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dookie11 12-13-2011 10:14 PM
The Pedals...
 
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Hey guys,

I cant tell from the pictures, but are the pedals going to be stepped INTO the floor (like an arcade game), or are the things that they usually hang from (drawn in green) just not visible? Know what I mean?

Just wondering that's all.

TYIA!

MiguelAE86 12-13-2011 10:55 PM
I really hope the pedals are adjustable, although I doubt it, I'd like them closer together for heel-toe-ing. At least the gas pedal to the left. No?

Guff 12-13-2011 11:29 PM
I'm fairly sure they are like your picture, hanging from the top.

dookie11 12-14-2011 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Guff (Post 97766)
I'm fairly sure they are like your picture, hanging from the top.
So like a normal car then, right?

What's that circular thing beneath the gas pedal then?

Longhorn248 12-14-2011 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Guff (Post 97766)
I'm fairly sure they are like your picture, hanging from the top.
I hope mine come in neon green too!

Edit: haha just noticed your sig, nice!

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Originally Posted by dookie11
So like a normal car then, right?

What's that circular thing beneath the gas pedal then?
Probably just a stop that the pedal hits rather than digging into the carpet. Or I could be full of it since I'm just guessing and it could be something totally different.

old greg 12-14-2011 02:34 AM
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CSSM 12-14-2011 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 97833)
Probably just a stop that the pedal hits rather than digging into the carpet. Or I could be full of it since I'm just guessing and it could be something totally different.

That's it. My Lexus had that, where it clicks when the pedal is all the way floored, it pretty much told me when I was insane :bonk:

dookie11 12-14-2011 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by old greg (Post 97838)
Okay. Nevermind, I see the things that they hang from. Had to bend my laptop monitor allllllllllllll the way towards me for maximum clarity. 'Tis gonna be a normal car afterall thank goodness lol. That circle thing is hilarious though.

Snaps 12-14-2011 04:33 AM
That's the auto version. Black circle thing behind the accelrator will be the auto kick-down switch most likely. Basically when you push the accelerator down far enoug to press the button in, it will cause the transmission to shift down.

There are cases where just pushing the accelerator down (without pressing the switch) will cause the transmission to downshift, but this only happens depending on revs you're at, and other things like that. The difference with the kickdown switch is that as long as the engine will not go over it's rev limit, then it should downshift, provided you'll have some time in the lower gear before having to upshift again. This should be optimised by Toyota/Subaru before te car is released.

Homemade WRX 12-14-2011 08:51 AM
they look like Subaru pedals to me ;)

They're hanging.

dookie11 12-14-2011 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Homemade WRX (Post 97957)
they look like Subaru pedals to me ;)

They're hanging.
Yah, like I said, I had to bend my laptop screen to like a 30degree angle towards me in order to see that they're hanging lol. Did I highlight 'em correctly in this picture? Looks normal to me now hehehehe. Btw, that footrest on the left looks like crap. It's just a metal plate attached to the floor lol.

Kiwi 12-14-2011 12:44 PM
Personally I prefer a floor mounted pedal, but I can get used to this.

Altezza_86 12-14-2011 02:39 PM
i wonder if this one is drive by wire.

EDIT: I looked at the engine bay pics and its an actuated throttle body. so drive by wire. no cable. woot.

Dave-ROR 12-14-2011 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Altezza_86 (Post 98151)
i wonder if this one is drive by wire.

EDIT: I looked at the engine bay pics and its an actuated throttle body. so drive by wire. no cable. woot.
That's good? A lot of DBW systems still have lag and suck ass. Hopefully this one does not have any lag. I'd hope they removed it but then Honda failed to on the Civic Si. At least the NSX and S2000 had good DBW systems.

Swancoat 12-14-2011 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Snaps (Post 97873)
That's the auto version. Black circle thing behind the accelrator will be the auto kick-down switch most likely. Basically when you push the accelerator down far enoug to press the button in, it will cause the transmission to shift down.

There are cases where just pushing the accelerator down (without pressing the switch) will cause the transmission to downshift, but this only happens depending on revs you're at, and other things like that. The difference with the kickdown switch is that as long as the engine will not go over it's rev limit, then it should downshift, provided you'll have some time in the lower gear before having to upshift again. This should be optimised by Toyota/Subaru before te car is released.
Not that I'm doubting it's a kickdown switch, but since it's drive-by-wire, don't you think the computer could handle it on its own?

Even more, why would the auto need that since it has paddles to initiate the shifts yourself?

NESW20 12-14-2011 04:55 PM
there are a few places that have DBW modules that sharpen response. i want to say skunk2 makes one for civics, but don't quote me on that...

the picture of the manual trans car might be misleading. hard to judge pedal spacing with no real frame of reference. i'm sure they're just fine for heel-toeing.

old greg 12-14-2011 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Swancoat (Post 98202)
Not that I'm doubting it's a kickdown switch, but since it's drive-by-wire, don't you think the computer could handle it on its own?
It isn't a kickdown switch, it's just a throttle stop. Refer to the OP's picture for proof.

Dave-ROR 12-14-2011 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Swancoat (Post 98202)
Not that I'm doubting it's a kickdown switch, but since it's drive-by-wire, don't you think the computer could handle it on its own?

Even more, why would the auto need that since it has paddles to initiate the shifts yourself?
It's not a kickdown switch, that's EASILY handled by other methods.

It's likely just a pad.

Altezza_86 12-14-2011 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Swancoat (Post 98202)
Not that I'm doubting it's a kickdown switch, but since it's drive-by-wire, don't you think the computer could handle it on its own?

Even more, why would the auto need that since it has paddles to initiate the shifts yourself?
i think that black thing behind it is a "anti toyota recall switch." lol jk

on a serious note, on most toyotas, they use a "load device" like a throttle position sensor or the mass air flow meter to detect when to shift. and this was a response to snaps comment.

Snaps 12-14-2011 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Swancoat (Post 98202)
Not that I'm doubting it's a kickdown switch, but since it's drive-by-wire, don't you think the computer could handle it on its own?
I guess it would be to have a physical feel that you've pressed a switch with your foot/accelerator? I can easily tell the difference between pressing the switch down and just resting the accelerator on it in my Supra.

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Even more, why would the auto need that since it has paddles to initiate the shifts yourself?
IIRC the base model doesn't have paddle-shift?

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Originally Posted by old greg (Post 98227)
It isn't a kickdown switch, it's just a throttle stop. Refer to the OP's picture for proof.
Agreed, now I look at it again ;) The one in the manual (OP's pic) and the auto posted later are the same.

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Originally Posted by Altezza_86 (Post 98260)
on a serious note, on most toyotas, they use a "load device" like a throttle position sensor or the mass air flow meter to detect when to shift. and this was a response to snaps comment.
Supra had both this, and the kickdown switch. As I said in the first part of this post, I think the kickdown switch was a way to communicate to the driver that a switch had been pressed. This would be more noticeable to a person than just reaching a specific throttle point on the accelerator pedal travel.


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