jpg



evidence water has been in the vehicle
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps464d8d94.jpg

plastic cilps holding rear passenger wheel well lineer also have salt water in them
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps47fa527e.jpg

arrow pointing to said hole
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps6e1a976d.jpg

Hanakuso 02-17-2013 04:12 PM

I'm guessing youre missing the rubber caps. I noticed a lot in that area.

1strwdcar 02-17-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 740515)
I'm guessing youre missing the rubber caps. I noticed a lot in that area.


which rubber caps lol

Hanakuso 02-17-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1strwdcar (Post 740524)
which rubber caps lol

Could you take a picture from the bottom of the car? I have my car up on jack stands right now so I can look at mine as well

1strwdcar 02-17-2013 04:25 PM

one sec

MannyO 02-17-2013 04:30 PM

These are the plugs...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57735149/BRZ/Plugs.jpg

...and this is where they go. Holes should be about a foot forward from the edge of the rear wheel well.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57735149/BRZ/IMG_2312.JPG

1strwdcar 02-17-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 740537)
Could you take a picture from the bottom of the car? I have my car up on jack stands right now so I can look at mine as well


updated and found more holes and lack of body sealant:brokenheart: :paddle::barf: :confused0068::(:(:(:(:(:(:cry:

1strwdcar 02-17-2013 04:44 PM

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps0f4ec81a.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps1147b914.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...ps040d0272.jpg

1strwdcar 02-17-2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannyO (Post 740552)
These are the plugs...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57735149/BRZ/Plugs.jpg

...and this is where they go. Holes should be about a foot forward from the edge of the rear wheel well.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57735149/BRZ/IMG_2312.JPG

i have different holes and gaps im concerned with also i can see where you could have the same problem look at the gap between the pinch welds i bet you could stick something up that hole

MannyO 02-17-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1strwdcar (Post 740580)
i have different holes and gaps im concerned with also i can see where you could have the same problem look at the gap between the pinch welds i bet you could stick something up that hole

O_O You've got me all paranoid now haha

1strwdcar 02-17-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannyO (Post 740608)
O_O You've got me all paranoid now haha

It appears to insufficient or total lack there of, body sealant and rust proofing

LeeMaster 02-17-2013 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1strwdcar (Post 740573)
updated and found more holes and lack of body sealant:brokenheart: :paddle::barf: :confused0068::(:(:(:(:(:(:cry:

What does Subaru expect? Rust the entire body early or what? I just dont get it.... Shame on you Subaru! :slap:

1strwdcar 02-17-2013 06:27 PM

Good thing i got the extended warranty ill prolly fix it myself. Good thing is 3m body sealant is white. Ill prolly go over with lizard skin after its cured

Tt3Sheppard 02-17-2013 06:48 PM

Ummm...potential long term damage?

Gords_zenith 02-17-2013 08:00 PM

Interesting......good catch. Looks like a good oil based undercoat will be required after all, even though I'm not driving it in the winter.

Ben_G 02-17-2013 08:31 PM

Bleh....I wonder if this is endemic to all units, or random?

supramkivtt2jz 02-17-2013 08:41 PM

Ive seen quite a few threads regarding missing plugs. Ive searched relentlessly for all of them, but I cannot seem to find any more information. Can anyone point out all the plugs that should have been installed in the cars so that I can check? The last thing I want over the next 5+ years of ownership is rust forming

BRZnut 02-17-2013 08:59 PM

This seems different from the plug issue. Is this a welding defect or just lack of undercoating, or both?!?!

ahausheer 02-17-2013 09:10 PM

In terms of rust - I thought all modern cars were fully dipped in some sort of sealant. You can find videos online on entire chassis on assembly lines being submerged in what I think is sealant.

Can anyone second the OP's finding on a different car?

LeeMaster 02-17-2013 09:31 PM

I seen the hole on mine too. Time to call up Subaru and make them aware of this. Help the cause....

https://www.subaru.com/shopping-tools/contact-us.html

Grip Ronin 02-17-2013 09:36 PM

ahh now i gotta check mine. its been snowing everywere here

1strwdcar 02-17-2013 10:14 PM

Yeah i got mass salt water debris inside that panel :( on the plus side added an Infinity 6.5 in the door as well as dynamat extreme the doors entire floor and rear qtr cavity. Its night and day!

1strwdcar 02-17-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard (Post 740712)
Ummm...potential long term damage?

Water sloshing around in cabin. Heavy condensation. And rust ahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wth

supramkivtt2jz 02-17-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahausheer (Post 740915)
In terms of rust - I thought all modern cars were fully dipped in some sort of sealant. You can find videos online on entire chassis on assembly lines being submerged in what I think is sealant.

Can anyone second the OP's finding on a different car?

I will rip mine apart tomorrow when it's warmer out. Im getting a "feels like" temp of 26 deg F in fucking alabama right now. No bueno.

cf6mech 02-17-2013 11:03 PM

Thats not good, if I was up north like I use to be and driving this car in winter I would be pissed,....salt will eat this car alive in those areas.

philstar 02-17-2013 11:27 PM

definitely in for updates!

norsamerican 02-17-2013 11:32 PM

interesting

Zgrinch 02-17-2013 11:39 PM

Subscribed

DaJo 02-18-2013 12:16 AM

Sealant will fix this temporarily!... Better than nothing I suppose.

1strwdcar 02-18-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaJo (Post 741308)
Sealant will fix this temporarily!... Better than nothing I suppose.

Not the 3m body sealant i speak of lasts lifetime of vehicle. I have 8 years in. Body shop 2 of which as an asst manager

Tt3Sheppard 02-18-2013 08:18 AM

Going to have to wait till warmer weather as well. 18 degrees at the moment. :|

Subforever 02-18-2013 06:20 PM

Thats crazy! Come on Subaru ! Is it that hard to make a watertight chassis ? sealing every gap WTH
I cant wait to get back behind the wheel of my brz in spring but this kill the excitement... i think its a major problem ! Taking everything apart from a new car to hunt holes not sealed at factory hummm nooooo!!

i restored rust bucket car and oh god u dont want water and salt in there.

Toyota and Subaru need to be aware of this asap :cry:

BoxeRZ 02-18-2013 06:43 PM

Recently noticed small gatherings of salt under the spare tire and corners under jack and tools. Thought I was going crazy and must have been something I put in there, but now I'm going crazy thinking this actually got in there from driving. Thank you for your diligence.

supramkivtt2jz 02-18-2013 08:09 PM

Well, I confirmed I have dust accumulation in the same pocket and the same holes that are not sealed. My shop light had shown through as well. However I am proud to say I have all the underbody plugs

Marrk 02-18-2013 08:27 PM

The build quality of these cars is beginning to remind me of Lotus. Lotus from the 1960s, that is. :D

Wes 02-18-2013 08:50 PM

Wow thats unacceptable. I'm glad I don't live in areas where there is a lot of salt, but even then a car shouldn't be like this. This is a nice car and I love it, but build quality is shit. Scuffs easily, scratches easily, and now holes underneath where rust can build up..

Laika 02-18-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk (Post 742897)
The build quality of these cars is beginning to remind me of Lotus. Lotus from the 1960s, that is. :D


:lol: Or lancia's of yesteryear?

(ladies and) gentleman, I bring you the future of your 86....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2616/...790efd2e_o.jpg


aaaand subscribed.

Zgrinch 02-18-2013 09:13 PM

If this is consistant ....there better be a TSB to fix this *hit

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6182695680/h8C9B251A/

ravenblackfrs 02-18-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laika (Post 742990)
:lol: Or lancia's of yesteryear?

(ladies and) gentleman, I bring you the future of your 86....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2616/...790efd2e_o.jpg


aaaand subscribed.


While ur bullshitting... my dad had a 84 corolla that looked like this on the inside!!! LOL... looks like I will be checking mine as well.

What is this 3m body sealant you speak of?

Laika 02-18-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenblackfrs (Post 743001)
While ur bullshitting... my dad had a 84 corolla that looked like this on the inside!!! LOL... looks like I will be checking mine as well.


My picture was of a Lancia beta, if I remember correctly, Lancia just about went under (or did?) when they had to buy back all the rusty pile's of Lancia Beta from angry customers.

I hear ya on the corolla thing though, it wasn't too long ago when (in the US) Japanese cars weren't known for much else than having low build quality. I hope this car doesn't bring that back...

I'm so prepared for a press release from Subaru/Toyota with some fluff about how the holes improve aerodynamics :slap:


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