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bdanisi 02-08-2013 04:06 PM

Squeaking windows
 
Is this for real? Just had my first service and it happens to be raining. I am stoked on getting my first service. I get on the freeway and open my windows a bit and then close them. Awful squeaking noise ensues. Repeated multiple times same sound on the roll up. I never have had this happen and there has been plenty of rain. Took it back and the dealer service manager literally said the felt on the windows sill is wet and that's that. Really? No fix? Just when it rains my windows scream at me if I use them? Obviously going to take my services elsewhere. Anyone have a fix for this? Or even heard of this??

fistpoint 02-08-2013 04:14 PM

Very common on this vehicle...search for the complaints using "windows" in the titles only.

NOHOME 02-08-2013 04:22 PM

The windows are not one of the success stories when it comes to design features on this car. My dealer sprayed some kind of magic ju-ju juice and chanted good thoughts to make it go away. Seems like this is Scions plan for the moment. So far, so good.

Anthonytpt 02-08-2013 04:50 PM

Did the magic ju-ju juice have a name? I'd like mine treated with the same.

Much thanks in advance.

bdanisi 02-08-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fistpoint (Post 722055)
Very common on this vehicle...search for the complaints using "windows" in the titles only.

SOB i guess ill shell out the 3 bux for tapatalk cant search on my phone

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 722073)
The windows are not one of the success stories when it comes to design features on this car. My dealer sprayed some kind of magic ju-ju juice and chanted good thoughts to make it go away. Seems like this is Scions plan for the moment. So far, so good.

i lold so hard. a name would be cool tho

CaptainSlow 02-08-2013 05:11 PM

It's common on every vehicle. It's glass against a rubber seal...it vibrates and causes a noise. If you don't like it, rub grease all over the seals so the glass won't stick lol

oblivion2k 02-08-2013 05:18 PM

I had a really wet week a few weeks ago and it the driver window started squeaking. Dried out and after about a week the squeak went away. Success!

Cade01 02-08-2013 07:05 PM

Look on Amazon or Google for Einszett "Gummi Pflege Stift" It's a rubber conditioner, works great. I used it on my window seals and no more noises.

FRiSson 02-08-2013 07:20 PM

Toyota replaced the driver door seal under warranty. I haven't had the binding problem since.

briang0901 02-08-2013 07:25 PM

Had Toyota replace both window seals on mine, noise came back the next day it rained...smh

CaptainSlow 02-08-2013 09:16 PM

Guys...it's a fundamental property of rubber. Nothing is broken. When the smooth wet glass moves across the wet rubber it grabs and releases very quickly, vibrating and causing a squeak. It's the same reason your shoes squeak when you walk on a wet floor...do you take the shoes back to the store?

jmaryt 02-08-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthonytpt (Post 722139)
Did the magic ju-ju juice have a name? I'd like mine treated with the same.

Much thanks in advance.

a guess would be a silicone based product.

jmaryt 02-08-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthonytpt (Post 722139)
Did the magic ju-ju juice have a name? I'd like mine treated with the same.

Much thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 722194)
It's common on every vehicle. It's glass against a rubber seal...it vibrates and causes a noise. If you don't like it, rub grease all over the seals so the glass won't stick lol

silicone grease comes to mind.

CaptainSlow 02-08-2013 10:32 PM

I'm sorry but I read the original post again...this attitude is unbelievable. You're acting like a fucking wheel fell off. Unbelievable.

NOHOME 02-09-2013 01:38 PM

sorry, no idea what product they sprayed on the window, but it did not make a lot of difference.

glorydays 02-09-2013 01:41 PM

I took mine in for service and they said that it was due to the seal being too tight. Havent heard it since

FRiSson 02-09-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 722914)
I'm sorry but I read the original post again...this attitude is unbelievable. You're acting like a fucking wheel fell off. Unbelievable.

Truth is CaptainApoplexy, it is not just glass against rubber, the whole rubber lip gets caught and turns under itself and stretches out - that will cause premature wear of the entire weatherstripping. Replacement fixed the problem.

CaptainSlow 02-09-2013 05:40 PM

That I can understand...but nothing like that was even hinted at. The OP complains about nothing more than the window squeaking, which has been something I've experienced with every car I've owned

bdanisi 02-09-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 724128)
That I can understand...but nothing like that was even hinted at. The OP complains about nothing more than the window squeaking, which has been something I've experienced with every car I've owned

Sry you've never owned a brand new car before. Sorry that when you have your car serviced you don't expect perfection. And I'm also sorry that you don't give a shit when even the slightest thing goes wrong in your car.

CaptainSlow 02-09-2013 06:32 PM

Oh fuck off...I've owned plenty of cars, new and used...I just don't understand blacklisting an entire dealership for something they have no control over. If the seal was bunching, curling, tearing etc I would completely understand. But you're talking about a sound that is going to happen anytime you have rubber and a hard surface...shoes on a floor, tires in a parking garage, etc.

Exhaust 02-09-2013 06:36 PM

Driving a corolla daily, i cant believe little shit like this bothers people. Should I make a thread talking about MY daily complaints?

CaptainSlow 02-09-2013 06:38 PM

And if this were a $100k+ car slight noises would be a little harder to accept, but it's a $25k Scion/Toyota...not a hand-built Bently. Little noises are to be expected, as anything mass produced is going to have slight fitment issues...plastics will creak, brake lines will vibrate, suspension will clunk now and then. Take it for what it is, man...the car is great overall, but nothing on it is ever going to be perfect...it's just not that kind of car

bdanisi 02-09-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 724222)
And if this were a $100k+ car slight noises would be a little harder to accept, but it's a $25k Scion/Toyota...not a hand-built Bently. Little noises are to be expected, as anything mass produced is going to have slight fitment issues...plastics will creak, brake lines will vibrate, suspension will clunk now and then. Take it for what it is, man...the car is great overall, but nothing on it is ever going to be perfect...it's just not that kind of car

Very true. Just pissed me off that no one at the service center had an explanation besides basically go fuck yourself.

CaptainSlow 02-09-2013 07:01 PM

That's because there is little they can do, outside of greasing up your windows (which you would have complained about) or bending the laws of physics

Porsche 02-09-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 724222)
the car is great overall, but nothing on it is ever going to be perfect...it's just not that kind of car

I would be surprised to learn that there ARE perfect cars.

High-end Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Porsche? Ferrari, maybe?

Not a chance! :lol:

I understand the OP's annoyance, but deleting a dealership for this comparatively minor issue will have one eliminating every local dealer within reasonable distance. Persist and one will quickly begin working one's way clean across the USA! ;)

Mine squeaks from time to time. It's just the way it is. I just wish the seatbelt didn't grind on the side of my neck. Oh well...

I love our BRZ.

J MaM 86 02-10-2013 12:19 AM

We had this issue with Nissan Titans at my dealership. What I've seen other technicians do is spray the windows with A LOT of aerosol window cleaner (Castle, Invisibile Glass, or anything else). After spraying it they would immediately roll the windows up and down. The problem is that a dirty window will start sticking and rubbing against the seals.

It works but I've always been a little skepticle because it seems like a temporary fix.

FR-S/GT-86 02-10-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bdanisi (Post 722039)
Is this for real? Just had my first service and it happens to be raining. I am stoked on getting my first service. I get on the freeway and open my windows a bit and then close them. Awful squeaking noise ensues. Repeated multiple times same sound on the roll up. I never have had this happen and there has been plenty of rain. Took it back and the dealer service manager literally said the felt on the windows sill is wet and that's that. Really? No fix? Just when it rains my windows scream at me if I use them? Obviously going to take my services elsewhere. Anyone have a fix for this? Or even heard of this??

Rather than make ugly comments, how about something constructive for advice?

I would suggest that you clean the windows REALLY well, then apply RainX to the side windows. On the side windows it will last for YEARS and keeps them cleaner, and when wet the beading water just slides off. It's a great solution, and it's CHEAP. I've done it with all of my cars over the years... and trust me, I learned it after a few weeks of living in Seattle in the relentless rains. The driver-side window in my old Mercedes diesel sedan used to get "grabby" because of the different friction surfaces between clean and dirty areas on the glass. This solved it... it never happened again in just shy of 500K miles.

CaptainSlow 02-10-2013 09:45 AM

There is also a spray on the market...you can usually find it at shoe stores...it's marketed as a weather proof spray, but it's basically a silicone oil/spray. You might try picking up a can of that, and spraying on a few layers on the seal itself (where the glass contacts the glass)...roll the window down, spray a couple coats and let it dry. It might help, but I'm not sure. Just something I remembered this morning

NOHOME 02-10-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 724222)
... but nothing on it is ever going to be perfect...it's just not that kind of car


As you are about to find in the near future.

You do seem to spend a lot of effort defending a car you don't even own.

As good as this car is from a driving point of view, it still needs more development. The sad irony in my mind, is that because it IS such a great car in one area, I expect the same in the rest of the car.The emotional swing from loving the car to hating both it and the company/dealer gets tiring.

Dropped in to get the second new tailight ordered yesterday, and pointed out that the one they already replace is on the way out. What pissed me off is that the service manger claims he has never heard of this issue. Asked if I did not mind waiting on replacing the passeger one for the second time; would prefer that it actually have some water pooling rather than just condensation inside. So essentially, my time is worth nothing to Scion.

CaptainSlow 02-10-2013 10:54 AM

I'm not defending the FRS specifically, I'm defending common sense. Issues like CELs, poorly sealed taillights, jumpy/low idle, bunching/tearing window seals, etc are legitimate concerns that SHOULD be taken care of, as they are issues with quality control or design. Now, i dont believe that it shows negligence on the manufacturers side, because most cars (especially brand new platforms) are going to have some post-production hiccups. Squeaking windows, however, are going to be normal on any car...and as I said previously, blacklisting a dealer for not being able to solve an issue that is in no way related to the design of the car or QC at the factory just doesn't make any sense.


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