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Jeffsu350 02-10-2013 07:35 PM

Top Gear Review of the GT86
 
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28663

ATL BRZ 02-10-2013 07:41 PM

Here's the actual clip:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4laY388IIV4"]Top Gear - Season 19 Episode 3 - YouTube[/ame]



‎01:31.3 Toyota GT86 (wet)
01:31.4 Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T
01:31.6 Honda NSX-R (wet)
01:31.8 BMW M3 E46
01:31.8 Nissan 350Z
01:31.8 Mazda RX-8

Not bad for Prius tires in the wet! :)

http://i.minus.com/ib1qxl2IiVBOJ.gif

jonnyozero3 02-10-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

01:31.3 Toyota GT86 (wet)
01:31.4 Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T
01:31.6 Honda NSX-R (wet)
01:31.8 BMW M3 E46
01:31.8 Nissan 350Z
01:31.8 Mazda RX-8
That's not bad company to have when you're running 200hp. Color me impressed.

Cameronghanson 02-10-2013 08:46 PM

"He who shall be last, shall be sideways and smiling."
New tag line for this car.

endos2000 02-10-2013 09:31 PM

I don't like it that he said "it doesn't look particularly interesting" but yea, smiles all around.

was385 02-10-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyozero3 (Post 726067)


That's not bad company to have when you're running 200hp. Color me impressed.

It's nice to take down the z.

DSOmegaX 02-10-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 726013)

Yeap that's the ridiculous smile I have on my face when I drive mine :happyanim:

Enemies 02-10-2013 10:54 PM

Kind of disappointed they didn't get to test it out on a dry track. And that they didn't mark it as a wet lap. But oh well!

SubaSteve 02-10-2013 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameronghanson (Post 726132)
"He who shall be last, shall be sideways and smiling."
New tag line for this car.

Someone make a sticker.

GH05T 02-11-2013 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 726013)
Here's the actual clip:

Top Gear - Season 19 Episode 3 (2013.02.10) Part 1 of 5 - YouTube


‎01:31.3 Toyota GT86 (wet)
01:31.4 Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T
01:31.6 Honda NSX-R (wet)
01:31.8 BMW M3 E46
01:31.8 Nissan 350Z
01:31.8 Mazda RX-8

Not bad for Prius tires in the wet! :)

http://i.minus.com/ib1qxl2IiVBOJ.gif

I had to make that GIF into my sig :D

ayau 02-11-2013 01:17 AM

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ericvanderwoodsen 02-11-2013 01:45 AM

Love how this just proves how much of a track car this is, taking down the z and m3 e46 which kill us in a straight line..

The359 02-11-2013 02:13 AM

I'm more impressed it beat the old NSX Type-R than the 370Z and M3.

speedracer38 02-11-2013 02:40 AM

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"He who shall be last, shall be sideways and smiling."

Sums up my night after watching the episode and taking my car out just because :)

fjcruiser 02-11-2013 02:59 AM

And it's just behind the M5 despite the wet weather.Well done Toyota GT86 and Subaru BRZ.

Doug&Julie 02-11-2013 08:19 AM

Video gone...? :(

ATL BRZ 02-11-2013 08:54 AM

Search for a YouTube mirror or download the HD torrent from FinalGear.com

was385 02-11-2013 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericvanderwoodsen (Post 726645)
Love how this just proves how much of a track car this is, taking down the z and m3 e46 which kill us in a straight line..

Especially if you take into account that the tires are seriously holding this thing back on the track. A new set of performance tires cuts off quite a bit of time on that track.

DantKR 02-11-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameronghanson (Post 726132)
"He who shall be last, shall be sideways and smiling."
New tag line for this car.

Anyone remember the best car of 2012 drag race? I think that is the tag-line exactly as he said it.

Bones36 02-11-2013 10:14 AM

Is what James May said true? That the brz to gt86 ratio will be 1:9

rapidcars 02-11-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bones36 (Post 726988)
Is what James May said true? That the brz to gt86 ratio will be 1:9

It would make sense. I've always wondered why production has been so limited so far.

Purdue FR-S 02-11-2013 10:32 AM

That NSX lap must've been through a downpour lol

jimbobrand 02-11-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffsu350 (Post 726007)
Did the FRS section dissepear for anyone else ...

You might be having the same issue I had when the BRZ section disappeared on me. Next to the FT86CLUB.com logo at the top of the page you'll see All, Scion FR-S, & Subaru BRZ. If Subaru BRZ is highlighted then you need to click on All and you'll get the FR-S section back.

WATCHMEHEAL 02-11-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purdue FR-S (Post 727022)
That NSX lap must've been through a downpour lol

hahaha

dsgerbc 02-11-2013 11:36 AM

I'm sure our 'prius' tires would've been considered quite sticky 10 years ago. Although I'm not sure when did they test e46 m3. NSX-R test was in the wet.

Marcoscrdo 02-11-2013 11:53 AM

I wanna watch this at work lol, anyway to add captions? :bonk:

strat61caster 02-11-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bones36 (Post 726988)
Is what James May said true? That the brz to gt86 ratio will be 1:9

That might be their U.K. sales distribution.

was385 02-11-2013 01:12 PM

Someone seriously needs to make "He who shall be last, shall be sideways and smiling" into a window or bumper decal.

Or a BRZ startup screen superimposed over Jeremy Clarkson's smile from the segment.

hunter3232792 02-11-2013 01:32 PM

loved this episode

akuhei 02-11-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by was385 (Post 727341)
Someone seriously needs to make "He who shall be last, shall be sideways and smiling" into a window decal.

I second this idea...definitely need one of these.

jpit 02-11-2013 02:38 PM

The 7.7 sec. 0-60 time was the slowest I've seen.

dsgerbc 02-11-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpit (Post 727585)
The 7.7 sec. 0-60 time was the slowest I've seen.

Probably because it's the 0-100kmh time.

Mitch 02-11-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 727664)
Probably because it's the 0-100kmh time.

Ah, and they probably had to shift to 3rd for that.

jpit 02-11-2013 03:42 PM

Jeremy Clarkson did say 0-60 mph.

DSOmegaX 02-11-2013 03:51 PM

For those that missed the video you can find it here: http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-...e3_2419350.htm

Citrus 02-11-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endos2000 (Post 726221)
I don't like it that he said "it doesn't look particularly interesting" but yea, smiles all around.

I can see why he said this. The trend for new cars styles now is very "sheet metal stretched tightly across the body of the car". What I mean by this is you tend to see a lot of sharp corners, very defined lines and curves. Think of a muscular person at very low body-fat-%. You see all the muscle fibers underneath the tight skin. The BRZ/GT86 is lacking in this department. It has that classic sports car look but lacks the sharp lines and defined curves that differentiate "new" cars from older generation styles. The car looks good and looks like a sports car but is messing the elements that make a car stand out and "interesting" to look at.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to personal preference.

Mitch 02-11-2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Citrus (Post 728148)
I can see why he said this. The trend for new cars styles now is very "sheet metal stretched tightly across the body of the car". What I mean by this is you tend to see a lot of sharp corners, very defined lines and curves. Think of a muscular person at very low body-fat-%. You see all the muscle fibers underneath the tight skin. The BRZ/GT86 is lacking in this department. It has that classic sports car look but lacks the sharp lines and defined curves that differentiate "new" cars from older generation styles. The car looks good and looks like a sports car but is messing the elements that make a car stand out and "interesting" to look at.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to personal preference.

Yeah, I would say it has very "safe" styling. It's a potpourri of tried and true classic sports car styling features. The whole point of the car wasn't to be groundbreaking on any one feature, but rather how effectively they were tied together. The thing about "interesting" cars is that they look great at first, but after about ten years it's hit or miss whether they'll still look fantastic or terrible. The e36 M3 and NSX still look fantastic. The e60 5 series and the first generation CTS haven't aged as gracefully even though their styling was brand new and "interesting" at the time. Still fantastic cars in their own rights, but they won't be remembered as much for their aesthetics.

strat61caster 02-11-2013 06:44 PM

The best thing I can say about the styling is that it's not offensive. It just blends in, it's no Mustang or Miata and will never be instantly recognizable, I confuse it for Nissan's Z's all the time, especially the headlights.

Citrus 02-12-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 728264)
Yeah, I would say it has very "safe" styling. It's a potpourri of tried and true classic sports car styling features. The whole point of the car wasn't to be groundbreaking on any one feature, but rather how effectively they were tied together. The thing about "interesting" cars is that they look great at first, but after about ten years it's hit or miss whether they'll still look fantastic or terrible. The e36 M3 and NSX still look fantastic. The e60 5 series and the first generation CTS haven't aged as gracefully even though their styling was brand new and "interesting" at the time. Still fantastic cars in their own rights, but they won't be remembered as much for their aesthetics.

I don't believe there is anything wrong with the styling of the car, but I do believe it could have used a bit more "defined features", but thats just my opinion. As you said the car will age very well because of its appearance. Then again, thats why cars do/should go under a complete refresh every 4-5 years. When thinking about Clarkson's statement, one, also has to understand that he spends a lot of time around performance cars that cost 100k+. If every car looked like an exotic, exotics wouldn't be so exotic :bellyroll:. If the BRZ had gone further with its design, lets say something like the Genesis coupe, it tends to look tacky. Its all about finding the right balance.

As a side note, am I the only one that thinks the STI concept has sharper lines on the sides, moving up the rear wheel arch and the rear bumper seems a lot less round. If so, they definitly should have gone with something like this (minus the massive rear wing). It has the perfect balance of an updated look and staying classy...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VQY3IHGgM1...rscoop04_1.jpg
http://roadnoise.tv/wp-content/galle...-brz-sti-5.png

Sport-Tech 02-12-2013 05:58 PM

Personally I prefer it showroom stock over the above, except for the wheels. The wheel arches look overcooked - especially at the rear. And quad pipes? That's writing a cheque this car can't cash.


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