2014 WRX benefit the 86?
 

Was thinking with the 2014 WRX having the same engine as our cars, would it be smart to wait till its dropped, before rushing to buy all these aftermarket parts? I imagine a lot of the +260hp WRX internals will retrofit the 86?
Not a car expert, but seems logical.

its gonna have direct injection as well? if this is so cobb will be on it for tuning and even more support from other companies. id wait

Is it even going to be out as a 2014 model? I think we might see it as a 2015 actually but in early 2014 calender year.

Can you explain what you are trying to say? From what I gather its a big NO.

I think, what he trying to say is, can he swap '14 wrx turbo motor into the 86?

Answer to that question is no, like you said. :)

If that is the question, why would you want to? There are plenty of turbo/sc options out that are holding up just fine on the stock motor thus far. And they cost less than an brand new engine swap with small factory turbo.

It seems like for most peoples' goals, the stock internals are just fine. (so far)

I'm curious to see what the limits of the stock internals are.


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because small companies with little testing providing kits that hold up fine are not as good as giant companies providing from the ground up engineering and a warranty

no warranty with an engine swap though. plus just being a big company doesn't mean anything necessarily, just ask people that got an 08 STi. Going to a good tuner means a lot.

btw, I am not going turbo just think there is a better option then engine swaps.

if you guy a new engine from subaru, you will get a warranty. im not saying its the way to go or the most cost effective. im just saying that there is definitely reason to have more faith in oem components over aftermarket. that bad tune on the sti was in the name of reliability. no oem is going to want to take a tune to the components limits. thats why an aftermarket can exist and why that same aftermarket will void oem warranties. besides, a tune and a turbo kit are two very different things

He stated he's not a car expert, so we have simply answer he's question.

Google & you can find a lot of NA engine turn into turbo w stock internal... BUT that doesn't mean everyone knows that. WRX engine is meant for boosting vs FRS engine isn't.

& I'm guessing here, he "assumed" they'll use both same engine (which btw isn't), so why can't we use WRX engine to "safely" boost it.

Just wait out the warranty on your FRS. By that time it will be clear which turbos give the best reliability and performance, then you can do whatever you want without the guilt of voiding the warranty.

i am still not sure what i want to do about my 100,000 mile warranty... its going to be a long wait for turbo if i do decide to wait it out

You do know the Crawford car uses a factory turbo. And Factory turbos can easily make 300+WHP it's even proven to make 400WHP with supporting mods on a ej25 with AWD.

Yes. I came from a STi. I know the engines with OEM turbos can be good. I'm just thinking cost factor. Wouldn't aftermarket: internals be more beneficial than swapping OEM (assuming its not some beast motor like a2jz)?

Time will tell, but my thought was basically if the stock internals can hold up to the figures so far, then why swap engines. If you want more power than that, then why not just go straight to strong aftermarket pieces as pistons/rods are not very far off.

I didn't read the part where the guys isn't a car expert so my original post wasn't very helpful unfortunately. I also am not attacking OEM Subaru motors/turbos in any way. With supporting mods and on e85, meth, etc they can make huge numbers with great response. I could be off base, but my quick trainng would leave me to believe it is not cost effective to swap a motor into a twin just to go FI. That is all

as a few of you already said, i doubt subaru will use this engine in any other car. the d4s injection system and dual vvti are both toyota technology.

just give it some time, and soon enough there should be plenty of reliable mods for our engine wether its turbo, sc, or n/a

Here is the link to the Car & Driver article. It will not have Toyota's injection system.

Car & Driver 2014 Subaru WRX

Not it "will" not... but it "does" not. It's same engine as current turbo leggy

I though subie was delveopling their own injection system now that they have seen how to do it rght in a boxer engine from toyota.

I have one too. I'm not 100% certain I want to boost it, but maybe 80% certain. For now, I plan on just waiting a year or two and go over my options, and enjoy the car for now as it is stock!

I believe that the extended warranty is pro-rated, so you should be able to cancel after you make your decision and cash in on the rest. Call your financial guy to make sure, though.

You can always get your warranty cashed back. Also who says you can't use a VF22,39,48, or 52 on a build? they are good turbo's. You can pick up a VF48 out of a 2011-2012 STi for 600 bucks with under 7k miles on it. Just saying! I would deff build the engine. But even crawford pop'd their built engine last week.

You can also run 22 pounds of boost easy on a VF48. Or even 11 pounds? Very responsive turbo.

Doesn't the new Forester have this motor as well?
As does the new/updated Legacy.

It has Subaru's own DI system, not Toyota's D4S.

No idea if/when it coming to the STI or if/when it gets a power bump for the new STI. Doesn't it make around 270hp?