Spare tire delete?
 

Any one considering deleting their spare tire and jack and carrying a can of
inflator? In Australia the 86 is delivered without a spare tire , I believe.

How much weight would this save?

I'd much rather have an actual spare than a can of fix-a-flat. Besides, the 86 needs the extra weight in the back anyway :bellyroll:

I drove without my spare for days in my jetta and ill prob pull this one out too. Prolly save you like 35 pds. I dont drive on long enough trips to need it anyways.

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IMO it isn't worth the weight savings, if you ever blow out a side wall (tire inflator won't help at that point, and you would end up spending money on a tow).

i have a couple of S2K friends who ditched the spare tire for room in their trunk to carry shit. They have AAA road side assistance anyway

Count me in the "not enough weight to be worth it" category. Besides, the car is already biased nose heavy, why make it even more so?

In the time it takes AAA to show up, I'll already be on my way again.

I gotta ask! Who's stupid enough to take a "recovery tool" out of a road car? What? You can't get to work on time Speed Racer?

i only empty my trunk on track days.

imo, on daily driving you wont even noticed the difference

But if you remove the carpet mats you'lll notice the difference in weight savings ;)

I used a can of that stuff once. All I did was piss of the tire guy who had to clean off all the sticky crap from the rim. Didn't even work, had to get it towed. (Mini coopers don't come with spares)

NC Miatas do not come with spares either. I bought one to put in my trunk for that very reason.

But they have a different weight ratio, I think the FRS is light in the rear, removing the spare wouldn't help handling.

I removed the spare tire from my Civic Si because in those cars you want the rear end to be extremely light. I'm not sure if I want to do that in the FR-S though, if anything I'd want to remove weight from the front end.

Didn't have a spare with my Mini Cooper S and never felt comfortable about not having one. Also ad Stoopid run flats.

MINIs come with run flats.

My vette had run-flats, and a can of inflator. I also carried a plug/patch kit, and had roadside assistance just in case. I will be keeping my spare in the FR-S, just cause it's nice to have.

Hence why I posted and had the goo in a can
Most S drivers change the tires for more responsive and lighter tires, myself included.
:thumbsup:

For local driving (within 60-90 miles of home) I'll often leave the spare tires at home for my Mini and BRZ, sometimes all summer. Spare doesn't fit in the trunk of my Miata anymore because of the coilovers I have on it. Had a flat on my Miata a few years ago on the way to work (bent the wheel) my wife brought a spare wheel/tire (full size) floor jack, and cordless impact out to me, and I was on my way a few minutes later. I also have AAA+ which is good for 100 miles of towing. I've had three flat tires in 27 years and over half a million miles of driving. If flats were a more common occurence for me, I'd consider carrying a spare all the time.

I don't like not having a spare, I was happy to see my FR-S came with a spare. I like having options and like to be self reliant until I have to. Friend with M Coupe is trying to find jack and a spare to carry even though it comes with a pretty honking 12v compressor.

I do take it out for track/AutoX.

I might just take it out all together. I drive on super busy roads and if I get a flat on the highway I'm gonna call a tow truck. I'm NOT using the widow maker to hoist my car in the air inches from speeding motorists.

I would think that the spare helps with how the rig would handle a severe rear-ending...

Yes. I'm doing exactly this - gonna replace the full-size spare which eats half of the trunk space, does not provide flat floor in the trunk and adds 15-20 kilo of weight (together with all the gears which are supposed to be used in wheel changing) without providing anything usefull (for me) in exchange.

Had to order flat (no hole in the middle) OEM trunk liner for nearly $300 and a "trunk space organiser" or whatever it is called - the box which goes instead of the spare wheel - another $150. Would gladly swap my spare wheel with someone from Europe who got all above mentioned as standard but too complicated to arrange.

I doubt the spare tire it build into the crumple zones.

Maybe if it was like a Jeep Wrangler with spare mounted on the rear bumper:thumbup:

Normal Minis have a spare under the car. A chain lowers it.... My friend had a Mini, but the chain rusted through so she just put the spare in her trunk. I took the spare out of my Civic, but will probably keep the one in my BRZ.

Hers must have been a regular Mini Cooper (non-s) like I have. Those came standard with non-runflat tires and a spare tire. Cooper S models came standard with runflat tires and no spare. On the "S" models the battery is in the rear, where the spare tire is on the non-S model.

Everything from the rear bumper cover to the back seat is the crumple zone given the size of the "86". It would be interesting if there is documentation that indicates if the spare tire (and wheel) were factored into meeting Fed crash specs. Many cars manufacturers do this...

I would like to find one of these. Any chance you have a part number? Does anyone else know of this part? Is it OEM somewhere?

calling the act of simply removing a tire is kinda like calling a janitor a sanitation engineer

my body weight+spare tire probably weigh as much as some of u... so no:lol:

In North America, the tire is a space saver and sits flat on the floor. Spare and all the tools are less than 30 lbs. It's not worth it since many times when you use the fix-a-flat the tire is GONE and you must buy a new one (usually a pair to match wear). It also doesn't help in any sort of cut or any sidewall puncture. Or if you hit a pothole and bend a wheel. Europe <> USA.

The only place where 30 lbs might possibly even matter is a track or autox where you take all that crap out before your run anyway. Sitting for 2+ hours for a tow truck when you could be gone in less than 5 minutes is beyond retarded IMO. Especially if it happens after hours.

The non-NA spare tire setups that are full size are retarded and takes up half the trunk - I don't blame those guys for taking it out.

BMW and some other Euro cars don't come with spares - I take them off the "possibly buy" list because of it. The fix-a-flat is that useless.

I and the guy from the official dealer's spare part dept came to the conclusion that it should be SU00303129 but I will be 100% sure only upon receiving it, putting it in my trunk and admiring the fact that it fits :)

It is OEM in all Western European countries as far as I know.

The removal of the spare here in Australia (around august i think) was met with massive pissed-off-edness.
So many people whining and whinging how Toyota "ripped them off" and canceling their long awaited orders because Toyota "doesn't deserve their money", etc etc.
I was lucky enough to get mine with the full size spare, but I am glad in one way that they did what they did...by making heaps of people cancel, it gave other people waiting their orders, and at the same time, got rid of a bunch of dumbasses who obviously didn't really want their car, they just wanted on to the bandwagon so they had something to show at the fast and the furious 6 premier.

http://www.crawfordperformance.com/n...pepcom_030.jpg

http://www.motormavens.com/emAlbum/a...OM-Image_8.jpg

North America and others with skinnier but still tall enough spare tire.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64402414/AU-SpareTyre.jpg

http://subaru.com.au/sites/subaru.co...ic/sat9001.jpg

AUS and anyone else that crammed a full size which makes the trunk non-flat.

Thanks for that. Please post some pics when you get it.

Yeah - THAT would be annoying. I like the donut to get me home and then I can throw on a full-size spare at the house if I really need to. I can see why people outside the US would want to get rid of that. The trunk is a decent size as is, but that really hurts useability.

That's the thing - our spare isn't an undersized donut - it's the same diameter as the stock wheel, just skinnier. So it's technically full size just not wide which means you don't have to worry about wrecking your LSD. It's marked Temp for tread reasons but it's way better than those undersized donuts that you see on Civics that's actually smaller diameter.

Tire size is 135/80-R16 in case anyone is curious. I couldn't find it on google so I looked.

And the second part of the first question is ...
Why is Toyota picking on the Aussies??:cry:

Using the oem "cover" I made my own cover out of hard board and carpet with some good old contact adhesive

http://www.photostand.co.za/images/3...1kqdsiyu78.jpg

Got a 18 inch space saver from a wrecking yard
http://www.photostand.co.za/images/6...kcjkg5v7d7.jpg

A nice flush fit
http://www.photostand.co.za/images/e...smqvap2lv4.jpg

In fact it is not that clean at all. This how it looks OEM:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1336818804