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mines13 02-08-2013 01:21 PM

Eibach R2's installed... Buttonwillow this weekend.
 
As mentioned, Here they are. I can not say much about them as I have only had them on for a day, but I am looking forward to dialing them in this weekend. I added the needle bearing thrust plates to kill and chance of coil bind, but that is over kill as they include nylon spring washers top and bottom which do the same thing. I also went to custom spring rates, 400lb front and 400lb rear. Also have the Mach V Awesomes installed with 255/40-17 Federal 595 RS-R's. The wheels fit extremely well, I am very pleased. I think these should be the go to per dollar track wheel for this car. :w00t:

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(NOTE) The top hats are the first production version with the caster gain added, they had not been anodized or machined for markings/branding yet.
Will be swapping for production plates in a week or two.
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D1cker 02-08-2013 01:28 PM

Those eibachs look pretty sick! How much did they run you?

Dave-ROR 02-08-2013 01:32 PM

I still hate you bud :) thanks for testing them out :)

Hanakuso 02-08-2013 01:48 PM

Did you get a chance to put them side by side with the stock suspension?

Dave-ROR 02-08-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by D1cker (Post 721645)
Those eibachs look pretty sick! How much did they run you?

I doubt he'll tell you that...

I can say that retail is around ~3,200 but street price will be several hundred less. Talk to people like @JoeBoxer and Jeremy from @FT-86 SpeedFactory. There may be some other vendors also but I know both of them are selling them (pre-orders).

D1cker 02-08-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 721739)
I doubt he'll tell you that...

I can say that retail is around ~3,200 but street price will be several hundred less. Talk to people like @JoeBoxer and Jeremy from @FT-86 SpeedFactory. There may be some other vendors also but I know both of them are selling them (pre-orders).

Thanks! I already blew my wad on the SRC, but I was curious about these. Interesting choice on the spring rates as well.

ayau 02-08-2013 02:07 PM

Are the front strut bolt holes "stretched" out to provide additional camber?

OrbitalEllipses 02-08-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by D1cker (Post 721746)
I already blew my wad

D1cker blew his wad? Well that ain't no joke...

mines13 02-08-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 721748)
Are the front strut bolt holes "stretched" out to provide additional camber?

If memory serves they are not. I am also using the WRX crash bolts as well, and they net about the same gain with the R2's as they did with the stock struts.

ATL BRZ 02-08-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mines13 (Post 721628)

What are those and what do they do?

Dave-ROR 02-08-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D1cker (Post 721746)
Thanks! I already blew my wad on the SRC, but I was curious about these. Interesting choice on the spring rates as well.

Gotcha. Street price on these is between the SRCs with springs in the CSG GB and RCE Tarmac II's more or less.

Dave-ROR 02-08-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 721759)
What are those and what do they do?

Thrust plates to prevent spring bind, they include nylon versions that accomplish the same task.

swift996 02-11-2013 04:45 PM

Bump for an update

BadCompany235 02-11-2013 08:13 PM

very nice

ayau 02-12-2013 12:35 AM

Update plz. Also, any ETA on when these will be released yet?

Dave-ROR 02-12-2013 12:44 AM

Hopefully within a few weeks.

swift996 02-12-2013 09:16 AM

Also - where is the rear rebound adjustment? I'm guessing the reservoir knob controls compression.

Squishy 02-12-2013 09:58 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...03&postcount=2

I assume from the picture it is the knob on top of the coilover you are looking for.

Racecomp Engineering 02-12-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 729417)
Also - where is the rear rebound adjustment? I'm guessing the reservoir knob controls compression.

Rebound adjustment is generally found on the top for non-inverted dampers.

We're kind of excited about these coilovers. We had a little bit of experience with R2 coilovers for EVO X last year and at that point there were still a few kinks they had to work out (spring lengths) but the dampers themselves were pretty darn good. It looks like they've taken the time to get these right for BRZ.

- Andrew

SubieNate 02-12-2013 01:16 PM

Can any of the knowledgeable racing guys that came from other platforms chime in here on how Eibach's coilovers stack up vs the big names in the industry? Ohlins, KW, Motion Control, Koni, etc. They weren't an option on my last car so I've never really heard much about them. Before now I had always thought of their products as mid level "good" stuff but these seem pretty high end in their engineering.

Nathan

Jackson 02-12-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubieNate (Post 729838)
Can any of the knowledgeable racing guys that came from other platforms chime in here on how Eibach's coilovers stack up vs the big names in the industry? Ohlins, KW, Motion Control, Koni, etc. They weren't an option on my last car so I've never really heard much about them. Before now I had always thought of their products as mid level "good" stuff but these seem pretty high end in their engineering.

Nathan

Evasive Motorsports driver, Rob Walker, who drives their project FR-S has the Multi Pro R2 coilover on his personal S2000. He had been using the Evasive Spec Tein SRC for years before switching to the R2 kit and immediately dropped over half a second from his personal best lap time at Buttonwillow the first day testing these.

Here's a great review he did and he's still using the same kit and still breaking records with street tires.
http://www.maxrev.net/site/index.php...blog&Itemid=54

Hanakuso 02-12-2013 01:40 PM

After reading on a few other R2 models for other cars, it really does seem these usually come with around stock length bodies. I'm going to assume it's not really recommended to lower the car much at all. I hope this isn't the case with the FRS/BRZ

Jackson 02-12-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 729898)
After reading on a few other R2 models for other cars, it really does seem these usually come with around stock length bodies. I'm going to assume it's not really recommended to lower the car much at all. I hope this isn't the case with the FRS/BRZ

The shock bodies are definitely shortened for all models the R2s are made for. However, they typically have more droop travel than other kits with an adjustable spring perch and adjustable shock body length.

I have the Multi Pro R2 on my track Civic and it's pretty low with plently of suspension travel.

The FR-S and BRZ can most certainly be lowered enough without compromsing the suspension geometry.

CSG David 02-12-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson (Post 729866)
Evasive Motorsports driver, Rob Walker, who drives their project FR-S has the Multi Pro R2 coilover on his personal S2000. He had been using the Evasive Spec Tein SRC for years before switching to the R2 kit and immediately dropped over half a second from his personal best lap time at Buttonwillow the first day testing these.

Here's a great review he did and he's still using the same kit and still breaking records with street tires.
http://www.maxrev.net/site/index.php...blog&Itemid=54

Those R2s are custom valved and is hardly similar to the standard R2s. Similar to the Tein SRCs, the Evasive Spec SRC is completely different compared to the off the shelf model. The BRZ/FRS responds remarkably well to coilovers like it was designed for coilovers. The S2000 is a different platform. Rob also ran the HKS coilovers to a blazing time at Buttonwillow as well. Those coilovers are nearly half the price of the ones mentioned earlier, however, the ride quality is not as good as the ones above. :)

Jackson 02-12-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 730019)
Those R2s are custom valved and is hardly similar to the standard R2s. Similar to the Tein SRCs, the Evasive Spec SRC is completely different compared to the off the shelf model.

Without getting into specifics, the Evasive spec and off-the-shelf R2 kits for the S2000 are very similar in valving minus the springs. I merely used Rob's review as an example in reply to SubieNate's question. The FR-S/BRZ R2 coilovers have not been released to the public for sale.

Yes, Rob is fast and he ran great times with the HKS Hiper Max coilvoer...but he didn't break any of his own records with them. ;)

Hanakuso 02-12-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson (Post 729958)
The shock bodies are definitely shortened for all models the R2s are made for. However, they typically have more droop travel than other kits with an adjustable spring perch and adjustable shock body length.

I have the Multi Pro R2 on my track Civic and it's pretty low with plently of suspension travel.

The FR-S and BRZ can most certainly be lowered enough without compromsing the suspension geometry.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/8620...-multi-pro-r2/

I was just worried since with the S2K in the link above, Evasive said it's the same length as stock, well at least on the Evasive spec R2 but I believe they are identical to the normal R2. Only reason maxrev is so low is because he's using RCAs

I just feel going lower on a stock body length is like using lowering springs with stock shocks, but my knowledge is very limited. I'm not sure what Eibach is doing for the FRS but it would be nice to get some info.

Jackson 02-12-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 730106)
I just feel going lower on a stock body length is like using lowering springs with stock shocks, but my knowledge is very limited. I'm not sure what Eibach is doing for the FRS but it would be nice to get some info.

The lengths are definitely shorter than stock and the FR-S has limited travel in the rear from the factory. Yes, this was accounted for when designing the FR-S/BRZ coilovers and the car can be lowered a sufficient amount.

What specific info would you like to see?

Hanakuso 02-12-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson (Post 730134)
The lengths are definitely shorter than stock and the FR-S has limited travel in the rear from the factory. Yes, this was accounted for when designing the FR-S/BRZ coilovers and the car can be lowered a sufficient amount.

What specific info would you like to see?

That's good to know. I just wanted to make sure they were indeed shorter then stock. :thumbsup: That was my only concern about these coilovers. For me it's basically between these, Tein SRC, and RCE Tarmac. I just hope all 3 are released soon

CSG David 02-12-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson (Post 730087)
Without getting into specifics, the Evasive spec and off-the-shelf R2 kits for the S2000 are very similar in valving minus the springs. I merely used Rob's review as an example in reply to SubieNate's question. The FR-S/BRZ R2 coilovers have not been released to the public for sale.

Yes, Rob is fast and he ran great times with the HKS Hiper Max coilvoer...but he didn't break any of his own records with them. ;)

Haha that's true! I think it was with the HKS when he first broke into the 59s on street tire. Amazing at the time! :party0030:

Happy to see more well designed platforms coming out. :)

swift996 02-14-2013 09:15 AM

Are you able to retain/use the OEM front end links?

Jackson 02-14-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 730106)
http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/8620...-multi-pro-r2/

I was just worried since with the S2K in the link above, Evasive said it's the same length as stock, well at least on the Evasive spec R2 but I believe they are identical to the normal R2.

Ironically, a friend of ours brought his S2000 in yesterday with KW V3s so we can switch him to the R2 coilovers and the bodies are the same length between the KW and Eibach coilovers.

Jackson 02-14-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 734383)
Are you able to retain/use the OEM front end links?

Yes, OEM endlinks are used with the Eibach coilovers and there is enough clearance. We're looking into developing a highend spherical/adjustable replacement endlink as well.

Hanakuso 02-15-2013 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson (Post 734941)
Ironically, a friend of ours brought his S2000 in yesterday with KW V3s so we can switch him to the R2 coilovers and the bodies are the same length between the KW and Eibach coilovers.

Thanks for the info.

Btw, what is the warranty on them and do you have any rough estimate how much it cost to get them serviced?

robispec 02-15-2013 01:10 PM

in for info...;-)

Jackson 02-18-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 736969)
Thanks for the info.

Btw, what is the warranty on them and do you have any rough estimate how much it cost to get them serviced?

Sorry for the late reply. They have a 1 year warranty and rebuild costs are $175 per corner.

ayau 02-18-2013 05:44 PM

Just ordered a set of R2. Can't Wait!

Jackson 02-18-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 742552)
Just ordered a set of R2. Can't Wait!

Awesome! :party0030:

swift996 02-18-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 742552)
Just ordered a set of R2. Can't Wait!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson (Post 742781)
Awesome! :party0030:

Me too! I've been waiting what seems like forever, but then again I've only had the car a few months. I was happy with my KW V3s on my e46 M3 but I had to stick it out for these. They just seem to have so much more to offer. I can't wait.

ayau 02-18-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 742998)
Me too! I've been waiting what seems like forever, but then again I've only had the car a few months. I was happy with my KW V3s on my e46 M3 but I had to stick it out for these. They just seem to have so much more to offer. I can't wait.

I was torn between the KW Clubsport and the Eibach R2. There seems to be more transparency with Eibach and @Jackson, and that's why I chose the R2 over the Clubsport.

@Jackson, I read some reviews that each R2 damper gets dyno tested before they're shipped. Can you verify this?

swift996 02-18-2013 09:23 PM

^ Without testing I can't say for sure, but on paper you can't beat the design/capabilities for the money. These remind me of the JRZs I should have bought for my 911.


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