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lazyluka 02-10-2013 06:40 PM

Top Gear GT86 Review by Clarkson (Season 19, Episode 3)
 
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4laY388IIV4"]Top Gear - Season 19 Episode 3 - YouTube[/ame]



If the video is disabled, here's a video download link, courtesy of Wolfkiller:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/406757/top_...64-fov.m4v.zip

Or watch online here: http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-...-3_2419363.htm


And here's how the GT86 stacks up against some competition:

01:31.2 BMW 760Li (wet)
01:31.3 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
01:31.3 Vauxhall VXR8 (wet)
01:31.3 Toyota GT86
01:31.4 Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T
01:31.6 Honda NSX-R (wet)
01:31.8 BMW M3 E46
01:31.8 BMW 535d
01:31.8 Nissan 350Z
01:31.8 Mazda RX-8
01:31.9 BMW 130i (E87)
01:32.1 Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG (wet)
01:32.2 Ford Focus RS Mk I0
01:32.2 Mazda 6 MPS

TIE Pilot 02-10-2013 07:08 PM

Results are in:

01:31.2BMW 760Li (wet)
01:31.3Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
01:31.3Vauxhall VXR8 (wet)
01:31.3Toyota GT86
01:31.4Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T
01:31.6Honda NSX-R (wet)
01:31.8BMW M3 E46
01:31.8BMW 535d
01:31.8Nissan 350Z
01:31.8Mazda RX-8
01:31.9BMW 130i (E87)
01:32.1Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG (wet)
01:32.2Ford Focus RS Mk I0
01:32.2Mazda 6 MPS


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LivingLegend 02-10-2013 07:23 PM

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That face...

Shagaliscious 02-10-2013 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_m (Post 725884)
Results are in:

01:31.2BMW 760Li (wet)
01:31.3Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
01:31.3Vauxhall VXR8 (wet)
01:31.8Toyota GT86
01:31.4Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T
01:31.6Honda NSX-R (wet)
01:31.8BMW M3 E46
01:31.8BMW 535d
01:31.8Nissan 350Z
01:31.8Mazda RX-8
01:31.9BMW 130i (E87)
01:32.1Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG (wet)
01:32.2Ford Focus RS Mk I0
01:32.2Mazda 6 MPS


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I would also add that it was slightly wet for the GT86.

Oh, and you have 1:31.8, it's 1:31.3.

Mickeyt86 02-10-2013 07:44 PM

Great review!

Bristecom 02-10-2013 07:48 PM

That's still a pretty good time, especially being on crappy tires in the wet.

But yeah, this was a good review. I was just hoping they'd do a more in depth comparison between the 86 and BRZ.

ExWhyZer0 02-10-2013 07:53 PM

Those magnificent British bastards lol

TIE Pilot 02-10-2013 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 725914)
I would also add that it was slightly wet for the GT86.

Oh, and you have 1:31.8, it's 1:31.3.

Wikipedia has it wrong. I copypasted blindly.


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FurY 02-10-2013 07:56 PM

I enjoyed the review, wish the track would've been dry for the lap though! Having not driven a BRZ/FR-S yet I think it's great how easy everyone, including Top Gear, says that it's so predictable and easy to slide without losing it. Clarkson proved it tonight :burnrubber:

TIE Pilot 02-10-2013 08:01 PM

Some say that is about time a superhero drove our car.... The stig.





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ATL BRZ 02-10-2013 08:02 PM

Not bad for Prius tires in the wet.

http://i.minus.com/ib1qxl2IiVBOJ.gif

SixSpeed 02-10-2013 08:22 PM

9:05, Guess I'll be sideways and smiling then!

FRiSson 02-10-2013 08:41 PM

Anyone know which previous episode of Top Gear featured the GT86?

ATL BRZ 02-10-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRiSson (Post 726014)
Anyone know which previous episode of Top Gear featured the GT86?

It was their recent "Worst Car In The World" special, not a contender for that title, but it was mixed in to the special for a review.

coyote 02-10-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 725931)
I was just hoping they'd do a more in depth comparison between the 86 and BRZ.

I'm not a great fan of Clarkson nor Top Gear, but I think he nailed the comparison.

Particularly in UK spec, the biggest difference between those two cars is the colour.

Bristecom 02-10-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyote (Post 726118)
I'm not a great fan of Clarkson nor Top Gear, but I think he nailed the comparison.

Particularly in UK spec, the biggest difference between those two cars is the colour.

Well I'm pretty sure there are slight differences in spring rates. I was curious to see if he would say, "The BRZ is a bit harder to drift" or something.

coyote 02-10-2013 09:54 PM

Yep, the spring rates are slightly different.

I still think he nailed the comparison as I drove both and preferred the Subaru spring rates, but still bought the Toyota.

Deslock 02-10-2013 10:56 PM

A year ago, I predicted 1:31-1:32:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deslock (Post 132547)
I expect this car to run a 1:31-1:32 when Top Gear tests it.

But I was accurate only because they didn't test on a dry track... 1:31.3 in the wet is way faster than I expected. With standing water in many of the corners, I'd expect it to be classified as either "moist" or "wet", which translates to a time deduction or 3 or 4 seconds according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gea...ime_deductions.

It's hard to say since those approximations vary by type of car, but ~1:28 seems possible in the dry. And for drivers that race competitively, it's already been shown that a tire upgrade will make a significant difference (personally, I like the stock tires for street use, but on the track I'd probably get slicks or Super Sports).

Anyway, a great review of a great car.

EDIT: I re-watched it and I'm wondering if that time was from another lap (when the track was a bit dryer). This car really shouldn't be faster than ~1:31 (maybe a little, but I don't see it dropping down to 1:28.x or 1:29.x). I wouldn't put it past Top Gear to show video from one lap while listing a time from another.

Laika 02-10-2013 10:57 PM

I gotta wait till tomorrow to watch the full episode but I watched the posted clip and gotta say, that was great! Looked like clarkson absolutely loved the car.

Seemed like The Stig did too... he was really putting that car through its paces during that lap. I'd be keen on seeing that lap redone in the dry with ultra high pro/max pro summer tires. Something that could be easily available as an OEM summer tire from a higher end sports car.

Wolfkiller 02-10-2013 11:59 PM

Here's a higher res version I'll keep in my dropbox for a little while.


I'll have to put up another link later today. This one got too much traffic.

Ok, i uploaded it here

http://www.filefactory.com/file/5cgp...64-fov_m4v_zip

FR-S/GT-86 02-11-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 725914)
I would also add that it was slightly wet for the GT86.

Oh, and you have 1:31.8, it's 1:31.3.

As Jeremy would say... it was mildly moist... :-)

Of course, the video is now taken down by the BBC, but I got to see it before it went down! Can't wait to see it on the big screen tonight.

:thumbsup:

OnkelC 02-11-2013 09:44 AM

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my favorite part :)

Deslock 02-11-2013 11:04 AM

Screen-caps from the Stig's sideways wet-lap:

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S...w/s1280/09.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...M/s1280/10.png

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Tt3Sheppard 02-11-2013 11:51 AM

I need power back so i can watch this!

DKPJester 02-11-2013 12:28 PM

Good Streaming Site
 
I posted this in a seperate thread, but this site always has the latest episodes posted and I've never seen them taken down (for those of you who would rather stream than dl)

http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-...-3_2419363.htm

DarkSunrise 02-11-2013 12:35 PM

Enjoyed watching the Stig fling the GT86 around the wet test track. Looks like a lot of fun!

Yaardy316 02-11-2013 12:37 PM

Full episode: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4laY388IIV4"]Top Gear - Season 19 Episode 3 - YouTube[/ame]

Tt3Sheppard 02-11-2013 12:42 PM

I'm a little surprised the gt86 is faster than the M3.

zenki_levin 02-11-2013 12:51 PM

^^Downloading the episode before they take it down.

dsgerbc 02-11-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnkelC (Post 726879)
Attachment 28019

my favorite part :)

Mine too. To bad one can't put it in a gif. Needs to have sound too.

TWMPerformance 02-11-2013 01:02 PM

That was a fantastic episode!

Renato
Team TWM Performance

zenki_levin 02-11-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenki_levin (Post 727175)
^^Downloading the episode before they take it down.

Done. Now i can watch it on my hd tv. :D

Colominicano 02-11-2013 01:10 PM

i wish i could pick this car up right now!

TIE Pilot 02-11-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S/GT-86 (Post 726845)
As Jeremy would say... it was mildly moist... :-)

Of course, the video is now taken down by the BBC, but I got to see it before it went down! Can't wait to see it on the big screen tonight.

:thumbsup:

Tonight isnt episode 2? .. May have to wait a little longer.


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itdansharpe 02-11-2013 02:04 PM

My favorite show talking about my favorite car, in my favorite color.

lazyluka 02-11-2013 02:57 PM

Wow didn't take long for youtube to remove the videos :(

Street Fire link still works :)

Saber_TRD 02-11-2013 02:59 PM

I started crying when The Stig was playing "Oh! Canada!" in the car. Damn you, Toyota! DAMN YOU! The car want's to be Canadian! Top Gear wants it to be Canadian! The "innie minnie miney moe" selection even picked Toyota! Sell the Toyota version in Canada! Please.... :cry: (Scion doesn't cut it!)

Pete 02-11-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard (Post 727145)
I'm a little surprised the gt86 is faster than the M3.

Me too, and on a wet track with the stock tires. I hated the stock tires in Houston, too much traffic to F around.

TOMIMOTO 02-11-2013 03:32 PM

Is BBC America behind by an episode? Episode 2 is on tonight.

I would much rather watch it on TV, but I may have to skip an episode for this one.

dsp4 02-11-2013 03:58 PM

I can't wait to rub that lap time in some of my Z-owning friend's faces. :D


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