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jflogerzi 02-11-2013 11:46 PM

Installed exhaust and Intake, pedal dead spot. How long does it last
 
How long does it take(in miles) for the ECU to relearn and adjust to the new airflow? I have also noticed at lower RPMS in 6th(2000ish) engine seems to be a bit more sluggish then normal. I only have about 50 total miles.

Blue86 02-12-2013 12:02 AM

what intake did you put on? if it's something more than a drop in filter you might wanna get some tuning done.

When I did my exhaust I reset the ECU and it drove like a dog for 50 or so miles till it worked out what was going on.

jflogerzi 02-12-2013 12:04 AM

aFe Intake and perrin catback. I plan to get the FA20Club Stage 2 ECU tune very very soon. ;)

tintumz22 02-12-2013 12:25 AM

around 50-100 miles on the dead pedal spot. :) but a tune will make you give you more gain out of those mods.:thumbsup:

FA20Club.com 02-12-2013 09:43 AM

:thumbsup:

brillo 02-12-2013 09:52 AM

Did you reset the ECU by pulling the battery cable?

jflogerzi 02-12-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brillo (Post 729393)
Did you reset the ECU by pulling the battery cable?

Yes. Pulled neg battery cable. Did my install. Reconnected cable. Let the car idle for 10 mins as suggested. Its getting better.

jflogerzi 02-14-2013 09:05 PM

Is it normal for the car to feel sluggish after an intake and exhaust install?For some reason down low car does not feel the same :( I probably now have 150 ish miles on the car now since the install. I am guessing the AFR is out of whack. The car does not have the same punch it used to when it was stock.

l0aded 02-14-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 735632)
Is it normal for the car to feel sluggish after an intake and exhaust install?For some reason down low car does not feel the same :( I probably now have 150 ish miles on the car now since the install. I am guessing the AFR is out of whack. The car does not have the same punch it used to when it was stock.

Can't speak for everyone but I only noticed slight improvements (Injen though). Maybe check everyone is on correctly? Specficially the intake.

jflogerzi 02-14-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by l0aded (Post 735676)
Can't speak for everyone but I only noticed slight improvements (Injen though). Maybe check everyone is on correctly? Specficially the intake.

It looks correct. I will look at it again later. Also car is not throwing CELs.

Frsexxxy 02-14-2013 10:10 PM

Will resetting the ecu void warrenty? And will installing ecutek void warrenty?

jflogerzi 02-14-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frsexxxy (Post 735750)
Will resetting the ecu void warranty? And will installing ecutek void warranty?

To reset the ECU you just pull the neg battery connection. That does not void the warranty. ECU tunes technically yes, but from what people have said, the dealer can not detect the tune. General tunes are safe if you get it from a respectable tuner. Please be clear, I don't advocate defrauding Toyota or Subaru.

LeeMaster 02-15-2013 12:25 AM

I had a dead spot on my Injen intake until I got it replaced with a better one. The first one I received had some seriously bad welds that somehow made their way inside the tube which to my own guess, disturbs the airflow. How does your tube look like from the inside, is it smooth or does it look like this?

http://imageshack.us/a/img818/8131/1043931.jpg

Wes 02-15-2013 12:33 AM

I have a Perrin exhaust as well and mine didn't feel sluggish, in fact it felt a little more responsive, so it's probably the intake since that seemed to be problems for some of the people installing them, car probably just needs to adapt or something.

jflogerzi 02-15-2013 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeMaster (Post 736005)
I had a dead spot on my Injen intake until I got it replaced with a better one. The first one I received had some seriously bad welds that somehow made their way inside the tube which to my own guess, disturbs the airflow. How does your tube look like from the inside, is it smooth or does it look like this?

http://imageshack.us/a/img818/8131/1043931.jpg

Mine is the aFe. Its not metal but a modeled like plastic. I will keep an eye on things.

LeeMaster 02-15-2013 01:39 AM

One more thing I like to add, I currently have an Injen intake and a Greddy Evo 3 exhaust. The last time I reset my ECU I did NOT get a dead spot, only the first time when I still had the stock exhaust /w Injen. Soooo.....I dont know what to explain out of this but just want to share something for you guys for what its worth.

Also, the last time I reset my ECU my mileage was around 4K vs 1.5k when I first experienced my last dead spot after an ECU reset.

xjohnx 02-15-2013 09:04 AM

sounds like you've got a bog problem and not a dead pedal problem.

get a tune or put the stock intake back on.

2forme 02-15-2013 09:32 AM

If you're on the stock flash it will take 50-100 miles for the ecu to adjust and remove the dead spot. Happened to mine whenever I reset the ecu.

jflogerzi 02-15-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 736438)
sounds like you've got a bog problem and not a dead pedal problem.

get a tune or put the stock intake back on.

getting the FA20CLUB Stage 2 tune today. :happy0180:

Asphaltfrs1 02-15-2013 03:06 PM

That's how my air raid felt when I first put it on. Now it feels great, I don't remember how long it took, but give it time and drive it.

norsamerican 02-15-2013 03:11 PM

back in the day i had a roomate who purchased a ebay cold air intake. when installing the cone filter he shoved the filter all the way onto the pipe so that the end of the pipe was mated to the very end of the filter..basically sealing off nearly all air becasue the piping was pushed up agains the rubber end of the filter. He then drove it and the car stalled a few times before he asked for my help then realized he had the filter shoved on the pipe to far.

jflogerzi 02-16-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 736438)
sounds like you've got a bog problem and not a dead pedal problem.

get a tune or put the stock intake back on.

This is a much better description. FACLUB20 Stage 2 tune purchased. Whats weird is the "bog" might be making the torque dip more pronounced. I will update the thread when I get my ECU flashed.

jflogerzi 02-16-2013 08:37 PM

After looking at the install of the intake, I can see where there might be a problem. Its not sealed completely. Only on the bottom side which is hard to see unless you are looking. Wait for the car to cool down before fix it. I will try to post a picture, its hard to see.

619_FRS 02-23-2013 06:08 PM

I've been having the same problem with my Injen intake. It bogs out when it goes into idle and its even stalled out 2 or 3 times. I wanna try reseting everything after reading some of the suggestions. Any word from anyone if that solved your issues?

jflogerzi 02-23-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 619_FRS (Post 753119)
I've been having the same problem with my Injen intake. It bogs out when it goes into idle and its even stalled out 2 or 3 times. I wanna try reseting everything after reading some of the suggestions. Any word from anyone if that solved your issues?

Its better. I think I still might have loss a bit of power. But I think this is due to me running rich on my AFR. Waiting to flash tune file sometime next week. So far no stalls or any idle issues, and no cels.


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