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Someguyk 02-09-2013 11:14 PM

Invidia N1 or Borla Catback??
 
So I am stuck between these two catbacks. I've searched youtube for sound clips, but we all know how the videos/mics may not be the best. I plan on adding a UEL header to either exhaust in the future and keep at least one cat, that being a HFC. I like the sound and tone of both exhaust, but its had to get a grasp on how loud, deep, growl, volume, and drone that each exhaust has. I'm not expecting a huge increase in performance from either exhaust. Any input from those who own or heard these exhaust in person and can chime in would be grateful!! Thanks!!

stockysnail 02-10-2013 12:45 AM

Nameless Performance is my choice, although I just added a third instead of choosing between the two. I don't think the N1 sounded very loud when I've heard drive bys, but I've never been inside the car with an N1. It was more of a medium loudness.

wbradley 02-10-2013 12:52 AM

I'd suggest go with a catback whose muffler looks similar to stock in layout. Apparently the stock unit acts as a diffuser, so without it drag will increase. I went with Magnaflow.

Someguyk 02-10-2013 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 724694)
I'd suggest go with a catback whose muffler looks similar to stock in layout. Apparently the stock unit acts as a diffuser, so without it drag will increase. I went with Magnaflow.

I had read about that also. That's one reason why I was leaning towards the Borla, because they have a diffuser for their catback. How do you like your Magnaflow?

CrazyWookiee 02-10-2013 01:12 AM

I'm running the N1. Don't have any complaints about it. I like how it looks so different and has a strong presence on the vehicle. I feel like if you wanna go a bit "wild" the N1 for looks definitely sets it apart.

The sound is very deep and when you giv'r it gets quite loud. The drone is also something not everyone might be able to live with, but I found that I can have a conversation in it without much issues. But it definitely is a loud exhaust.

I haven't heard the Borla in person, but from the videos it appears to be the same loudness as the N1, so I think your best bet is to track down someone running them. It's hard to track down people right now, but it's going to have to be a sound you live with every time you get into the vehicle, so might be worth it.

Here's a video I made of the N1 on my vehicle.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTpyHqFI9fQ"]Invidia N1 Catback Scion FR-S/Toyota 86 - YouTube[/ame]

wbradley 02-10-2013 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Someguyk (Post 724706)
I had read about that also. That's one reason why I was leaning towards the Borla, because they have a diffuser for their catback. How do you like your Magnaflow?

It's great all around although I've driven with it installed a total 5 miles. Seems like a reputable make. Hoping to get it on the road for April 1.

Someguyk 02-10-2013 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyWookiee (Post 724720)
I'm running the N1. Don't have any complaints about it. I like how it looks so different and has a strong presence on the vehicle. I feel like if you wanna go a bit "wild" the N1 for looks definitely sets it apart.

The sound is very deep and when you giv'r it gets quite loud. The drone is also something not everyone might be able to live with, but I found that I can have a conversation in it without much issues. But it definitely is a loud exhaust.

I haven't heard the Borla in person, but from the videos it appears to be the same loudness as the N1, so I think your best bet is to track down someone running them. It's hard to track down people right now, but it's going to have to be a sound you live with every time you get into the vehicle, so might be worth it.

Here's a video I made of the N1 on my vehicle.
Invidia N1 Catback Scion FR-S/Toyota 86 - YouTube



Thanks for the video, I also saw this one on youtube. It's just so hard to really hear how loud and deep the exhaust sounds on video clips. It's gonna be hard to track down another FRS in my area. I own 1 of 2 FRS's in my city. lol :w00t: The other one is also %100 stock. I may pick up the N1..not sure yet. Gonna do some more research and also find out if a rear diffuser will fit with the N1. Thanks!

Someguyk 02-10-2013 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 724731)
It's great all around although I've driven with it installed a total 5 miles. Seems like a reputable make. Hoping to get it on the road for April 1.

Awesome. I'm just not sure if it's loud enough for me.

ft86me 02-10-2013 01:33 AM

m7 !!!

Cade01 02-10-2013 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Someguyk (Post 724739)
Awesome. I'm just not sure if it's loud enough for me.

If that's the case get a Nameless muffler delete.

Someguyk 02-10-2013 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cade01 (Post 724768)
If that's the case get a Nameless muffler delete.

I was thinking about that. But then it may be TOO loud. Guess I'm a little picky. :D

Cade01 02-10-2013 01:54 AM

Well, if you don't like the Nameless(my personal favorit and what I am currently waiting to ship with a catless front/overpipe) get the Borla and if it's not loud enough get a catless test pipe.

Someguyk 02-10-2013 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cade01 (Post 724776)
Well, if you don't like the Nameless(my personal favorit and what I am currently waiting to ship with a catless front/overpipe) get the Borla and if it's not loud enough get a catless test pipe.

I may just do that and add the Borla UEL header. Hopefully it will satisfy.

Cade01 02-10-2013 02:31 AM

With those two things and the headers it should be plenty loud, you may even want to keep the second cat.

Touge_ninja 02-10-2013 02:38 AM

I have the N1 and its a pretty good sysyem. Its loud at low to mid rpms, and quiet at high rpms. The drone is ok and you get used to it after a while. Plus it has a nice deep tone that is just sexy...

Minovsky 02-10-2013 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stockysnail (Post 724683)
Nameless Performance is my choice, although I just added a third instead of choosing between the two. I don't think the N1 sounded very loud when I've heard drive bys, but I've never been inside the car with an N1. It was more of a medium loudness.

ahhh im still trying to decide too! is yours non offset? Would you mind having some videos of your car? :)

tdoggy57 02-10-2013 04:50 AM

I have the Borla and love it. Its not very loud though, if thats what youre into

AlvinT@Borla 02-10-2013 04:59 AM

Our cat-back exhaust has a deeper, more aggressive note under acceleration and only slightly louder than stock while cruising without annoying cabin resonance or drone. Many of our customers are pleased with our cat-back exhaust. We've integrated our race-proven patented Multi-core technology in our cat-back (PN-140496) to tune our cat-back note without restrictive chambers or baffles.
http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/a...Multi-Core.jpg
Adding our UEL XR-1 Header will enhance the boxer engine note. This combination has been sound-tested (for you track guys) to comply 92dB(A) at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca. We'll have our XR-1 catless mid-pipe released in a week for those looking for a complete Borla exhaust covered by our limited Million-Mile-Warranty!

At Borla we know sound is subjective and not everyone can agree on the right sound. Later this month we'll have UEL & EL Header options offering a choice in sound and a catless Race Mid-Pipe for unrestrictive track-performance. These combined with our street-legal cat-back exhaust, and our unique exhaust diffuser offer the most comprehensive product integration designed to work together for the best performance, look, and sound for the FR-S/BRZ.

Thanks for your interest in Borla!

industrial 02-10-2013 09:41 AM

@AlvinT@Borla, do you guys have a MSRP set for the diffuser yet?

Skurj 02-10-2013 10:25 AM

Tossing between Borla and Perrin resonated myself....

Don't want loud, just louderr and the Borla from sound clips sounds nice... The mention of slightly lower clearance is the reason the Perrin is also in the running as it doesn't have the same issue. Both same price...


arg decisions..

Captain Insano 02-10-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Someguyk (Post 724706)
I had read about that also. That's one reason why I was leaning towards the Borla, because they have a diffuser for their catback. How do you like your Magnaflow?

The aftermarket support for this car is incredible. Get the exhaust you want based on sound/ performance. If you want a rear diffuser there will be plenty of options for that soon I would think.

stockysnail 02-10-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Honeydew (Post 724995)
ahhh im still trying to decide too! is yours non offset? Would you mind having some videos of your car? :)

I don't have a good video camera but there are a couple great links on here somewhere. Also I don't have my exhaust/downpipe yet but I got the offset. I heard one in person and got to drive it for a few minutes and it sounds nice. Not too loud, not too quiet.

AlvinT@Borla 02-10-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by industrial (Post 725128)
@AlvinT@Borla, do you guys have a MSRP set for the diffuser yet?

Yes here...
http://www.borla.com/products/2013_s...rt__77012.html
http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/a...-SDiffuser.jpg

frsdiy 09-08-2013 05:19 PM

I put my money down on the Borla Catback and I'm very pleased. Gets loudest as tach is passing 4000 rpms. Nice burble and pop. Looks great in the back. Tip blends with the rear better than most including the stock scion tip.
Especially noticed gains when doing 4000 rpm uphill drives.

Some 3000 to 7000 revs below.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0w_jvzE4ZQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0w_jvzE4ZQ[/ame]


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